Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-03 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
 I strongly recommend that you follow the 0.99+1.0beta4-1 scheme that 
 was suggested.  Yes it's long, but it's also correct, flexible, and 
 proven.  In summary, the format is 
 [last_stable_version]+[experimental_version]-[package_version].  Please 
 use it, starting with your existing packages, before they go into the 
 official archive.  Now is the time to get things right.

sure, I agree it is way better, *but* there is users that already have
packages with versions in the current scheme, and it (sorry) sucks that
they have to downgrade to be up to date.

that's why I swear that after the 1.0 final I'll use this scheme, but
for the current betas I have to respect the previous error (since it's
indeed tasteless, but totally policy-compatible)


But I have a doubt suddently, since the (close: #ITP_nb) is not in the
changelog of the _last_ revision ... Do I need it to be in the last
revision to be taken into account ?

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 01:32:37PM +0200, Pierre HABOUZIT wrote:
 But I have a doubt suddently, since the (close: #ITP_nb) is not in the
 changelog of the _last_ revision ... Do I need it to be in the last
 revision to be taken into account ?

dpkg-buildpackage -v is your friend.

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-03 Thread John Belmonte

Pierre HABOUZIT wrote:
I strongly recommend that you follow the 0.99+1.0beta4-1 scheme that 
was suggested.  Yes it's long, but it's also correct, flexible, and 
proven.  In summary, the format is 
[last_stable_version]+[experimental_version]-[package_version].  Please 
use it, starting with your existing packages, before they go into the 
official archive.  Now is the time to get things right.


sure, I agree it is way better, *but* there is users that already have
packages with versions in the current scheme, and it (sorry) sucks that
they have to downgrade to be up to date.

that's why I swear that after the 1.0 final I'll use this scheme, but
for the current betas I have to respect the previous error (since it's
indeed tasteless, but totally policy-compatible)


There were two points I was trying to make.  One is that the format 
1.4+1.5beta3-1 is superior to your proposed short version 
1.4-1+beta3, which looks like trouble.  The other is that it would be 
best to switch to this format before entering the archive.  I just want 
to make sure you haven't overlooked the former.


-John

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-03 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
 
 There were two points I was trying to make.  One is that the format 
 1.4+1.5beta3-1 is superior to your proposed short version 
 1.4-1+beta3, which looks like trouble. 
well good point again, I should have been not very carefully, in fact, I
was proposing something like 1.4+beta3-1 (misplaced the revision sorry)
wich is shorter, but in fact, after some (very intense ;p) thought time,
in fact, the convention you propose is much better. maybe it should be
an advice given in the policyt ?

 The other is that it would be 
 best to switch to this format before entering the archive.  I just want 
 to make sure you haven't overlooked the former.
For this part, I repeat that I worked with preversion of my package that
had the (not smart) version scheme : 1.0-beta(x)-(rev)

and what I find bad is that people that were using it, will have to
force dpkg to do the upgrade since 0.99+1.0beta4-1  1.0-beta4-1 and I
find it's sad ...

I would agree immediately if my scheme wasn't policy compliant, but
since it's not the fact, is that really something that should change ?
Well if everybody think the actual thing is _that_ bad, well, I don't
want argue for something stupid like that, but well, maybe it would be
great not to make the users life harder for nothing ?
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-03 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
 I strongly recommend that you follow the 0.99+1.0beta4-1 scheme that 
 was suggested.  Yes it's long, but it's also correct, flexible, and 
 proven.  In summary, the format is 
 [last_stable_version]+[experimental_version]-[package_version].  Please 
 use it, starting with your existing packages, before they go into the 
 official archive.  Now is the time to get things right.

sure, I agree it is way better, *but* there is users that already have
packages with versions in the current scheme, and it (sorry) sucks that
they have to downgrade to be up to date.

that's why I swear that after the 1.0 final I'll use this scheme, but
for the current betas I have to respect the previous error (since it's
indeed tasteless, but totally policy-compatible)


But I have a doubt suddently, since the (close: #ITP_nb) is not in the
changelog of the _last_ revision ... Do I need it to be in the last
revision to be taken into account ?

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 01:32:37PM +0200, Pierre HABOUZIT wrote:
 But I have a doubt suddently, since the (close: #ITP_nb) is not in the
 changelog of the _last_ revision ... Do I need it to be in the last
 revision to be taken into account ?

dpkg-buildpackage -v is your friend.

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-02 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
 do you have any other advice/remark ?
well, if nobody has anything to add, is there someone interested in
beeing my sponsor for akregator ?
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-02 Thread John Belmonte

Pierre HABOUZIT wrote:

Indeed, in fact, where there will be a 1.1betax i'll use the
1.99-1+betax version number, that is really clear, and shorter than a
0.99-1+1.0-beta4

but in fact, the non-official debian repository where i dput my packages
atm had a qdirty package named 1.0-beta1 and I had to produce version
numbers greater than this one (the historical thing)

starting with 1.0, my version numbering will follow a +betax scheme


I strongly recommend that you follow the 0.99+1.0beta4-1 scheme that 
was suggested.  Yes it's long, but it's also correct, flexible, and 
proven.  In summary, the format is 
[last_stable_version]+[experimental_version]-[package_version].  Please 
use it, starting with your existing packages, before they go into the 
official archive.  Now is the time to get things right.


-John

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-02 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
 do you have any other advice/remark ?
well, if nobody has anything to add, is there someone interested in
beeing my sponsor for akregator ?
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-02 Thread John Belmonte
Pierre HABOUZIT wrote:
Indeed, in fact, where there will be a 1.1betax i'll use the
1.99-1+betax version number, that is really clear, and shorter than a
0.99-1+1.0-beta4
but in fact, the non-official debian repository where i dput my packages
atm had a qdirty package named 1.0-beta1 and I had to produce version
numbers greater than this one (the historical thing)
starting with 1.0, my version numbering will follow a +betax scheme
I strongly recommend that you follow the 0.99+1.0beta4-1 scheme that 
was suggested.  Yes it's long, but it's also correct, flexible, and 
proven.  In summary, the format is 
[last_stable_version]+[experimental_version]-[package_version].  Please 
use it, starting with your existing packages, before they go into the 
official archive.  Now is the time to get things right.

-John
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Jeremy Lainé
Some preliminary comments as I have not yet had time to look at the
package proper:

- the diff.gz is pretty much empty, it just patches the
debian/changelog. I have not been able to verify if the upstream
tarballs contain debian/* as the files do not seem to be on the sf.net
mirrors yet. From the CVS logs you seem to be part of the development
team, so it might be simpler to have the upstream tarballs drop
debian/* and just include these files in your diff.gz (which doesn't
prevent you from keeping debian/* in the same CVS repository!).

- the package versions look dodgy, as there are 2 dashes
(1.0-beta4-1). Furthermore you are going to run into problems when the
final 1.0 version comes out:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1.0-beta4-1 lt 1.0-1  echo
true
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

You might consider labeling the beta versions something like
0.99+1.0beta4-1.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0.99+1.0beta4-1 lt 1.0-1 
echo true
true
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Will try to have a look at the packaging itself later today.

Cheers,
Jeremy

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
  - the diff.gz is pretty much empty, it just patches the
  debian/changelog. I have not been able to verify if the upstream
  tarballs contain debian/* as the files do not seem to be on the sf.net
  mirrors yet.
they do.

   From the CVS logs you seem to be part of the development
  team, so it might be simpler to have the upstream tarballs drop
  debian/* and just include these files in your diff.gz (which doesn't
  prevent you from keeping debian/* in the same CVS repository!).
 Yes, this is a problem, Pierre, please generate a proper .orig.gz tarball, 
 without debian/ dir at all.
no problem, I'm the release tech anyway.
I'm on it.

  - the package versions look dodgy, as there are 2 dashes
  (1.0-beta4-1). Furthermore you are going to run into problems when the
  final 1.0 version comes out:
 Two dashes are perfectly valid according to Policy.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1.0-beta4-1 lt 1.0-1  echo
  true
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
 The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.
 
  You might consider labeling the beta versions something like
  0.99+1.0beta4-1.
for historical reason I have to keep the dash atm. Will be dropped in
favour of your suggestion above for next betas (i mean for other than
1.0 betas)
and like said Peter, next version will be 1.0.0-1 and then no problem at
all.

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Peter Rockai (mornfall)
On Thursday 01 July 2004 08:55, Jeremy Lainé wrote:
 Some preliminary comments as I have not yet had time to look at the
 package proper:

 - the diff.gz is pretty much empty, it just patches the
 debian/changelog. I have not been able to verify if the upstream
 tarballs contain debian/* as the files do not seem to be on the sf.net
 mirrors yet. From the CVS logs you seem to be part of the development
 team, so it might be simpler to have the upstream tarballs drop
 debian/* and just include these files in your diff.gz (which doesn't
 prevent you from keeping debian/* in the same CVS repository!).
Yes, this is a problem, Pierre, please generate a proper .orig.gz tarball, 
without debian/ dir at all.

 - the package versions look dodgy, as there are 2 dashes
 (1.0-beta4-1). Furthermore you are going to run into problems when the
 final 1.0 version comes out:
Two dashes are perfectly valid according to Policy.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1.0-beta4-1 lt 1.0-1  echo
 true
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.

 You might consider labeling the beta versions something like
 0.99+1.0beta4-1.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0.99+1.0beta4-1 lt 1.0-1 
 echo true
 true
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

 Will try to have a look at the packaging itself later today.

 Cheers,
 Jeremy
Yours,
Peter



Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
 no problem, I'm the release tech anyway.
 I'm on it.
done.
revision 2 is on its way on kalyxo, and as ever it's on

http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/

and as ever lintian, linda and pdebuild clean.

any remark ?
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:50 AM, Peter Rockai (mornfall)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 01 July 2004 08:55, Jeremy Lainé wrote:
[...]
 - the package versions look dodgy, as there are 2 dashes
 (1.0-beta4-1). Furthermore you are going to run into problems when
 the final 1.0 version comes out:
 Two dashes are perfectly valid according to Policy.

Indeed; however, as Jeremy pointed out `1.0-beta4' is greater than `1.0'

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1.0-beta4-1 lt 1.0-1  echo
 true
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
 The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.

Erm, no, please don't. 1.0.0 is an NMU version number.

 You might consider labeling the beta versions something like
 0.99+1.0beta4-1.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0.99+1.0beta4-1 lt 1.0-1 
 echo true
 true

This, otoh, is a commonly used and well-known method of numbering versions
so that the final release version is greater than the betas.

Adam



Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Christoph Wegscheider
Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.
 
 Erm, no, please don't. 1.0.0 is an NMU version number.
I thougth x-1.1 would be a NMU version number?

Christoph



Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 11:16:23AM +0200, Christoph Wegscheider wrote:
 Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.
  
  Erm, no, please don't. 1.0.0 is an NMU version number.
 I thougth x-1.1 would be a NMU version number?

Indeed, in fact, where there will be a 1.1betax i'll use the
1.99-1+betax version number, that is really clear, and shorter than a
0.99-1+1.0-beta4

but in fact, the non-official debian repository where i dput my packages
atm had a qdirty package named 1.0-beta1 and I had to produce version
numbers greater than this one (the historical thing)

starting with 1.0, my version numbering will follow a +betax scheme

but for the 1.0 betas (and maybe pre versions) I'll have to follow the
old scheme for backward compatibility
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:16 AM, Christoph Wegscheider
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.

 Erm, no, please don't. 1.0.0 is an NMU version number.
 I thougth x-1.1 would be a NMU version number?

You're correct, of course. It's one of those mornings

Adam



Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 01:20:23AM +0200, Pierre HABOUZIT wrote:
Hello!

I'm looking for sponsor for the $SUBJ (and I would like to start my NM
application too). The will be available soon at :

  deb http://www.kalyxo.org/debian unstable main

You didn't put the following lines in debian/copyright (see [0] and
[1]):

Copyright (c) 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 Frerich Raabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright (c) 2001, 2002, 2003 Frerich Raabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright (c) 2003 Frerich Raabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright (C) 2003 Georg Robbers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright (C) 2004 by Sashmit Bhaduri
Copyright (C) 2004 by Sashmit Bhaduri ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Copyright (C) 2004 by Stanislav Karchebny
Copyright (C) 2004 by Stanislav Karchebny, Sashmit Bhaduri
Copyright (C) 2004 by Teemu Rytilahti
Copyright (c) 2004 Frerich Raabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright (C) 2004 Gary Cramblitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Some of the obove lines may be combined into one line. That was just a
simplified output of:

grep -ri copyright akregator-1.0_beta4fixed/akregator/src/

Please consider to put the URL of the home page of the package in the
description in debian/control. See [2] and [3].

[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/12/msg7.html
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200312/msg00194.html
[2] 
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-upstream-info
[3] http://people.debian.org/~walters/descriptions.html

and is already at

  http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/

here you have the official releases :
  http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/vanilla/
  (official site has not been updated, you can find them on [1] too)

Here's the whereabouts of the package:
 o ITP Bug : 251871 (reported by Peter Rockai, but owned by me with his
   agreement. he is btw in Cc:)
 o the package is lintian and linda clean
 o he builds in pbuilder

I also run pbuilder on your source package and lintian and linda on the
.dsc created by pbuilder.

Version: 1.0-beta4
Upstream Author: Stanislav Karchebny
Url: http://akregator.upnet.ru/
Description: RSS feed aggregator for KDE
 aKregator is a KDE RSS aggregator. It supports the best known metaphors
 from existing aggregators. It also facilitates good integration with KDE
 by maintaining an interface similar to Konqueror and KMail.


best regards.

 [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/akregator/
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
 You didn't put the following lines in debian/copyright (see [0] and
 [1]):
[...]
 grep -ri copyright akregator-1.0_beta4fixed/akregator/src/
very good point.
done

 Please consider to put the URL of the home page of the package in the
 description in debian/control. See [2] and [3].
done too

it's still lintian and linda clean (didn't test pdebuild, but no
modification to build process or to upstream has been done ...)

dput-ed to kalyxo again, and as allways at [1]

http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/

do you have any other advice/remark ?
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Jeremy Lainé
Some preliminary comments as I have not yet had time to look at the
package proper:

- the diff.gz is pretty much empty, it just patches the
debian/changelog. I have not been able to verify if the upstream
tarballs contain debian/* as the files do not seem to be on the sf.net
mirrors yet. From the CVS logs you seem to be part of the development
team, so it might be simpler to have the upstream tarballs drop
debian/* and just include these files in your diff.gz (which doesn't
prevent you from keeping debian/* in the same CVS repository!).

- the package versions look dodgy, as there are 2 dashes
(1.0-beta4-1). Furthermore you are going to run into problems when the
final 1.0 version comes out:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1.0-beta4-1 lt 1.0-1  echo
true
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

You might consider labeling the beta versions something like
0.99+1.0beta4-1.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0.99+1.0beta4-1 lt 1.0-1 
echo true
true
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Will try to have a look at the packaging itself later today.

Cheers,
Jeremy

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
  - the diff.gz is pretty much empty, it just patches the
  debian/changelog. I have not been able to verify if the upstream
  tarballs contain debian/* as the files do not seem to be on the sf.net
  mirrors yet.
they do.

   From the CVS logs you seem to be part of the development
  team, so it might be simpler to have the upstream tarballs drop
  debian/* and just include these files in your diff.gz (which doesn't
  prevent you from keeping debian/* in the same CVS repository!).
 Yes, this is a problem, Pierre, please generate a proper .orig.gz tarball, 
 without debian/ dir at all.
no problem, I'm the release tech anyway.
I'm on it.

  - the package versions look dodgy, as there are 2 dashes
  (1.0-beta4-1). Furthermore you are going to run into problems when the
  final 1.0 version comes out:
 Two dashes are perfectly valid according to Policy.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1.0-beta4-1 lt 1.0-1  echo
  true
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
 The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.
 
  You might consider labeling the beta versions something like
  0.99+1.0beta4-1.
for historical reason I have to keep the dash atm. Will be dropped in
favour of your suggestion above for next betas (i mean for other than
1.0 betas)
and like said Peter, next version will be 1.0.0-1 and then no problem at
all.

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Peter Rockai (mornfall)
On Thursday 01 July 2004 08:55, Jeremy Lain wrote:
 Some preliminary comments as I have not yet had time to look at the
 package proper:

 - the diff.gz is pretty much empty, it just patches the
 debian/changelog. I have not been able to verify if the upstream
 tarballs contain debian/* as the files do not seem to be on the sf.net
 mirrors yet. From the CVS logs you seem to be part of the development
 team, so it might be simpler to have the upstream tarballs drop
 debian/* and just include these files in your diff.gz (which doesn't
 prevent you from keeping debian/* in the same CVS repository!).
Yes, this is a problem, Pierre, please generate a proper .orig.gz tarball, 
without debian/ dir at all.

 - the package versions look dodgy, as there are 2 dashes
 (1.0-beta4-1). Furthermore you are going to run into problems when the
 final 1.0 version comes out:
Two dashes are perfectly valid according to Policy.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1.0-beta4-1 lt 1.0-1  echo
 true
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.

 You might consider labeling the beta versions something like
 0.99+1.0beta4-1.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0.99+1.0beta4-1 lt 1.0-1 
 echo true
 true
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

 Will try to have a look at the packaging itself later today.

 Cheers,
 Jeremy
Yours,
Peter



Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
 no problem, I'm the release tech anyway.
 I'm on it.
done.
revision 2 is on its way on kalyxo, and as ever it's on

http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/

and as ever lintian, linda and pdebuild clean.

any remark ?
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:50 AM, Peter Rockai (mornfall)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 01 July 2004 08:55, Jeremy Lain wrote:
[...]
 - the package versions look dodgy, as there are 2 dashes
 (1.0-beta4-1). Furthermore you are going to run into problems when
 the final 1.0 version comes out:
 Two dashes are perfectly valid according to Policy.

Indeed; however, as Jeremy pointed out `1.0-beta4' is greater than `1.0'

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1.0-beta4-1 lt 1.0-1  echo
 true
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
 The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.

Erm, no, please don't. 1.0.0 is an NMU version number.

 You might consider labeling the beta versions something like
 0.99+1.0beta4-1.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0.99+1.0beta4-1 lt 1.0-1 
 echo true
 true

This, otoh, is a commonly used and well-known method of numbering versions
so that the final release version is greater than the betas.

Adam


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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Christoph Wegscheider
Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.
 
 Erm, no, please don't. 1.0.0 is an NMU version number.
I thougth x-1.1 would be a NMU version number?

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 11:16:23AM +0200, Christoph Wegscheider wrote:
 Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.
  
  Erm, no, please don't. 1.0.0 is an NMU version number.
 I thougth x-1.1 would be a NMU version number?

Indeed, in fact, where there will be a 1.1betax i'll use the
1.99-1+betax version number, that is really clear, and shorter than a
0.99-1+1.0-beta4

but in fact, the non-official debian repository where i dput my packages
atm had a qdirty package named 1.0-beta1 and I had to produce version
numbers greater than this one (the historical thing)

starting with 1.0, my version numbering will follow a +betax scheme

but for the 1.0 betas (and maybe pre versions) I'll have to follow the
old scheme for backward compatibility
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:16 AM, Christoph Wegscheider
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 Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The final version will be labelled 1.0.0-1 of course.

 Erm, no, please don't. 1.0.0 is an NMU version number.
 I thougth x-1.1 would be a NMU version number?

You're correct, of course. It's one of those mornings

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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 01:20:23AM +0200, Pierre HABOUZIT wrote:
Hello!

I'm looking for sponsor for the $SUBJ (and I would like to start my NM
application too). The will be available soon at :

  deb http://www.kalyxo.org/debian unstable main

You didn't put the following lines in debian/copyright (see [0] and
[1]):

Copyright (c) 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 Frerich Raabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright (c) 2001, 2002, 2003 Frerich Raabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright (c) 2003 Frerich Raabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright (C) 2003 Georg Robbers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright (C) 2004 by Sashmit Bhaduri
Copyright (C) 2004 by Sashmit Bhaduri ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Copyright (C) 2004 by Stanislav Karchebny
Copyright (C) 2004 by Stanislav Karchebny, Sashmit Bhaduri
Copyright (C) 2004 by Teemu Rytilahti
Copyright (c) 2004 Frerich Raabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright (C) 2004 Gary Cramblitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Some of the obove lines may be combined into one line. That was just a
simplified output of:

grep -ri copyright akregator-1.0_beta4fixed/akregator/src/

Please consider to put the URL of the home page of the package in the
description in debian/control. See [2] and [3].

[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/12/msg7.html
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200312/msg00194.html
[2] 
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-upstream-info
[3] http://people.debian.org/~walters/descriptions.html

and is already at

  http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/

here you have the official releases :
  http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/vanilla/
  (official site has not been updated, you can find them on [1] too)

Here's the whereabouts of the package:
 o ITP Bug : 251871 (reported by Peter Rockai, but owned by me with his
   agreement. he is btw in Cc:)
 o the package is lintian and linda clean
 o he builds in pbuilder

I also run pbuilder on your source package and lintian and linda on the
.dsc created by pbuilder.

Version: 1.0-beta4
Upstream Author: Stanislav Karchebny
Url: http://akregator.upnet.ru/
Description: RSS feed aggregator for KDE
 aKregator is a KDE RSS aggregator. It supports the best known metaphors
 from existing aggregators. It also facilitates good integration with KDE
 by maintaining an interface similar to Konqueror and KMail.


best regards.

 [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/akregator/
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Re: RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-07-01 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
 You didn't put the following lines in debian/copyright (see [0] and
 [1]):
[...]
 grep -ri copyright akregator-1.0_beta4fixed/akregator/src/
very good point.
done

 Please consider to put the URL of the home page of the package in the
 description in debian/control. See [2] and [3].
done too

it's still lintian and linda clean (didn't test pdebuild, but no
modification to build process or to upstream has been done ...)

dput-ed to kalyxo again, and as allways at [1]

http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/

do you have any other advice/remark ?
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2004-06-30 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
Hello!

I'm looking for sponsor for the $SUBJ (and I would like to start my NM
application too). The will be available soon at :

  deb http://www.kalyxo.org/debian unstable main

and is already at

  http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/

here you have the official releases :
  http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/vanilla/
  (official site has not been updated, you can find them on [1] too)


Here's the whereabouts of the package:
 o ITP Bug : 251871 (reported by Peter Rockai, but owned by me with his
   agreement. he is btw in Cc:)
 o the package is lintian and linda clean
 o he builds in pbuilder


Version: 1.0-beta4
Upstream Author: Stanislav Karchebny
Url: http://akregator.upnet.ru/
Description: RSS feed aggregator for KDE
 aKregator is a KDE RSS aggregator. It supports the best known metaphors
 from existing aggregators. It also facilitates good integration with KDE
 by maintaining an interface similar to Konqueror and KMail.


best regards.

 [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/akregator/
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RFS: akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE

2004-06-30 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
Hello!

I'm looking for sponsor for the $SUBJ (and I would like to start my NM
application too). The will be available soon at :

  deb http://www.kalyxo.org/debian unstable main

and is already at

  http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/

here you have the official releases :
  http://amaretto.inria.fr:8080/~mc/akregator/vanilla/
  (official site has not been updated, you can find them on [1] too)


Here's the whereabouts of the package:
 o ITP Bug : 251871 (reported by Peter Rockai, but owned by me with his
   agreement. he is btw in Cc:)
 o the package is lintian and linda clean
 o he builds in pbuilder


Version: 1.0-beta4
Upstream Author: Stanislav Karchebny
Url: http://akregator.upnet.ru/
Description: RSS feed aggregator for KDE
 aKregator is a KDE RSS aggregator. It supports the best known metaphors
 from existing aggregators. It also facilitates good integration with KDE
 by maintaining an interface similar to Konqueror and KMail.


best regards.

 [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/akregator/
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