Request for advice

2019-05-10 Thread Sharon Dvir
Dear mentors,
I've opened an ITP bug for something I intend to package, so far so
good.
But, I was too optimistic of how much time I have to learn the
packaging process and perform it.

What is the considerate path forward? 
Should I close the bug or leave it until I'll have the time to fix all
remaining issues and upload?

Can I mark it 'slow-progress' somehow?
Do I send beer to someone and apologize?

Thanks.



Re: Request for advice

2019-05-10 Thread Miroslav Kravec
Hello Sharon,

ITP stands for "Intention to package". If you really intent to finish
packaging, then you can leave it open. Maybe, only the specific
package is way to complex, and requires special way of packaging.
Closing the bug you can double the effort, as multiple people could
end up working on same package in parallel, from scratch.

Also, you can collaborate with others:

* reply to the ITP bug, that help is welcome, and indicate slow progress,
* publish yours packaging effort in salsa git repository,
* ask specific questions here on mentors.

> But, I was too optimistic of how much time I have to learn the
> packaging process and perform it.

For quick start, you can copy debian folder from different package
using same programming language, build system, similar libraries,..
Then adjust it to yours package, and run lintian over the whole thing.

Kind regards,
Miroslav Kravec

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 1:51 PM Sharon Dvir  wrote:
>
> Dear mentors,
> I've opened an ITP bug for something I intend to package, so far so
> good.
> But, I was too optimistic of how much time I have to learn the
> packaging process and perform it.
>
> What is the considerate path forward?
> Should I close the bug or leave it until I'll have the time to fix all
> remaining issues and upload?
>
> Can I mark it 'slow-progress' somehow?
> Do I send beer to someone and apologize?
>
> Thanks.
>



Re: Presentation

2019-05-10 Thread Paul Sutton
Thanks for this,

Will make changes then upload the source to salsa.github.com. 


Paul



On 09/05/2019 17:36, Miroslav Kravec wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I took a quick look at the presentation. Looks to have nice potential
> in it. Few points below:
>
>> Debian GNU/Linux is a free (as in freedom) operating system (OS) for your 
>> computer. An operating system is the set of basic programs and utilities 
>> that make your computer run. [1]
> Less (text) is more (focused presentation). I would remove part
> describing what OS is, and based on audience, would explain the term
> only orally (plus hyperlink in PDF).
>
> I would also try to restructure "A brief definition" to get rid of
> repetition of "Debian" on each bullet point.
>
>> Internet Relay Chat
> In 2019 the most of the people know, what chat is (or quickly
> explained it orally). I would merge these three points to one "A real
> time Text based Communication system", and focus on IRC pros and
> differences.
>
>> :-
> For me, this looks a bit ugly.
>
>> On a basic level it is:-
> I would remove this sentence at all, and reword titles:
>
> * What is Internet Relay Chat,
> * What is ID with nickserv,
>
> Also, I would move registration after definition, and renamed title to:
>
> * Registration of ID with nickserv
>
> Generally, I would first focus on the message to be told, and to whom.
> Presentations are highly specific. And, people tend to get easily
> bored, when there's too much details they already know, or are not
> relevant to message. Also, people get bored, if they lose track on
> some point, because of missing information. In either case, they'll
> disconnect themselves, and will start day dreaming, or anti-social
> ones will start disturbing others/speaker.
>
> Kind regards,
> Miroslav Kravec
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 5:24 PM Paul Sutton  wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Having worked on a presentation to promote Debian generally, I decided
>> to work on one that could focus on IRC and how to get started.
>>
>> https://salsa.debian.org/zleap-guest/oftc-presentation
>>
>> I am not sure if this is useful, but I would anticipate this can form
>> part of a series on getting started with Debian contributing.  It is
>> early days on this at the moment but I am getting there slowly.
>>
>> I am not going to touch on IRC clients other than the web interface,
>> once people are connected to IRC they are able to ask for further help
>> and information on clients.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>>
>> Paul Sutton
>>
>>
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>>
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