Re: RFS: rlplot -- generate publication quality graphs

2004-06-18 Thread Frank Küster
James Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> I am looking for a sponsor for rlplot, a GUI based program to generate
> quality scientific graphs. It adds several features which are not readily
> available with other plotting packages like gnuplot such as good support
> for bar charts with error bars.
>
> I have uploaded the packages to 
>
> http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot
>
> Any comments welcomed.

- AFAIR, the copyright should be more verbose, containing something like
  the wording in the heading of the Makefile.

- You should close the ITP in the changelog

- Did you read README.Debian?

- rules: Please delete those unneeded targets and commented lines.

- other: The setting of CFLAGS in debian/rules will be ignored.

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel
Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: RFS: rlplot -- generate publication quality graphs

2004-06-20 Thread James Stone
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:10:15 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:

> James Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> 
>> I am looking for a sponsor for rlplot, a GUI based program to generate
>> quality scientific graphs. It adds several features which are not readily
>> available with other plotting packages like gnuplot such as good support
>> for bar charts with error bars.
>>
>> I have uploaded the packages to 
>>
>> http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot
>>
>> Any comments welcomed.
> 
> - AFAIR, the copyright should be more verbose, containing something like
>   the wording in the heading of the Makefile.
> 
> - You should close the ITP in the changelog
> 
> - Did you read README.Debian?
> 
> - rules: Please delete those unneeded targets and commented lines.
> 
> - other: The setting of CFLAGS in debian/rules will be ignored.
> 
> Regards, Frank


Thanks,

All changes made and uploaded to 

http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot

James



Re: RFS: rlplot -- generate publication quality graphs

2004-06-23 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 06:45:43AM +0100, James Stone wrote:
>Changes have now been made... still looking for a sponsor..
>
>I am looking for a sponsor for rlplot, a GUI based program to generate
>quality scientific graphs. It adds several features which are not readily
>available with other plotting packages like gnuplot such as good support
>for bar charts with error bars.
>
>I have uploaded the packages to 
>
>http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot
>
>Any comments welcomed.

There is no 'closes: #237116' in debian/changelog.

BTW, a 'closes: #237116' sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] won't close
237116. You shouldn't do that, anyway. The 'closes: #237116' in
debian/changelog will close 237116 automatically when rlplot is
uploaded.

>James Stone

Regards,

Anibal Monsalve Salazar
--
 .''`.  Debian GNU/Linux  | Building 28C
: :' :  Free Operating System | Monash University VIC 3800, Australia
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Re: RFS: rlplot -- generate publication quality graphs

2004-06-24 Thread James Stone
>>Changes have now been made... still looking for a sponsor..
>>
>>I am looking for a sponsor for rlplot, a GUI based program to generate
>>quality scientific graphs. It adds several features which are not readily
>>available with other plotting packages like gnuplot such as good support
>>for bar charts with error bars.
>>
>>I have uploaded the packages to 
>>
>>http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot
>>
>>Any comments welcomed.
> 
> There is no 'closes: #237116' in debian/changelog.
> 
> BTW, a 'closes: #237116' sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] won't close
> 237116. You shouldn't do that, anyway. The 'closes: #237116' in
> debian/changelog will close 237116 automatically when rlplot is
> uploaded.
> 

Thanks. further change made and uploaded to 

http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot

Any takers?

James




Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-06-30 Thread Frank Küster
James Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> More changes have been made... Fingers crossed the package is okay
> now!
>
> still looking for a sponsor..

I've had a look at it. Hm, it's not exactly what I hoped for (at least
not at it's present stage of development), and since I think I'm not
going to use it, I also won't sponsor it.

Just some remarks:

- The package should generate a menu entry

- Don't ship gpl.txt.gz

- Is there really no documentation except the manpage?

- The GUI looks nice, but it seems it's not fully ready for a release:
  It didn't ask me whether I wanted to save my plot when closing the
  window; I couldn't find how I could completely remove the symbols and
  only use the line (and other customization stuff), some actions are
  extremely slow, I didn't find out how I could resize the columns etc.

Regards, Frank


-- 
Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel
Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-04 Thread James Stone
> 
> I've had a look at it. Hm, it's not exactly what I hoped for (at least
> not at it's present stage of development), and since I think I'm not
> going to use it, I also won't sponsor it.

I'm sorry to hear that. I agree it is still in quite an early stage of
development, but AFAIK it is the only program that can generate the type
of bar charts with error bars that I need.. Maybe openoffice one day..?

Also, the upstream author has just added curve fitting which is quite nice.

> 
> Just some remarks:
> 
> - The package should generate a menu entry
> 
> - Don't ship gpl.txt.gz

These are two things I thought I had done.. I will have to take more care
with my releases, obviously.

> 
> - Is there really no documentation except the manpage?
> 

No.. but I could expand the manpage.

> - The GUI looks nice, but it seems it's not fully ready for a release:
>   It didn't ask me whether I wanted to save my plot when closing the
>   window; I couldn't find how I could completely remove the symbols and
>   only use the line (and other customization stuff), some actions are
>   extremely slow, I didn't find out how I could resize the columns etc.

I have passed these to upstream developer.. I think he is keen to get
feedback on needed features.

James



Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-04 Thread Roger Leigh
James Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> 
>> I've had a look at it. Hm, it's not exactly what I hoped for (at least
>> not at it's present stage of development), and since I think I'm not
>> going to use it, I also won't sponsor it.
>
> I'm sorry to hear that. I agree it is still in quite an early stage of
> development, but AFAIK it is the only program that can generate the type
> of bar charts with error bars that I need.. Maybe openoffice one day..?

Have you looked at GNU R?  It can generate some very sophisticated
graphs/charts--bar charts with error bars are just scratching the
surface.  There is also grace, which can also do error bars.


-- 
Roger Leigh

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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-05 Thread Frank Küster
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> James Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> 
>>> I've had a look at it. Hm, it's not exactly what I hoped for (at least
>>> not at it's present stage of development), and since I think I'm not
>>> going to use it, I also won't sponsor it.
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear that. I agree it is still in quite an early stage of
>> development, but AFAIK it is the only program that can generate the type
>> of bar charts with error bars that I need.. Maybe openoffice one day..?
>
> Have you looked at GNU R?  It can generate some very sophisticated
> graphs/charts--bar charts with error bars are just scratching the
> surface.  There is also grace, which can also do error bars.

...but lacks a simple spreadsheet for data editing/easy viewing of raw
figures. The same is probably true for R. The spreadsheet functionality
is the reason why I had a look at rlplot; but what I am looking for is a
replacement for proprietary software I currently use, and that only run
on Windows or Mac OS. Sometimes I also use Grace, but only if I know
that I don't need to work with the data I plot (like subtracting columns
from each other).

Regards, 
-- 
Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel
Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004, Frank Küster wrote:
> ...but lacks a simple spreadsheet for data editing/easy viewing of
> raw figures. The same is probably true for R. The spreadsheet
> functionality is the reason why I had a look at rlplot; but what I
> am looking for is a replacement for proprietary software I currently
> use, and that only run on Windows or Mac OS. Sometimes I also use
> Grace, but only if I know that I don't need to work with the data I
> plot (like subtracting columns from each other).

There are two separate things that you deal with in R.

The first is raw data. A simple spreadsheet program like gnumeric or a
texteditor sufices to enter the data.

Once you've got the raw data, you (ideally) perform all of the
manipulations of that data in R to prepare your graphs. In my current
work, I have a relatively standard data treatment that I apply to raw
data which produces the plots automagically without wasting time
entering formulas in a spreadsheet.

Not to mention that the plotting in R is publication quality straight
out of the box, which is, frankly, not the case for most extant
graphing programs.


Don Armstrong

-- 
Dropping non-free would set us back at least, what, 300 packages?  It'd take  
MONTHS to make up the difference, and meanwhile Debian users will be fleeing
to SLACKWARE.

And what about SHAREHOLDER VALUE? 
 -- Matt Zimmerman in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://www.donarmstrong.com
http://rzlab.ucr.edu



Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-07 Thread James Stone
> 
> There are two separate things that you deal with in R.
> 
> The first is raw data. A simple spreadsheet program like gnumeric or a
> texteditor sufices to enter the data.
> 
> Once you've got the raw data, you (ideally) perform all of the
> manipulations of that data in R to prepare your graphs. In my current
> work, I have a relatively standard data treatment that I apply to raw
> data which produces the plots automagically without wasting time
> entering formulas in a spreadsheet.
> 
> Not to mention that the plotting in R is publication quality straight
> out of the box, which is, frankly, not the case for most extant
> graphing programs.
> 
> 
> Don Armstrong

I have had a look at R. For my purposes (a drop in replacement for
sigmaplot or excel), R is overkill, not to say difficult to learn with a
steep learning curve..

rlplot fills the gap to a certain extent for me, better than any other
plotting program I have seen yet in Linux, and IMHO the output is at least
as good as any other graphing program available at present. Also it
outputs in scalable vectors which is nice for Latex formatting..

The upstream author seems keen to add features, but I think it needs to be
in the Debian packages to get more exposure.

James.



Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004, James Stone wrote:
> I have had a look at R. For my purposes (a drop in replacement for
> sigmaplot or excel), R is overkill, not to say difficult to learn
> with a steep learning curve..

No doubt. R is a bit overkill for almost everything normal people
do. [But when you need its features, it's often the only thing that
will work.]
 
> Also it outputs in scalable vectors which is nice for Latex
> formatting..

Presumably it does postscript or svg output... (R does the former, and
you can trivially convert to the later.)

> The upstream author seems keen to add features, but I think it needs
> to be in the Debian packages to get more exposure.

Could be. I'm not that familiar with the package and not really
speaking against it... just attempting to clear up a misconception
about R.


Don Armstrong

-- 
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continued to happen.
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http://rzlab.ucr.edu



Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-07 Thread elijah wright

> > I have had a look at R. For my purposes (a drop in replacement for
> > sigmaplot or excel), R is overkill, not to say difficult to learn with
> > a steep learning curve..
>
> No doubt. R is a bit overkill for almost everything normal people do.
> [But when you need its features, it's often the only thing that will
> work.]

R is like emacs, only moreso.  and that's why some of us love it.


> Presumably it does postscript or svg output... (R does the former, and
> you can trivially convert to the later.)

methinks there's probably an svg output package for R on CRAN

elijah



Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-08 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Don!

You wrote:

> Presumably it does postscript or svg output... (R does the former, and
> you can trivially convert to the later.)

How?  gs doesn't seem to have a svg output driver.


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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> You wrote:
> > Presumably it does postscript or svg output... (R does the former, and
> > you can trivially convert to the later.)
> 
> How?  gs doesn't seem to have a svg output driver.

pstoedit's libplot driver writes svg and generally works... [although,
it doesn't seem to like bitmaps in ps files.]

ImageMagick also can convert from ps->svg.


Don Armstrong

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Re: RFS: rlplot -- generate publication quality graphs

2004-06-18 Thread Frank Küster
James Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> I am looking for a sponsor for rlplot, a GUI based program to generate
> quality scientific graphs. It adds several features which are not readily
> available with other plotting packages like gnuplot such as good support
> for bar charts with error bars.
>
> I have uploaded the packages to 
>
> http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot
>
> Any comments welcomed.

- AFAIR, the copyright should be more verbose, containing something like
  the wording in the heading of the Makefile.

- You should close the ITP in the changelog

- Did you read README.Debian?

- rules: Please delete those unneeded targets and commented lines.

- other: The setting of CFLAGS in debian/rules will be ignored.

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel
Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: RFS: rlplot -- generate publication quality graphs

2004-06-20 Thread James Stone
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:10:15 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:

> James Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> 
>> I am looking for a sponsor for rlplot, a GUI based program to generate
>> quality scientific graphs. It adds several features which are not readily
>> available with other plotting packages like gnuplot such as good support
>> for bar charts with error bars.
>>
>> I have uploaded the packages to 
>>
>> http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot
>>
>> Any comments welcomed.
> 
> - AFAIR, the copyright should be more verbose, containing something like
>   the wording in the heading of the Makefile.
> 
> - You should close the ITP in the changelog
> 
> - Did you read README.Debian?
> 
> - rules: Please delete those unneeded targets and commented lines.
> 
> - other: The setting of CFLAGS in debian/rules will be ignored.
> 
> Regards, Frank


Thanks,

All changes made and uploaded to 

http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot

James


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Re: RFS: rlplot -- generate publication quality graphs

2004-06-23 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 06:45:43AM +0100, James Stone wrote:
>Changes have now been made... still looking for a sponsor..
>
>I am looking for a sponsor for rlplot, a GUI based program to generate
>quality scientific graphs. It adds several features which are not readily
>available with other plotting packages like gnuplot such as good support
>for bar charts with error bars.
>
>I have uploaded the packages to 
>
>http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot
>
>Any comments welcomed.

There is no 'closes: #237116' in debian/changelog.

BTW, a 'closes: #237116' sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] won't close
237116. You shouldn't do that, anyway. The 'closes: #237116' in
debian/changelog will close 237116 automatically when rlplot is
uploaded.

>James Stone

Regards,

Anibal Monsalve Salazar
--
 .''`.  Debian GNU/Linux  | Building 28C
: :' :  Free Operating System | Monash University VIC 3800, Australia
`. `'   http://debian.org/| http://www-personal.monash.edu/~anibal/
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Re: RFS: rlplot -- generate publication quality graphs

2004-06-24 Thread James Stone
>>Changes have now been made... still looking for a sponsor..
>>
>>I am looking for a sponsor for rlplot, a GUI based program to generate
>>quality scientific graphs. It adds several features which are not readily
>>available with other plotting packages like gnuplot such as good support
>>for bar charts with error bars.
>>
>>I have uploaded the packages to 
>>
>>http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot
>>
>>Any comments welcomed.
> 
> There is no 'closes: #237116' in debian/changelog.
> 
> BTW, a 'closes: #237116' sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] won't close
> 237116. You shouldn't do that, anyway. The 'closes: #237116' in
> debian/changelog will close 237116 automatically when rlplot is
> uploaded.
> 

Thanks. further change made and uploaded to 

http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/rlplot

Any takers?

James



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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-06-30 Thread Frank Küster
James Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> More changes have been made... Fingers crossed the package is okay
> now!
>
> still looking for a sponsor..

I've had a look at it. Hm, it's not exactly what I hoped for (at least
not at it's present stage of development), and since I think I'm not
going to use it, I also won't sponsor it.

Just some remarks:

- The package should generate a menu entry

- Don't ship gpl.txt.gz

- Is there really no documentation except the manpage?

- The GUI looks nice, but it seems it's not fully ready for a release:
  It didn't ask me whether I wanted to save my plot when closing the
  window; I couldn't find how I could completely remove the symbols and
  only use the line (and other customization stuff), some actions are
  extremely slow, I didn't find out how I could resize the columns etc.

Regards, Frank


-- 
Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel
Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-04 Thread James Stone
> 
> I've had a look at it. Hm, it's not exactly what I hoped for (at least
> not at it's present stage of development), and since I think I'm not
> going to use it, I also won't sponsor it.

I'm sorry to hear that. I agree it is still in quite an early stage of
development, but AFAIK it is the only program that can generate the type
of bar charts with error bars that I need.. Maybe openoffice one day..?

Also, the upstream author has just added curve fitting which is quite nice.

> 
> Just some remarks:
> 
> - The package should generate a menu entry
> 
> - Don't ship gpl.txt.gz

These are two things I thought I had done.. I will have to take more care
with my releases, obviously.

> 
> - Is there really no documentation except the manpage?
> 

No.. but I could expand the manpage.

> - The GUI looks nice, but it seems it's not fully ready for a release:
>   It didn't ask me whether I wanted to save my plot when closing the
>   window; I couldn't find how I could completely remove the symbols and
>   only use the line (and other customization stuff), some actions are
>   extremely slow, I didn't find out how I could resize the columns etc.

I have passed these to upstream developer.. I think he is keen to get
feedback on needed features.

James


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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-04 Thread Roger Leigh
James Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> 
>> I've had a look at it. Hm, it's not exactly what I hoped for (at least
>> not at it's present stage of development), and since I think I'm not
>> going to use it, I also won't sponsor it.
>
> I'm sorry to hear that. I agree it is still in quite an early stage of
> development, but AFAIK it is the only program that can generate the type
> of bar charts with error bars that I need.. Maybe openoffice one day..?

Have you looked at GNU R?  It can generate some very sophisticated
graphs/charts--bar charts with error bars are just scratching the
surface.  There is also grace, which can also do error bars.


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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-05 Thread Frank Küster
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> James Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> 
>>> I've had a look at it. Hm, it's not exactly what I hoped for (at least
>>> not at it's present stage of development), and since I think I'm not
>>> going to use it, I also won't sponsor it.
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear that. I agree it is still in quite an early stage of
>> development, but AFAIK it is the only program that can generate the type
>> of bar charts with error bars that I need.. Maybe openoffice one day..?
>
> Have you looked at GNU R?  It can generate some very sophisticated
> graphs/charts--bar charts with error bars are just scratching the
> surface.  There is also grace, which can also do error bars.

...but lacks a simple spreadsheet for data editing/easy viewing of raw
figures. The same is probably true for R. The spreadsheet functionality
is the reason why I had a look at rlplot; but what I am looking for is a
replacement for proprietary software I currently use, and that only run
on Windows or Mac OS. Sometimes I also use Grace, but only if I know
that I don't need to work with the data I plot (like subtracting columns
from each other).

Regards, 
-- 
Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel
Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004, Frank Küster wrote:
> ...but lacks a simple spreadsheet for data editing/easy viewing of
> raw figures. The same is probably true for R. The spreadsheet
> functionality is the reason why I had a look at rlplot; but what I
> am looking for is a replacement for proprietary software I currently
> use, and that only run on Windows or Mac OS. Sometimes I also use
> Grace, but only if I know that I don't need to work with the data I
> plot (like subtracting columns from each other).

There are two separate things that you deal with in R.

The first is raw data. A simple spreadsheet program like gnumeric or a
texteditor sufices to enter the data.

Once you've got the raw data, you (ideally) perform all of the
manipulations of that data in R to prepare your graphs. In my current
work, I have a relatively standard data treatment that I apply to raw
data which produces the plots automagically without wasting time
entering formulas in a spreadsheet.

Not to mention that the plotting in R is publication quality straight
out of the box, which is, frankly, not the case for most extant
graphing programs.


Don Armstrong

-- 
Dropping non-free would set us back at least, what, 300 packages?  It'd take  
MONTHS to make up the difference, and meanwhile Debian users will be fleeing
to SLACKWARE.

And what about SHAREHOLDER VALUE? 
 -- Matt Zimmerman in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://www.donarmstrong.com
http://rzlab.ucr.edu



Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-07 Thread James Stone
> 
> There are two separate things that you deal with in R.
> 
> The first is raw data. A simple spreadsheet program like gnumeric or a
> texteditor sufices to enter the data.
> 
> Once you've got the raw data, you (ideally) perform all of the
> manipulations of that data in R to prepare your graphs. In my current
> work, I have a relatively standard data treatment that I apply to raw
> data which produces the plots automagically without wasting time
> entering formulas in a spreadsheet.
> 
> Not to mention that the plotting in R is publication quality straight
> out of the box, which is, frankly, not the case for most extant
> graphing programs.
> 
> 
> Don Armstrong

I have had a look at R. For my purposes (a drop in replacement for
sigmaplot or excel), R is overkill, not to say difficult to learn with a
steep learning curve..

rlplot fills the gap to a certain extent for me, better than any other
plotting program I have seen yet in Linux, and IMHO the output is at least
as good as any other graphing program available at present. Also it
outputs in scalable vectors which is nice for Latex formatting..

The upstream author seems keen to add features, but I think it needs to be
in the Debian packages to get more exposure.

James.


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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004, James Stone wrote:
> I have had a look at R. For my purposes (a drop in replacement for
> sigmaplot or excel), R is overkill, not to say difficult to learn
> with a steep learning curve..

No doubt. R is a bit overkill for almost everything normal people
do. [But when you need its features, it's often the only thing that
will work.]
 
> Also it outputs in scalable vectors which is nice for Latex
> formatting..

Presumably it does postscript or svg output... (R does the former, and
you can trivially convert to the later.)

> The upstream author seems keen to add features, but I think it needs
> to be in the Debian packages to get more exposure.

Could be. I'm not that familiar with the package and not really
speaking against it... just attempting to clear up a misconception
about R.


Don Armstrong

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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-07 Thread elijah wright

> > I have had a look at R. For my purposes (a drop in replacement for
> > sigmaplot or excel), R is overkill, not to say difficult to learn with
> > a steep learning curve..
>
> No doubt. R is a bit overkill for almost everything normal people do.
> [But when you need its features, it's often the only thing that will
> work.]

R is like emacs, only moreso.  and that's why some of us love it.


> Presumably it does postscript or svg output... (R does the former, and
> you can trivially convert to the later.)

methinks there's probably an svg output package for R on CRAN

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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-08 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Don!

You wrote:

> Presumably it does postscript or svg output... (R does the former, and
> you can trivially convert to the later.)

How?  gs doesn't seem to have a svg output driver.


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Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs

2004-07-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> You wrote:
> > Presumably it does postscript or svg output... (R does the former, and
> > you can trivially convert to the later.)
> 
> How?  gs doesn't seem to have a svg output driver.

pstoedit's libplot driver writes svg and generally works... [although,
it doesn't seem to like bitmaps in ps files.]

ImageMagick also can convert from ps->svg.


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R and svg [Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs]

2004-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004, elijah wright wrote:
> methinks there's probably an svg output package for R on CRAN

Like http://www.darkridge.com/~jake/RSvg/ ? ;-)


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R and svg [Re: RFS: rlplot - generate publication quality graphs]

2004-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004, elijah wright wrote:
> methinks there's probably an svg output package for R on CRAN

Like http://www.darkridge.com/~jake/RSvg/ ? ;-)


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