Re: help in interpreting the packaging manual

2001-02-10 Thread Joey Hess

Domenico Andreoli wrote:
 now reading the packaging manual i found this writing:
 
 "A Conflicts entry should almost never have an `earlier than' version
  clause. This would prevent dpkg from upgrading or installing the package
  which declared such a conflict until the upgrade or removal of the
  conflicted-with package had been completed. This aspect of installation
  ordering is not handled by dselect, so that the use Conflicts in this
  way is likely to cause problems for `bulk run' upgrades and
  installations."
 
 now i'm not really undestanding the point, is it telling me i'm going
 to have problems during upgrade? what does it mean "bulk run"?

A bulk run is something like dpkg --BORGiE. We use to use such command
lines for upgrades in the days before apt, when the above was written.

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Re: help in interpreting the packaging manual

2001-02-10 Thread Ingo Saitz

On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 02:40:36PM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
 now reading the packaging manual i found this writing:
 
 "A Conflicts entry should almost never have an `earlier than' version
  clause. This would prevent dpkg from upgrading or installing the package
  which declared such a conflict until the upgrade or removal of the
  conflicted-with package had been completed. This aspect of installation
  ordering is not handled by dselect, so that the use Conflicts in this
  way is likely to cause problems for `bulk run' upgrades and
  installations."

I think this is for the old dselect methods which simply put all
*.deb files in one (or more) subdirs and called "dpkg -GROBiE .".
When using apt as dselect method as current installations already
default to, apt does the neccessary reordering.

 now i'm not really undestanding the point, is it telling me i'm going
 to have problems during upgrade? what does it mean "bulk run"?

It seems to me that this paragraph of the policy might be
obsoleted by now?

Ingo
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16  Hard coded constant for amount of room allowed for
cache align and faster forwarding (tunable)

-- seen in /usr/src/linux-2.2.14/net/TUNABLE


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Re: help in interpreting the packaging manual

2001-02-10 Thread Joey Hess
Domenico Andreoli wrote:
 now reading the packaging manual i found this writing:
 
 A Conflicts entry should almost never have an `earlier than' version
  clause. This would prevent dpkg from upgrading or installing the package
  which declared such a conflict until the upgrade or removal of the
  conflicted-with package had been completed. This aspect of installation
  ordering is not handled by dselect, so that the use Conflicts in this
  way is likely to cause problems for `bulk run' upgrades and
  installations.
 
 now i'm not really undestanding the point, is it telling me i'm going
 to have problems during upgrade? what does it mean bulk run?

A bulk run is something like dpkg --BORGiE. We use to use such command
lines for upgrades in the days before apt, when the above was written.

-- 
see shy jo



Re: help in interpreting the packaging manual

2001-02-10 Thread Ingo Saitz
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 02:40:36PM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
 now reading the packaging manual i found this writing:
 
 A Conflicts entry should almost never have an `earlier than' version
  clause. This would prevent dpkg from upgrading or installing the package
  which declared such a conflict until the upgrade or removal of the
  conflicted-with package had been completed. This aspect of installation
  ordering is not handled by dselect, so that the use Conflicts in this
  way is likely to cause problems for `bulk run' upgrades and
  installations.

I think this is for the old dselect methods which simply put all
*.deb files in one (or more) subdirs and called dpkg -GROBiE ..
When using apt as dselect method as current installations already
default to, apt does the neccessary reordering.

 now i'm not really undestanding the point, is it telling me i'm going
 to have problems during upgrade? what does it mean bulk run?

It seems to me that this paragraph of the policy might be
obsoleted by now?

Ingo
-- 
16  Hard coded constant for amount of room allowed for
cache align and faster forwarding (tunable)

-- seen in /usr/src/linux-2.2.14/net/TUNABLE



help in interpreting the packaging manual

2001-02-08 Thread Domenico Andreoli

i need to put a "Conflicts: curl-ssl(7.6-2)" in the control file of
my curl package since the curl-ssl packages newer then 7.6-2 know how
to handle the co-existence.

now reading the packaging manual i found this writing:

"A Conflicts entry should almost never have an `earlier than' version
 clause. This would prevent dpkg from upgrading or installing the package
 which declared such a conflict until the upgrade or removal of the
 conflicted-with package had been completed. This aspect of installation
 ordering is not handled by dselect, so that the use Conflicts in this
 way is likely to cause problems for `bulk run' upgrades and
 installations."

now i'm not really undestanding the point, is it telling me i'm going
to have problems during upgrade? what does it mean "bulk run"?

please help me interpreting it correctly.

thanks

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help in interpreting the packaging manual

2001-02-08 Thread Domenico Andreoli
i need to put a Conflicts: curl-ssl(7.6-2) in the control file of
my curl package since the curl-ssl packages newer then 7.6-2 know how
to handle the co-existence.

now reading the packaging manual i found this writing:

A Conflicts entry should almost never have an `earlier than' version
 clause. This would prevent dpkg from upgrading or installing the package
 which declared such a conflict until the upgrade or removal of the
 conflicted-with package had been completed. This aspect of installation
 ordering is not handled by dselect, so that the use Conflicts in this
 way is likely to cause problems for `bulk run' upgrades and
 installations.

now i'm not really undestanding the point, is it telling me i'm going
to have problems during upgrade? what does it mean bulk run?

please help me interpreting it correctly.

thanks

-[ Domenico Andreoli, aka cavok
 --[ http://filibusta.crema.unimi.it/~cavok/gpgkey.asc
   ---[ 3A0F 2F80 F79C 678A 8936  4FEE 0677 9033 A20E BC50


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