Re: Copyright question

2008-02-06 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Jean!

You wrote:

> I intend to package HPL benchmarks. Copyright file contains the
> following statements:
> --
>  1. Redistributions  of  source  code  must retain the above copyright
>  notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.   
>  
>  2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce  the above copyright
>  notice, this list of conditions,  and the following disclaimer in the
>  documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>  
>  3. All  advertising  materials  mentioning  features  or  use of this
>  software must display the following acknowledgement:
>  This  product  includes  software  developed  at  the  University  of
>  Tennessee, Knoxville, Innovative Computing Laboratories.
>  
>  4. The name of the  University,  the name of the  Laboratory,  or the
>  names  of  its  contributors  may  not  be used to endorse or promote
>  products  derived   from   this  software  without  specific  written
>  permission.  
> 
> 
> I've read DFSG and I'm not sure if items 3 and 4 are problematic. Can
> someone help me ? If it's not ok, may it be in contrib ?

Why is that probematic?  It seems like a default 4-clause BSD license to
me.  Should be fine, unless you intend to link it against GPL code.

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Re: RFS: arCHMage - CHM(Compiled HTML) Decompressor

2005-06-22 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Paul!

You wrote:

> You need to add build-depends on chmlib-dev and cdbs. There is no
> python-pychm package in debian at the moment, so perhaps you could
> include that code until there is.

I'm sponsoring the python-chm package for Carlos Z.F. Liu, and I will
probably upload today or tomorrow.  In the mean time, his package can be
found at mentors.debian.net (the source package is called pychm).

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Re: Stupid shebang tricks

2005-05-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi martin!

You wrote:

> True. But before it will even be considered to make env standard,
> the parameter problem would have to be solved. perl -w and /bin/sh
> -e are just necessary.

Just put "use warnings;" or "set -e" in the script.

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Re: CERN root

2004-12-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Adam!

You wrote:

> The license is at http://root.cern.ch/root/License.html. I'm assuming the
> specific cause of concern is:
> 
> "Additionally, the authors grant permission to modify this software and its
> documentation for any purpose, provided that such modifications are not
> distributed without the explicit consent of the authors"

Even worse, it apparently links against Xclass (LGPL) and Cernlib (GPL)
libraries[1], while the above license it clearly GPL- (and possibly(?) LGPL-)
incompatible.  Theredore, it cannot even be legally distributed.

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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-08 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Don!

You wrote:

> Presumably it does postscript or svg output... (R does the former, and
> you can trivially convert to the later.)

How?  gs doesn't seem to have a svg output driver.


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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-08 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Don!

You wrote:

> Presumably it does postscript or svg output... (R does the former, and
> you can trivially convert to the later.)

How?  gs doesn't seem to have a svg output driver.


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Re: Long double alignment test

2004-06-03 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Brett!

You wrote:

> Anyone know if this works? Could someone please run this on each of
> the archs we support (particularly ia64) and report the results to me?

Ok.

alpha:

your code: 
sizeof(foo)=16
sizeof(align)=8
sizeof(f2)=32
union may be aligned on 8 byte boundaries.

Neal's code:
char: 1
short: 2
int: 4
long: 8
long long: 8
void*: 8
float: 4
double: 8
long double: 8


ia64:

your code:
sizeof(foo)=16
sizeof(align)=8
sizeof(f2)=32
union may be aligned on 8 byte boundaries.

Neal's:
char: 1
short: 2
int: 4
long: 8
long long: 8
void*: 8
float: 4
double: 8
long double: 16



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Re: Long double alignment test

2004-06-03 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Brett!

You wrote:

> Anyone know if this works? Could someone please run this on each of
> the archs we support (particularly ia64) and report the results to me?

Ok.

alpha:

your code: 
sizeof(foo)=16
sizeof(align)=8
sizeof(f2)=32
union may be aligned on 8 byte boundaries.

Neal's code:
char: 1
short: 2
int: 4
long: 8
long long: 8
void*: 8
float: 4
double: 8
long double: 8


ia64:

your code:
sizeof(foo)=16
sizeof(align)=8
sizeof(f2)=32
union may be aligned on 8 byte boundaries.

Neal's:
char: 1
short: 2
int: 4
long: 8
long long: 8
void*: 8
float: 4
double: 8
long double: 16



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Re: How to access cvs.debian.org with ssh/rsa keys?

2004-03-06 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Frank!

You wrote:

> I have set CVS_RSH=ssh, and I try to access the cvs with 
> 
> cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/tetex login
> Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvs/tetex
> CVS password: 
> 
> This doesn't look like ssh authentication. What am I doing wrong (or
> what should I have read)?

You should use [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/tetex as cvsroot.  The
onnections will then be built using ssh instead of pserver.

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Re: How to access cvs.debian.org with ssh/rsa keys?

2004-03-06 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Frank!

You wrote:

> I have set CVS_RSH=ssh, and I try to access the cvs with 
> 
> cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/tetex login
> Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvs/tetex
> CVS password: 
> 
> This doesn't look like ssh authentication. What am I doing wrong (or
> what should I have read)?

You should use [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/tetex as cvsroot.  The
onnections will then be built using ssh instead of pserver.

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Re: RFS (3): aap

2003-10-29 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Cory!

You wrote:

> A-A-P is an astoundingly powerful replacement for make that keeps the good
> ideas, cleans up the syntax and adds important features like Python 
> scripting.
>  Upstream is Bram Moolenaar, whom you may know as the author of ViM.  It:
> * has autoconf/make features
> * supports pluggable "tools" for network features such as retrieving build
> dependencies from the net with scp or wget or publishing files
> * integrates with several flavors of source control systems and offers
> facilities for extending it with your own favorite
> * can bend bars with the power of its mind.

This looks quite useful indeed.  If no one else volonteers, I'd be happy
to sponsor you.  I don't have a lot of time though, so it will probably
take a little while (a week or so) before I can check the package.

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Re: RFS (3): aap

2003-10-29 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Cory!

You wrote:

> A-A-P is an astoundingly powerful replacement for make that keeps the good
> ideas, cleans up the syntax and adds important features like Python 
> scripting.
>  Upstream is Bram Moolenaar, whom you may know as the author of ViM.  It:
> * has autoconf/make features
> * supports pluggable "tools" for network features such as retrieving build
> dependencies from the net with scp or wget or publishing files
> * integrates with several flavors of source control systems and offers
> facilities for extending it with your own favorite
> * can bend bars with the power of its mind.

This looks quite useful indeed.  If no one else volonteers, I'd be happy
to sponsor you.  I don't have a lot of time though, so it will probably
take a little while (a week or so) before I can check the package.

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Re: Build-Recommends?

2003-07-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Michel!

You wrote:

> Build-Depends: libcurl2-dev | curl | wget
> might serve as a workaround?

I guees he would need something like

  (Build-Depends: libcurl2-dev) | (Depends: curl | wget)

which isn't possible.

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Re: Build-Recommends?

2003-07-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Michel!

You wrote:

> Build-Depends: libcurl2-dev | curl | wget
> might serve as a workaround?

I guees he would need something like

  (Build-Depends: libcurl2-dev) | (Depends: curl | wget)

which isn't possible.

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Re: How to change the applicant email address

2003-07-16 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Manfred!

You wrote:

> could someone please tell me what to do to have my Debian email address
> changed?

Just send a mail to the Frontdesk.

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Re: How to change the applicant email address

2003-07-16 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Manfred!

You wrote:

> could someone please tell me what to do to have my Debian email address
> changed?

Just send a mail to the Frontdesk.

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Re: sponsor for minido

2003-07-01 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi francesco!

You wrote:

> it is also multi user because profiles are stored in /usr/share so every
> system user can access it, while it stores information in a home
> subdirectory.

User profiles should not be stored in /usr, but probably in /var (if the
data changes, that is).

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Re: sponsor for minido

2003-07-01 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi francesco!

You wrote:

> it is also multi user because profiles are stored in /usr/share so every
> system user can access it, while it stores information in a home
> subdirectory.

User profiles should not be stored in /usr, but probably in /var (if the
data changes, that is).

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Re: What to do if $PACKAGE needs $ACCOUNT to _build_

2003-06-09 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Marc!

You wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 15:11:59 -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Well, you could do the chown at install time inside the postinst.  That 
> >should 
> >solve the problem nicely.
> 
> Which is what my package already does, but it does not even build with
> the account not present. I am very unsure about handling this.

So, fix the build system and send your changes upstream.

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Re: What to do if $PACKAGE needs $ACCOUNT to _build_

2003-06-09 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Marc!

You wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 15:11:59 -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Well, you could do the chown at install time inside the postinst.  That should 
> >solve the problem nicely.
> 
> Which is what my package already does, but it does not even build with
> the account not present. I am very unsure about handling this.

So, fix the build system and send your changes upstream.

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Re: Querying what packages are installed in postinst

2003-05-27 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Alan!

You wrote:

> For the next version of a package which I currently have sponsored in 
> Debian (mozilla-mozgest) I want to add support for mozilla-firebird 
> (preliminary packages are avalible from 
> http://people.debian.org/~eric/debian/i386) and mozilla-snapshot. The 
> problem is that in order to do this I need to do different things for 
> each of the browsers in postinst and postrm. Basicaly what I'd like to 
> know is if theres a nicer way to test if a package is installed than 
> just testing the existance of files that the package would create if it 
> was installed?

Uhm, I don't think you should do these kinds of tricks anyway.  For
example, your package wouldn't work correctly if I first install
mozilla, then mosgest, and last firebird, because your package's
postinst would only do stuff for mozilla.

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Re: Moving packages from "Requested" to "Can't be packaged"

2003-04-25 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi andy.grafham!

You wrote:

> Is there any way of requesting the BTS to move a package from
> "Requested" to "Can't be packaged"? I was investigating packaging
> "VisualBoyAdvance" a gameboy advance emulator, but it looks like
> license problems will make it impossible to include in debian.

AFAIK, there is no automatic way of doing this.  
What about adding a new tag, something like CBP (cannot be packaged), to
the wnpp?

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Re: Building stable packages

2003-04-25 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Holger!

You wrote:

> When I use pbuilder, I get a package that could be installed on woody. The
> problem is, that the files are not signed.

You can use debsign to sign the package after building.

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Re: removing entire directories from original source

2003-03-29 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Carlo!

You wrote:

> I have two packages, 'atoms' and 'horae'.  horae depends on atoms and
> perl-tk and in the original tarball, it contains perl module
> subdirectories which generate installed perl modules and man pages which
> would overwrite the ones in the perl-tk and atoms packages.
> 
> I can fix the overwrite errors in the deb packages by simply removing the
> module subdirectories in horae but I am not sure if that is the proper way
> to do it.

Sure, anything you don't need or want, you can just remove in debian/tmp
(or debian/horae).

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Re: removing entire directories from original source

2003-03-29 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Carlo!

You wrote:

> I have two packages, 'atoms' and 'horae'.  horae depends on atoms and
> perl-tk and in the original tarball, it contains perl module
> subdirectories which generate installed perl modules and man pages which
> would overwrite the ones in the perl-tk and atoms packages.
> 
> I can fix the overwrite errors in the deb packages by simply removing the
> module subdirectories in horae but I am not sure if that is the proper way
> to do it.

Sure, anything you don't need or want, you can just remove in debian/tmp
(or debian/horae).

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Re: Packaging Perl programs

2003-03-05 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Carlo!

You wrote:

> Is there a simple way to generate the contents of debian/ for such
> programs or is the best thing to do to look at similar package and copy
> and modify the control files?

IIRC, the debian/ dir is simply copied from /usr/share/debhelper/dh_make

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Re: Packaging Perl programs

2003-03-05 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Carlo!

You wrote:

> Is there a simple way to generate the contents of debian/ for such
> programs or is the best thing to do to look at similar package and copy
> and modify the control files?

IIRC, the debian/ dir is simply copied from /usr/share/debhelper/dh_make

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Re: Upstream debian/ dir.

2003-02-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Jonathan!

You wrote:

> I'm the Debian maintainer for pksd, an OpenPGP keyserver. I've been
> asked by upstream if I want to maintain the debian/ directory in the
> project's CVS. The RPM .spec file is already done this way. Is there any
> good reason not to do this? 

I see very few problems with this, if you do it The Right Way[1].

> It will make things a lot easier for people
> pulling running CVS builds. The only drawback I can see is changes in
> the packaging between releases leads to a whole new src tarball to
> upload to the archive rather than just a new diff, but hopefully this
> shouldn't happen too often.

That shouldn't be necessary, since you could just run a cvs up on the
debian/ dir alone.

[1] The Right Way, IMHO, is using tags and branches.  For each upstream
release, you could have a debian branch, containing only changes to
the debian/ dir. 

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Re: Upstream debian/ dir.

2003-02-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Jonathan!

You wrote:

> I'm the Debian maintainer for pksd, an OpenPGP keyserver. I've been
> asked by upstream if I want to maintain the debian/ directory in the
> project's CVS. The RPM .spec file is already done this way. Is there any
> good reason not to do this? 

I see very few problems with this, if you do it The Right Way[1].

> It will make things a lot easier for people
> pulling running CVS builds. The only drawback I can see is changes in
> the packaging between releases leads to a whole new src tarball to
> upload to the archive rather than just a new diff, but hopefully this
> shouldn't happen too often.

That shouldn't be necessary, since you could just run a cvs up on the
debian/ dir alone.

[1] The Right Way, IMHO, is using tags and branches.  For each upstream
release, you could have a debian branch, containing only changes to
the debian/ dir. 

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Re: need help with bug #178837 (automake)

2003-02-03 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Frank!

You wrote:

> Makefile.am now says
[...]
> CFLAGS  = -Wall -O3 `freetype-config --cflags` ${SDL_CFLAGS} 
> ${BUMPREF_CFLAGS} `

> What do I have to change to be able to add -mieee on alpha, preferably
> from debian/rules, or configure ?

If you change the above line in Makefile.am to 

| CFLAGS += -Wall -O3 `freetype-config --cflags` ${SDL_CFLAGS} 
${BUMPREF_CFLAGS} `
you can set CFLAGS=-mieee in the environment, and it will get
picked up by the Makefile.  You could then simply put the Alpha test in
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Re: need help with bug #178837 (automake)

2003-02-03 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Frank!

You wrote:

> Makefile.am now says
[...]
> CFLAGS  = -Wall -O3 `freetype-config --cflags` ${SDL_CFLAGS} ${BUMPREF_CFLAGS} `

> What do I have to change to be able to add -mieee on alpha, preferably
> from debian/rules, or configure ?

If you change the above line in Makefile.am to 

| CFLAGS += -Wall -O3 `freetype-config --cflags` ${SDL_CFLAGS} ${BUMPREF_CFLAGS} `
you can set CFLAGS=-mieee in the environment, and it will get
picked up by the Makefile.  You could then simply put the Alpha test in
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Re: unITPing

2003-02-01 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Jonas!

You wrote:

> Should I just file an RFP bug somehow or what should I do ?

Just retitle the existing bug to an RFP.

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Re: unITPing

2003-02-01 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Jonas!

You wrote:

> Should I just file an RFP bug somehow or what should I do ?

Just retitle the existing bug to an RFP.

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Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Russell!

You wrote:

> One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for 
> every binary on your system.  /usr/bin and /bin binaries deserve man pages in 
> section 1, /usr/sbin and /sbin binaries deserve man pages in section 8.  If 
> you write a Perl script to search for such man pages you will should find 
> hundreds of them to be missing on a typical system (there's more than a few 
> missing from my packages).  Then start writing some man pages!

There is already such a script, see http://qa.debian.org/man-pages.html

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Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Russell!

You wrote:

> One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for 
> every binary on your system.  /usr/bin and /bin binaries deserve man pages in 
> section 1, /usr/sbin and /sbin binaries deserve man pages in section 8.  If 
> you write a Perl script to search for such man pages you will should find 
> hundreds of them to be missing on a typical system (there's more than a few 
> missing from my packages).  Then start writing some man pages!

There is already such a script, see http://qa.debian.org/man-pages.html

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Re: questions on packaging

2003-01-08 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Tommaso!

You wrote:

> Should I wait for my application to be approved or look for a sponsor?

No, just go ahead and find a sponsor.

> Should I report an ITP even if I'm not a Debian Developer?

Yes, definately.  

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Re: questions on packaging

2003-01-08 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Tommaso!

You wrote:

> Should I wait for my application to be approved or look for a sponsor?

No, just go ahead and find a sponsor.

> Should I report an ITP even if I'm not a Debian Developer?

Yes, definately.  

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Re: fetchmail on master.debian.org

2002-12-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Andrea!

You wrote:

> I would prefer to get my e-mail from master.debian.org
> using fetchmail (instead of having a forward in the db db.debian.org)
> how can I do it?

I don't think it is possible atm. Master runs no pop and no imap
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Re: fetchmail on master.debian.org

2002-12-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Andrea!

You wrote:

> I would prefer to get my e-mail from master.debian.org
> using fetchmail (instead of having a forward in the db db.debian.org)
> how can I do it?

I don't think it is possible atm. Master runs no pop and no imap
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Re: Intent To Package (heatload)

2002-12-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Malte!

You wrote:

> I have build a debian-package and now I'm locking for a sponsor.
> From the Package-Description of 'heatload':
> Graphical and nummerical ACPI- and CPU-load-monitor applett for X11
>   This Gtk utility produces nice looking realtime graphs for the
>   current CPU-load and some ACPI-values (eg. temperature, battery) of your
>   Linux machine. It is nice for monitoring the direct relation of
>   the former to the latter.

Please file an ITP bug against the wnpp package, as described on
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/

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Re: Intent To Package (heatload)

2002-12-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Malte!

You wrote:

> I have build a debian-package and now I'm locking for a sponsor.
> From the Package-Description of 'heatload':
> Graphical and nummerical ACPI- and CPU-load-monitor applett for X11
>   This Gtk utility produces nice looking realtime graphs for the
>   current CPU-load and some ACPI-values (eg. temperature, battery) of your
>   Linux machine. It is nice for monitoring the direct relation of
>   the former to the latter.

Please file an ITP bug against the wnpp package, as described on
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Re: Which compiler

2002-11-05 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Bob!

You wrote:

>  For the 1386 architecture, sid has gcc 2:2.95.4-17 and gcc-3.0
> 1:3.0.4-13.  Which compiler should be used for an Architecture: any
> package?  

The default one for the architecture in question.

> If the answer is gcc-3.0, should that be included in the
> build-depends? 

No, and neither should any other build-essential packages be included in
the build-depends.

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Re: Which compiler

2002-11-05 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Bob!

You wrote:

>  For the 1386 architecture, sid has gcc 2:2.95.4-17 and gcc-3.0
> 1:3.0.4-13.  Which compiler should be used for an Architecture: any
> package?  

The default one for the architecture in question.

> If the answer is gcc-3.0, should that be included in the
> build-depends? 

No, and neither should any other build-essential packages be included in
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Re: C++ help please

2002-10-24 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Allen!

You wrote:

> I hope i am not trobleing you by askin for your help.
>  i was asked to do this, and i have no idea how its
> done, i dont know c++ at all and cant get out of doing
> this, i was wondering if any one can help me.

I think you should do your own homework.

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Re: C++ help please

2002-10-24 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Allen!

You wrote:

> I hope i am not trobleing you by askin for your help.
>  i was asked to do this, and i have no idea how its
> done, i dont know c++ at all and cant get out of doing
> this, i was wondering if any one can help me.

I think you should do your own homework.

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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Sven!

You wrote:

> > Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
> > package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
> > package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.
> 
> The autobuilder retry old packages that failed on a regular basis, just
> wait some time for them to do it. Some will try daily, other weekly and
> other will retry when they have time for it.
> 
> You could wait a week or so, and if the situation doesn't improve,
> contact the autobuilder maintainer.
> 
> Alternatively, you could login on a debian paroject machine, and build
> the program yourself.

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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Sven!

You wrote:

> > Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
> > package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
> > package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.
> 
> The autobuilder retry old packages that failed on a regular basis, just
> wait some time for them to do it. Some will try daily, other weekly and
> other will retry when they have time for it.
> 
> You could wait a week or so, and if the situation doesn't improve,
> contact the autobuilder maintainer.
> 
> Alternatively, you could login on a debian paroject machine, and build
> the program yourself.

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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Marco!

You wrote:

> How do I force a rebuild on buildd?  One of my package could not
> be built due to a bug in debhelper which is now solved.  Two of
> the architectures have already built the package successfully now
> that the new version is available; can I trigger the other
> architectures to try a new build as well?

If you uploaded a new package, the buildds will automagically build it.
I could take some time, though.

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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Marco!

You wrote:

> How do I force a rebuild on buildd?  One of my package could not
> be built due to a bug in debhelper which is now solved.  Two of
> the architectures have already built the package successfully now
> that the new version is available; can I trigger the other
> architectures to try a new build as well?

If you uploaded a new package, the buildds will automagically build it.
I could take some time, though.

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Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Drew!

You wrote:

> Why does policy ask us to strip binaries anyway?  Is it merely to reduce
> storage and bandwidth costs?

Yes, afaik this is the only reason.

> Could someone please clarify if it's appropriate to respect upstream's
> wishes to leave the symbols in?

Sure. It's only a "should" in policy, not a "must", so it's ok not to
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Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Drew!

You wrote:

> Why does policy ask us to strip binaries anyway?  Is it merely to reduce
> storage and bandwidth costs?

Yes, afaik this is the only reason.

> Could someone please clarify if it's appropriate to respect upstream's
> wishes to leave the symbols in?

Sure. It's only a "should" in policy, not a "must", so it's ok not to
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Re: building packages on unstable for stable

2002-09-20 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Holger!

You wrote:

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> I want to build a package on my computer for several other hosts at work.
> I use unstable but on some other hosts there is stable. My problem is:
> Building packages with debhelper causes a dependency (expanded from
> shlibs:Depends) of the package libc6 at least at the version used on my
> unstable. This package cannot be installed on stable, because the
> libc6/stable is too old.
> 
> Does anyone know how to build this package with other dependencies?
> 
> Greetings 
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> 
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Re: building packages on unstable for stable

2002-09-20 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Holger!

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> Building packages with debhelper causes a dependency (expanded from
> shlibs:Depends) of the package libc6 at least at the version used on my
> unstable. This package cannot be installed on stable, because the
> libc6/stable is too old.
> 
> Does anyone know how to build this package with other dependencies?
> 
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Re: Sponsor request: quelcom

2002-09-18 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Devin!

You wrote:

> I've packaged David Many'e's "Quelcom" suite of MP3 and WAV editing and
> utility apps; I'm interested in finding a sponsor for them.

I'd be happy to sponsor you, if you are in the NM queue (or plan to
enter soon).

The copyright of the program is a bit unclear though. There is no
mention of copyright or license at all, except for a copy of the GPL
being in the upstream source. There is no mention that the software is
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Re: Sponsor request: quelcom

2002-09-18 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Devin!

You wrote:

> I've packaged David Many'e's "Quelcom" suite of MP3 and WAV editing and
> utility apps; I'm interested in finding a sponsor for them.

I'd be happy to sponsor you, if you are in the NM queue (or plan to
enter soon).

The copyright of the program is a bit unclear though. There is no
mention of copyright or license at all, except for a copy of the GPL
being in the upstream source. There is no mention that the software is
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Re: mldonkey needs sponsor

2002-09-05 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Moritz!

You wrote:

> With the release of a GPLed Windows Edonkey client (emule) and its
> reveal of the protocol mldonkey's upstream decided to do the same.
> I don't see any obstacle wrt mldonkey's level of freedom now.

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Re: mldonkey needs sponsor

2002-09-05 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Moritz!

You wrote:

> With the release of a GPLed Windows Edonkey client (emule) and its
> reveal of the protocol mldonkey's upstream decided to do the same.
> I don't see any obstacle wrt mldonkey's level of freedom now.

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Re: config.* in the diff?

2002-08-15 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Ross!

You wrote:

> clean:
>   dh_testdir
>   dh_testroot
>   rm -f build-stamp 
>   -$(MAKE) distclean
>   -test -r /usr/share/misc/config.sub && \
> cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub
>   -test -r /usr/share/misc/config.guess && \
> cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.guess config.guess
>   dh_clean

This doesn't really make much sense. In my packages, I copy the new
config.{sub,guess} over the old ones in one of the build targets,
and put a backup of the original ones back in the clean target. That
way, the packages always use an up-to-date config.{sub,guess}, but the
diff isn't clobbered in any way because of this.

> For the moment I commented these the cp lines out, and restored the
> original files from the tarball. However, what is the "proper" solution
> to this?

The best solution is of course to get upstream include up-to-date
config.{sub,guess}. But just letting the clean target do what it's
supposed to do (i.e. clean the source tree).

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Re: config.* in the diff?

2002-08-15 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Ross!

You wrote:

> clean:
>   dh_testdir
>   dh_testroot
>   rm -f build-stamp 
>   -$(MAKE) distclean
>   -test -r /usr/share/misc/config.sub && \
> cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub
>   -test -r /usr/share/misc/config.guess && \
> cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.guess config.guess
>   dh_clean

This doesn't really make much sense. In my packages, I copy the new
config.{sub,guess} over the old ones in one of the build targets,
and put a backup of the original ones back in the clean target. That
way, the packages always use an up-to-date config.{sub,guess}, but the
diff isn't clobbered in any way because of this.

> For the moment I commented these the cp lines out, and restored the
> original files from the tarball. However, what is the "proper" solution
> to this?

The best solution is of course to get upstream include up-to-date
config.{sub,guess}. But just letting the clean target do what it's
supposed to do (i.e. clean the source tree).

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Re: new debs, itp process

2002-07-26 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Michael!

You wrote:

> So, I looked at the wnpp list and found limewire, which is a good fit
> for me because I've worked on gnutella a lot. I have a deb package
> made for it, which can be found on my website, hyperpoem.net, in the
> right hand side bar. 

IIRC, limewire was already ITPed a few days ago.

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Re: new debs, itp process

2002-07-26 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Michael!

You wrote:

> So, I looked at the wnpp list and found limewire, which is a good fit
> for me because I've worked on gnutella a lot. I have a deb package
> made for it, which can be found on my website, hyperpoem.net, in the
> right hand side bar. 

IIRC, limewire was already ITPed a few days ago.

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Re: Sponsor request for cernlib

2002-06-16 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Kevin!

You wrote:

> I know Cernlib is hardly a suitable project for someone who hopes to
> become a new Debian developer; it includes shared libraries, data files,
> and all sorts of good stuff.  (Even getting it to compile with shared
> instead of static libraries took a good deal of work.)  But what can I say
> -- I needed it :)  So if there are any physicists who would be interested
> in sponsoring me for these packages, please take a look.

I'd like to see this in Debian, so I'll sponsor you. I'll take a look at
your packages later this week.
It would be nice if, in the mean time, you could get your key signed.
I think there are a lot of develoepr sin your area, so it shouldn't be
much of a problem to arrange a meeting.

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Re: Sponsor request for cernlib

2002-06-16 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Kevin!

You wrote:

> I know Cernlib is hardly a suitable project for someone who hopes to
> become a new Debian developer; it includes shared libraries, data files,
> and all sorts of good stuff.  (Even getting it to compile with shared
> instead of static libraries took a good deal of work.)  But what can I say
> -- I needed it :)  So if there are any physicists who would be interested
> in sponsoring me for these packages, please take a look.

I'd like to see this in Debian, so I'll sponsor you. I'll take a look at
your packages later this week.
It would be nice if, in the mean time, you could get your key signed.
I think there are a lot of develoepr sin your area, so it shouldn't be
much of a problem to arrange a meeting.

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Re: Unidentified subject!

2002-06-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Wei!

(Note that debian-project is not the right mailinglist for this subject.
I've changed the Cc to debian-mentors, where it is more on-topic).

You wrote:

>My name is Wei Gao, I am an international student
> at an American University. I took a course on Network
> TCP/IP this spring, and I used the linux for the first
> time in my life. I really liked it, it's very robust,
> and efficient. I was just wondering if you can let me
> become an volunteer for the debian project and work on
> some projects. 

Well, of course. Debian is actually run by volunteers only, and anyone
is welcomed to join the project.

> I am totally free this summer and I
> know how to program in C,C++, java, and I am also an
> computer science major. My main problem like other
> inernational students is I don't have much working
> experience. Therefore, if you have to let me show you
> an resume, I can't show it because I don't working
> experience. 

To join Debian, there's no need for a resume. We have a New-Maintainer
process, in which you are appointed a so-called Application Manager. He
will check your knowledge of the Debian system and policy, as well as
your packaging and/or programming skills. More information about how to
join and what to do before you sign up, can be found at
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint and
http://www.debian.org/devel/join. 

The most important thing you should keep in mind, is that you should
create a GPG key pair, and that you should get your key signed by a
Debian developer. In order for a key to be signed, you must meet in
person with the developer, so you should find a developer that lives
near you.

Also, it is advisable to read the Debian Policy Manual, the developers
reference and the New Maintainer's Guide before you sign up. All of
those can be found at http://www.debian.org/devel. it would be usefull
to subscribe yourself to the debian-devel and debian-mentors
mailinglists, too, so you might get an idea of what is being done in
Debian. Information on how to subscribe and on what mailing lists are
available, can be found at http://lists.debian.org/.

I hope you find this information useful, and I hope you decide to join
Debian.

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Re: Unidentified subject!

2002-06-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Wei!

(Note that debian-project is not the right mailinglist for this subject.
I've changed the Cc to debian-mentors, where it is more on-topic).

You wrote:

>My name is Wei Gao, I am an international student
> at an American University. I took a course on Network
> TCP/IP this spring, and I used the linux for the first
> time in my life. I really liked it, it's very robust,
> and efficient. I was just wondering if you can let me
> become an volunteer for the debian project and work on
> some projects. 

Well, of course. Debian is actually run by volunteers only, and anyone
is welcomed to join the project.

> I am totally free this summer and I
> know how to program in C,C++, java, and I am also an
> computer science major. My main problem like other
> inernational students is I don't have much working
> experience. Therefore, if you have to let me show you
> an resume, I can't show it because I don't working
> experience. 

To join Debian, there's no need for a resume. We have a New-Maintainer
process, in which you are appointed a so-called Application Manager. He
will check your knowledge of the Debian system and policy, as well as
your packaging and/or programming skills. More information about how to
join and what to do before you sign up, can be found at
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint and
http://www.debian.org/devel/join. 

The most important thing you should keep in mind, is that you should
create a GPG key pair, and that you should get your key signed by a
Debian developer. In order for a key to be signed, you must meet in
person with the developer, so you should find a developer that lives
near you.

Also, it is advisable to read the Debian Policy Manual, the developers
reference and the New Maintainer's Guide before you sign up. All of
those can be found at http://www.debian.org/devel. it would be usefull
to subscribe yourself to the debian-devel and debian-mentors
mailinglists, too, so you might get an idea of what is being done in
Debian. Information on how to subscribe and on what mailing lists are
available, can be found at http://lists.debian.org/.

I hope you find this information useful, and I hope you decide to join
Debian.

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Re: fixing permissions

2002-01-06 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Magnus!

You wrote:

> extracting original source code
> patching original code using ketm_0.0.6-1.diff.gz
> trying to run ./configure 
> /bin/sh: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
> 
> I could fix the problem by manually by adding a chmod +x ./configure 
> somewhere in the rules section. But manually adding a diff seems somewhat 
> clumsy. 

The easiest way is probably just running "sh ./configure" from
debian/rules instead of just "./configure".

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Re: fixing permissions

2002-01-06 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Magnus!

You wrote:

> extracting original source code
> patching original code using ketm_0.0.6-1.diff.gz
> trying to run ./configure 
> /bin/sh: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
> 
> I could fix the problem by manually by adding a chmod +x ./configure 
> somewhere in the rules section. But manually adding a diff seems somewhat 
> clumsy. 

The easiest way is probably just running "sh ./configure" from
debian/rules instead of just "./configure".

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Re: dupload with openssh

2001-12-10 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Jérôme!

You wrote:

> > [Orthogonally, ] Consider using anonymous ftp instead; both ftp-master
> > and non-US have anonymous-ftp upload queues.
> 
>   Does this mean that some anonymous people are allowed to feed our
>   upload queues with some undesirable trash?

Yes, but I guess nothing is processed without checking the signature.

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Re: dupload with openssh

2001-12-10 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Jérôme!

You wrote:

> > [Orthogonally, ] Consider using anonymous ftp instead; both ftp-master
> > and non-US have anonymous-ftp upload queues.
> 
>   Does this mean that some anonymous people are allowed to feed our
>   upload queues with some undesirable trash?

Yes, but I guess nothing is processed without checking the signature.

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Re: libc6 on IA-64

2001-11-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi debian-mentors!

You wrote:

> Hi Lukasz!
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> > libc6 does not exist on alpha, ia64 (libc6.1) or hurd-i386 (libc0.2).
> > [...]
> > | ** Using build dependencies supplied by package:
> > 
> > | Build-Depends: debhelper, libc6 (>= 2.2.3-7), libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
> > (>=1.2.0), libsdl1.2-dev
> > 
> > [...]
> > Is there an "universal library name" I should use instead of libc6?
> 
> You should include libc in your build-dependencies precisely for this
  ^^
 Oops, I meant shouldn't, of course.
> reason. There's a list somewhere on www.debian.org iwth the package you
> may/must assume to be installed on a system when building packages.
> 
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Re: libc6 on IA-64

2001-11-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi debian-mentors!

You wrote:

> Hi Lukasz!
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> > libc6 does not exist on alpha, ia64 (libc6.1) or hurd-i386 (libc0.2).
> > [...]
> > | ** Using build dependencies supplied by package:
> > 
> > | Build-Depends: debhelper, libc6 (>= 2.2.3-7), libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
> > (>=1.2.0), libsdl1.2-dev
> > 
> > [...]
> > Is there an "universal library name" I should use instead of libc6?
> 
> You should include libc in your build-dependencies precisely for this
  ^^
 Oops, I meant shouldn't, of course.
> reason. There's a list somewhere on www.debian.org iwth the package you
> may/must assume to be installed on a system when building packages.
> 
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Re: libc6 on IA-64

2001-11-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Lukasz!

You wrote:

> libc6 does not exist on alpha, ia64 (libc6.1) or hurd-i386 (libc0.2).
> [...]
> | ** Using build dependencies supplied by package:
> 
> | Build-Depends: debhelper, libc6 (>= 2.2.3-7), libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
> (>=1.2.0), libsdl1.2-dev
> 
> [...]
> Is there an "universal library name" I should use instead of libc6?

You should include libc in your build-dependencies precisely for this
reason. There's a list somewhere on www.debian.org iwth the package you
may/must assume to be installed on a system when building packages.

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Re: libc6 on IA-64

2001-11-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Lukasz!

You wrote:

> libc6 does not exist on alpha, ia64 (libc6.1) or hurd-i386 (libc0.2).
> [...]
> | ** Using build dependencies supplied by package:
> 
> | Build-Depends: debhelper, libc6 (>= 2.2.3-7), libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
> (>=1.2.0), libsdl1.2-dev
> 
> [...]
> Is there an "universal library name" I should use instead of libc6?

You should include libc in your build-dependencies precisely for this
reason. There's a list somewhere on www.debian.org iwth the package you
may/must assume to be installed on a system when building packages.

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Re: lintian goes wild?

2001-09-08 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Christian!

You wrote:

> Operator or semicolon missing before &supported at (eval 115) line 1.
> Ambiguous use of & resolved as operator & at (eval 115) line 1.
> Unquoted string "supported" may clash with future reserved word at (eval
> 112) line 1.

Looks like a bug in lintian to me. Have you tried contacting the lintian
maintainers?

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Re: lintian goes wild?

2001-09-08 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Christian!

You wrote:

> Operator or semicolon missing before &supported at (eval 115) line 1.
> Ambiguous use of & resolved as operator & at (eval 115) line 1.
> Unquoted string "supported" may clash with future reserved word at (eval
> 112) line 1.

Looks like a bug in lintian to me. Have you tried contacting the lintian
maintainers?

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Re: question on a licence

2001-05-24 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Noel!

You wrote:

> But I don't know if the licence is free for the Debian Free Software
> Guidelines ( http://www.de.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines ).

>  * Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose on
>  * any computer system, and to alter it and redistribute it freely,subject
>  * to the following restrictions:
>  * 1. The author and the University of Manitoba are not responsible 
>  *for the consequences of use of this software, no matter how awful, 
>  *even if they arise from flaws in it.
>  * 2. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented, either by
>  *explicit claim or by omission.  Since few users ever read sources,
>  *credits must appear in the documentation.
>  * 3. Altered versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be
>  *misrepresented as being the original software.  Since few users
>  *ever read sources, credits must appear in the documentation.
>  * 4. This notice may not be removed or altered.

Looks like a BSD-ish licence to me, so you should be ok. 

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Re: question on a licence

2001-05-24 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Noel!

You wrote:

> But I don't know if the licence is free for the Debian Free Software
> Guidelines ( http://www.de.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines ).

>  * Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose on
>  * any computer system, and to alter it and redistribute it freely,subject
>  * to the following restrictions:
>  * 1. The author and the University of Manitoba are not responsible 
>  *for the consequences of use of this software, no matter how awful, 
>  *even if they arise from flaws in it.
>  * 2. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented, either by
>  *explicit claim or by omission.  Since few users ever read sources,
>  *credits must appear in the documentation.
>  * 3. Altered versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be
>  *misrepresented as being the original software.  Since few users
>  *ever read sources, credits must appear in the documentation.
>  * 4. This notice may not be removed or altered.

Looks like a BSD-ish licence to me, so you should be ok. 

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Re: Making package.

2001-05-21 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Tommy!

You wrote:

> Hi guys. I'm trying to put together a package that contains a single
> binary program and have followed all the steps in the New Maintainor's
> guide and have managed to form the binary package. For some reason when I
> do:
> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot it compiles fine and asks me for my gpg
> password which works fine, but for some reason it says that source package
> will not be included.

You probably don't have a ../package_version.orig.tar.gz file.

> One thing that I notice when I run lintian -i it tells me that the program
> should have a man page. What do I do if this program didn't shop with
> one. This program has its documentation in different files.

The best thing is to write your own man page. It's not that hard, and
since the package does have documentation, it's probably just cut'n'past
work.

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Re: Making package.

2001-05-20 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Tommy!

You wrote:

> Hi guys. I'm trying to put together a package that contains a single
> binary program and have followed all the steps in the New Maintainor's
> guide and have managed to form the binary package. For some reason when I
> do:
> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot it compiles fine and asks me for my gpg
> password which works fine, but for some reason it says that source package
> will not be included.

You probably don't have a ../package_version.orig.tar.gz file.

> One thing that I notice when I run lintian -i it tells me that the program
> should have a man page. What do I do if this program didn't shop with
> one. This program has its documentation in different files.

The best thing is to write your own man page. It's not that hard, and
since the package does have documentation, it's probably just cut'n'past
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Re: variable path names in manpages

2001-05-10 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Manfred!

You wrote:

> I'm currently writing a manpage which is to be used in a Debian package,
> but not exclusively.  To be most flexible I want to use variables for path
> names that are expanded at build time.  Is there any standard or
> recommended way implement this?  

Well, you could just run sed over the man page before installing it.

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Re: variable path names in manpages

2001-05-10 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Manfred!

You wrote:

> I'm currently writing a manpage which is to be used in a Debian package,
> but not exclusively.  To be most flexible I want to use variables for path
> names that are expanded at build time.  Is there any standard or
> recommended way implement this?  

Well, you could just run sed over the man page before installing it.

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Re: diversions

2001-05-05 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Wolfgang!

You wrote:

> In my case the lpr provided by gfax is a wrapper to provide the lpr
> -Pfax command line. Should I contact both the LPRng and BSD lpr
> managers ? Also, I would like to know why it should be done, so that I
> can understand further.

Wouldn't it be a lot nicer to just add a "fax" entry to /etc/printcap? 
I know that at least lprng can handle printing to pipes (I use it to
`print' mp3's to mpg123).

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Re: diversions

2001-05-05 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Wolfgang!

You wrote:

> In my case the lpr provided by gfax is a wrapper to provide the lpr
> -Pfax command line. Should I contact both the LPRng and BSD lpr
> managers ? Also, I would like to know why it should be done, so that I
> can understand further.

Wouldn't it be a lot nicer to just add a "fax" entry to /etc/printcap? 
I know that at least lprng can handle printing to pipes (I use it to
`print' mp3's to mpg123).

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Re: Non-free question

2001-05-04 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Peter!

You wrote:

> > I'm considering packaging BET, a 128-bit blowfish-encrypted talk daemon.
> > However, it relies on a non-DFSG complian library, even though the program
> > itself is GPL.
> 
> The license needs to have an exemption for the GPL-incompatible
> library it uses.

Indeed. If there's no such exception, we cannot distribute it (just like
KDE in the past).

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Re: Non-free question

2001-05-04 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Peter!

You wrote:

> > I'm considering packaging BET, a 128-bit blowfish-encrypted talk daemon.
> > However, it relies on a non-DFSG complian library, even though the program
> > itself is GPL.
> 
> The license needs to have an exemption for the GPL-incompatible
> library it uses.

Indeed. If there's no such exception, we cannot distribute it (just like
KDE in the past).

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Re: gpg keyrings.

2001-04-29 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Timshel!

You wrote:

> I note that the debian-keyring package is horribly outdated
> (2000.08.30), how often is it updated? I've reverted to downloading the
> keyring manually from auric.d.o ...

The sid package should be up to date, I think. Since my system still
runs potato however, I get new keyrings from auric every 2 days
automatically:

0 6 */2 * * cd $HOME/.gnupg; scp -q -C 
auric.debian.org:/org/keyring.debian.org/keyrings/debian-keyring.{gpg,pgp} .

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Re: gpg keyrings.

2001-04-29 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Timshel!

You wrote:

> I note that the debian-keyring package is horribly outdated
> (2000.08.30), how often is it updated? I've reverted to downloading the
> keyring manually from auric.d.o ...

The sid package should be up to date, I think. Since my system still
runs potato however, I get new keyrings from auric every 2 days
automatically:

0 6 */2 * * cd $HOME/.gnupg; scp -q -C 
auric.debian.org:/org/keyring.debian.org/keyrings/debian-keyring.{gpg,pgp} .

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Re: Debian Package Ready, Need Sponsor

2001-04-22 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Jimmy!

You wrote:

> Could someone from debian-mentors please take a look at my package and sponsor
> it for inclusion in the distribution? If it gets in, I will seek to become an
> official Debian developer so I can handle this myself. I have fixed all the
> errors and warnings given by lintian, so that now lintian gives no messages.

I'll sponsor you. I'll take a look at the package tonight.

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Re: Debian Package Ready, Need Sponsor

2001-04-22 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Jimmy!

You wrote:

> Could someone from debian-mentors please take a look at my package and sponsor
> it for inclusion in the distribution? If it gets in, I will seek to become an
> official Debian developer so I can handle this myself. I have fixed all the
> errors and warnings given by lintian, so that now lintian gives no messages.

I'll sponsor you. I'll take a look at the package tonight.

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Re: Help for an ITA

2001-03-12 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi David!

You wrote:

>   Hello everybody. I want to send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for doing a 
> retitle 
> of a RFA bug. But the new title is too long and my mail client wraps the line 
> and puts the final piece in a new line:

Weel, the easiest way tyo do this is probably:
 echo "retitle etc" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Help for an ITA

2001-03-12 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi David!

You wrote:

>   Hello everybody. I want to send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for doing a retitle 
> of a RFA bug. But the new title is too long and my mail client wraps the line 
> and puts the final piece in a new line:

Weel, the easiest way tyo do this is probably:
 echo "retitle etc" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Daniel!

You wrote:

> I think Craig (Sanders) summed it up beautifully in his email where he said
> that the DAM was a servant-type job, not a master. How would you like it if
> a submarine captain just vanished on holiday without telling anyone because
> he couldn't be stuffed going on his next mission? The president? You get the
> picture. Joey, you've been given responsibility. You've been trusted. Your
> job as DAM is to take NM's, look at the AM's recommendations, and,
> eventually, assign accounts.
> 
> See those last 2 words? ASSIGN. ACCOUNTS. This isn't happening! And, if you
> ARE on holiday, why did you not see fit to tell anyone? (I know I'm not on
> -private, but several of those who are have verified he hasn't said a word).

You evidently don't know what you're talking about. 
  1) James did post on -private about this
  2) The DAM is the one who DECIDES whether you are accepted as a
 developer or not. He is not just someone who creates accounts. As a
 delegate of the project leader (e.g. Wichert), he may "may make
 certain decisions which the Leader may not make directly, including
 approving or expelling Developers or designating people as
 Developers who do not maintain packages. " (Debian Constitution).

> Enter Debian, 2001. Democracy. (Yeah, my arse). NMs aren't allowed to speak
> a non-positive word against so-called "senior developers" because they're
> just little, unimportant NMs. 

They _are_ allowed to speak, of course. They are not allowed to flame. 

> Nor are they allowed emails. Or machine
> access. 

There has been exactly one person who said this. Please don't
generalise.

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Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Daniel!

You wrote:

> I think Craig (Sanders) summed it up beautifully in his email where he said
> that the DAM was a servant-type job, not a master. How would you like it if
> a submarine captain just vanished on holiday without telling anyone because
> he couldn't be stuffed going on his next mission? The president? You get the
> picture. Joey, you've been given responsibility. You've been trusted. Your
> job as DAM is to take NM's, look at the AM's recommendations, and,
> eventually, assign accounts.
> 
> See those last 2 words? ASSIGN. ACCOUNTS. This isn't happening! And, if you
> ARE on holiday, why did you not see fit to tell anyone? (I know I'm not on
> -private, but several of those who are have verified he hasn't said a word).

You evidently don't know what you're talking about. 
  1) James did post on -private about this
  2) The DAM is the one who DECIDES whether you are accepted as a
 developer or not. He is not just someone who creates accounts. As a
 delegate of the project leader (e.g. Wichert), he may "may make
 certain decisions which the Leader may not make directly, including
 approving or expelling Developers or designating people as
 Developers who do not maintain packages. " (Debian Constitution).

> Enter Debian, 2001. Democracy. (Yeah, my arse). NMs aren't allowed to speak
> a non-positive word against so-called "senior developers" because they're
> just little, unimportant NMs. 

They _are_ allowed to speak, of course. They are not allowed to flame. 

> Nor are they allowed emails. Or machine
> access. 

There has been exactly one person who said this. Please don't
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Re: testing vs. unstable

2001-01-12 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi peter!

You wrote:

> Well, what I'm curious about is why only 1.2 is in testing, 1.4 was in
> woody since a couple of months before testing was introduced.

I was wondering how this works. Suppose a package foo version 1.0-1 is
in sid (for ar archs) without rc bugs for 13 days and on the 13th day a
package 1.0-2 is uploaded to sid. Will then still 1.0-1 go into woody
the next day, or won't 1.0-1 be considered now that 1.0-2 is available?

Furthermore, I wonder what
-  out of date on alpha: freesci (from 0.3.0.cvs2914-2) 
-  there are up to date bins in alpha also 
means. Does it mean that the version in sid is newer than the version in
woody (first line) and that there are bins available for alpha to go
into woody (second line)? If that is true, then why isn't my package
(freesci) considered for woody? the update_excuses say:

freesci 0.3.0.cvs20001212-1 (new) (low) 
 - Maintainer: Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 - freesci is 21 days out of date! 
 - out of date on alpha: freesci (from 0.3.0.cvs2914-2) 
 - there are up to date bins in alpha also 
 - out of date on arm: freesci (from 0.3.0.cvs2914-2) 
 - there are up to date bins in arm also 
 - out of date on powerpc: freesci (from 0.3.0-1) 
 - there are up to date bins in powerpc also 
 - out of date on sparc: freesci (from 0.3.0-1) 
 - there are up to date bins in sparc also 
 - not considered 

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Re: testing vs. unstable

2001-01-12 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi peter!

You wrote:

> Well, what I'm curious about is why only 1.2 is in testing, 1.4 was in
> woody since a couple of months before testing was introduced.

I was wondering how this works. Suppose a package foo version 1.0-1 is
in sid (for ar archs) without rc bugs for 13 days and on the 13th day a
package 1.0-2 is uploaded to sid. Will then still 1.0-1 go into woody
the next day, or won't 1.0-1 be considered now that 1.0-2 is available?

Furthermore, I wonder what
-  out of date on alpha: freesci (from 0.3.0.cvs2914-2) 
-  there are up to date bins in alpha also 
means. Does it mean that the version in sid is newer than the version in
woody (first line) and that there are bins available for alpha to go
into woody (second line)? If that is true, then why isn't my package
(freesci) considered for woody? the update_excuses say:

freesci 0.3.0.cvs20001212-1 (new) (low) 
 - Maintainer: Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 - freesci is 21 days out of date! 
 - out of date on alpha: freesci (from 0.3.0.cvs2914-2) 
 - there are up to date bins in alpha also 
 - out of date on arm: freesci (from 0.3.0.cvs2914-2) 
 - there are up to date bins in arm also 
 - out of date on powerpc: freesci (from 0.3.0-1) 
 - there are up to date bins in powerpc also 
 - out of date on sparc: freesci (from 0.3.0-1) 
 - there are up to date bins in sparc also 
 - not considered 

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Re: modernising old packages

2001-01-09 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Drew!

You wrote:

> What is the appropriate way of bringing meschach into the 21st Century?
> Are there any tools for handling this, or do the changes need to be made
> manually?

You'll have to do it manually. The file
/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.text.gz contains all
chanes between subsequent policy versions. Using this file, you can
easily figure out what exacly you'll have to change.

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Re: modernising old packages

2001-01-09 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Drew!

You wrote:

> What is the appropriate way of bringing meschach into the 21st Century?
> Are there any tools for handling this, or do the changes need to be made
> manually?

You'll have to do it manually. The file
/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.text.gz contains all
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Re: seperate dependencies for architectures

2001-01-06 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Goswin!

You wrote:

> You can set whatever depends during build, just like the
> ${shlibs:Depends} does.

Ah, that's a solution that I didn't think about. Thanks!

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Re: seperate dependencies for architectures

2001-01-06 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Goswin!

You wrote:

> You can set whatever depends during build, just like the
> ${shlibs:Depends} does.

Ah, that's a solution that I didn't think about. Thanks!

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Re: seperate dependencies for architectures

2001-01-06 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Goswin!

You wrote:

> Yes its possible and its covered. Try the web pages, I saw it there
> yesterday.

You are mistaken. It is only desribed for build time relationships
(Build-Depends, etc). And no, the same procedure doesn't work for an
ordinary Depends relation.

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