Re: BWF audio format

2007-04-25 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Martin Granger escribe:
> I'm running Ubuntu dapper. Could turning to Demudi help me handle
> BWF files ?

It usually doesn't matter as far as any software can be compiled using
any distro.

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Re: LinuxSampler?

2007-04-25 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Daniel James escribe:
> That's true, but in this case the risk is higher than usual. Firstly 
> because music hardware companies have poor awareness of the GPL, 
> compared to say... network hardware companies (and some of them are bad 
> enough). Secondly, because LinuxSampler can run as a headless node, so 
> it would be very easy to hide the code in a 'black box' appliance.

I remember about Kiss media players who had mplayer code inside and
were easily discovered...

> Musix is a good distro, but it's aimed at a different use case. We 
> should have a Spanish language forum on our new website, even though my 
> own Spanish isn't much better than ¡hola, amigo! :-)

I'd be glad to moderate that forum if it existed, or a mailing list
for users who talk spanish, if I were able to subscribe to 64 Studio
mailing lists!

I once had a french colleague whose spanish was limited to "doh
cervezah!" which means "two beers!" with a deep accent from
Andalucia. :)

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Re: LinuxSampler?

2007-04-25 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Free Ekanayaka escribe:
> http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel
> 
> with you address/pw?

I enter with my address, ask for a password reminder, and nothing is
received. I ask to be unsubscribed and the confirmation email is not
received, either.

Could it be that the domain punkass.com is blacklisted?

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Re: LinuxSampler?

2007-04-25 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Daniel James escribe:
> The LinuxSampler developers were concerned that a hardware company would 
> take their GPL'd code and put it into a proprietary product, 
> disrespecting the licence. (A very valid concern, in my view). They 
> therefore floated the idea that a future version of the software would 
> have a GPL exception, which asked that commercial distributors contact 
> the original developers for permission before shipping the code.

A valid concern, probably, but one anybody developing GPL code could
have!

> Some people over-reacted (in my opinion) to this proposed change, and 
> said that they would no longer distribute or contribute to the 
> LinuxSampler code. Some people were under the impression that 
> LinuxSampler was no longer GPL'd, or had become proprietary - but I see 
> no evidence for that.

I would see no problem on that. Even although new code was not GPL,
existing code would have to continue being GPL. So it would take not
much time for a fork to take place.

> In the meantime, at least one LinuxSampler developer has been working on 
> the code, on behalf of the Italian company Lionstracs, which makes 
> GNU/Linux-based keyboard instruments. (We also did some work at 64 
> Studio for this company). We ship LinuxSampler 0.3.3 and the qsampler 
> GUI front-end 0.1.3 in 64 Studio, which are both under GPL.

Talking about 64 Studio: I think I subscribed to the mailing list and
I reported there a problem while installing it. Since then I've seen
no activity in the mailing list. Zero messages. Is it like this or
simply I have subscribed incorrectly?

I moderate a spanish forum on Linux audio and people there love 64
Studio, even although there's Musix and their developers talk spanish!
So I find a bit sad 64 Studio community is not more active.

> I see no reason at all why version 0.4.0 should not be in Debian
> non-free.

I don't see it either.

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Re: LinuxSampler?

2007-04-25 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Mario Lang escribe:
> What is the status of packaging LinuxSampler for Debian?

Isn't it a completely frozen proyect?


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Re: Ardour 2.

2007-04-13 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Luke Yelavich escribe:
> I am going to go ahead and make these changes now, as UbuntuStudio want 
> to ship ardour2 on the CD they are preparing, and while not in Ubuntu 
> proper, I'd rather we get it right the first time. I'll let you know 
> once I have done so, and will point you to the source package.

Glad to read we care about Ubuntu Studio. :)

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Re: Jackd hell and other oddities

2007-04-13 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Daniel James escribe:
> The point I like to make to them is that the true innovators in 
> electronic music didn't follow what everyone else did, they created 
> their own tools. Still, it does explain why there's so much derivative 
> dance music around. I remember when Rebirth first came out, it was like 
> 'instant acid house, in a can'.

Right, like John Cage's piece for a detuned piano or Ligeti's one for
a hundred metronomes. Then people ask Linux to ship with a hundred
metronomes an apt-get away...

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Re: Jackd hell and other oddities

2007-04-13 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Marco Ghirlanda escribe:
> According to my experience the biggest obstacle both to Mac and Windows
> audio (and also generically creative people) creators for switching to
> Linux is not faults or lacks of our beautiful Free Software  (not
> always), but:
> 1) Too many tech barriers. On this list and please forgive me for being
> a bit rude I just again have to listen in 2007 people saying that
> editing /etc/security/limits.conf it's an easy step for users.
> No comments, here, really. Talk sometime to a non geek human and you'll
> get easily and fast the idea. Really: take a mac user and say: hey shiny
> guy, come in our Linux world: you just need to edit
> /etc/security/limits.conf!
> And watch his reaction...It was funny and inspiring for me. Until us
> "advanced" users do lots of this kind of tests we have no hopes, sorry.

It could be like that in your community. Here in Spain people just ask
"No Cubase, no Reason, no Ableton Live there!? Shit!" Which is
specially funny given that they usually are non authorized users of
that privative software. They use cracks and never payed a pennie for
using them. Maybe that's the point, they've always been using software
"for free", why should they be using "free" software?

> The point for me is not to have a Multimedia kernel but a "Server"
> Kernel and a "Desktop" Kernel. Main uses of a Debian box and of Linux
> box in general (I think 90% of people would fall into one of this two).

Agreed. Why not a tasksel option? If you select no desktop packages,
then install a server kernel. If you select desktop packages, then
autoconfigure a preemptive kernel plus rtlimits plus high resolution
timer in sysctl.conf, etc.

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Re: Jackd hell and other oddities

2007-04-13 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Eric Dantan Rzewnicki escribe:
> Sure, but some sort of audio-workstation meta-package could perhaps
> include a debconf question that sets this up based on user input or
> something. It would of course not be something installed by default on
> all systems whether asked for or not.

It sounds like a nice idea.

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Re: Jackd hell and other oddities

2007-04-12 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Eric Dantan Rzewnicki escribe:
> /etc/security/limits.conf needs to be set up as well. It's a simple
> step, but I guess it would be good if users didn't have to ask about it.

A multimedia dedicated distro should ship /etc/security/limits.conf
configured for realtime but not a generic distro. Letting all process
from a user in the group audio getting realtime could pose a security
problem in a server setup.

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Re: Jackd hell and other oddities

2007-04-12 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Daniel James escribe:
> This may have changed recently, but last month they used our 2.6.17 
> package in their 0.99 release, see under 'New Software Packages' here:

They're going to ship Musix 1.0 with 2.6.21 which we're testing for
them.

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Re: Jackd hell and other oddities

2007-04-10 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Marco Ghirlanda escribe:
> 1) a default Linux installation is less snappy (responsive) than a fresh
> Windows install (in example using the same software like Audacity)

As far as both default installations have no software and in Debian
all software is just an apt-get away, I admit I don't understand your
point.

> 1) Include in Debian a Multimedia/Desktop Kernel

I agree it should also be available an apt-get away nevertheless.

> 2) Make Jackd usable out of the box or after the installation of a
> "normal" package

I find it usable out of the box...

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Re: Jackd hell and other oddities

2007-04-10 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Daniel James escribe:
> I believe Musix now uses the 64 Studio kernel packages, so that's one 
> less variable ;-) Ubuntu Studio is not going for a Molnar-style RT 
> kernel, according to an interview with Cory Kontros I read.

That's not the case. Musix kernels are packaged by Tapani Raikkonen
which by the way is doing a great job, Musix is delivered with the
most recent kernels suitable to be patched for realtime work.

> I believe it's because in the mainstream, audio on GNU/Linux has mostly 
> been addressed from the point of view of a so-called 'consumer'. So 
> distros have tried to solve questions like "How do I make my iPod work 
> out of the box, so I can re-arrange my collection of Britney Spears 
> downloads?" rather than "How do I tune my kernel and OS for maximum 
> performance when tracking 24 channels over my ADAT interface?"

I agree with that. A system suitable for those who enjoy multimedia
just for fun is very different than a system for those who use a
system for multimedia creation. Indeed almost nobody really needs
jackd to be installed unless she pretends to use ardour, zynaddsubfx
or similar soft. So I think it's ok that Debian doesn't focus on
multimedia creation given there are more suitable distros adapted from
the Debian main one.

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Re: realtime-lsm for default Debian kernel

2007-04-04 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Roland Stigge escribe:
> with the attached patch, you can use realtime-lsm (realtime capabilities
> for ordinary users for e.g. JACK applications).

Setting rtlimits at /etc/security/limits.conf using a recent
libpam-modules should be the way to go for getting realtime.

Just an opinion but a widely shared one.

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Re: starting audio applications via a common wrapper?

2006-02-14 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
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> i'm not shure i understand but did you trie jack (jackd, jackstart - JACK 
> Audio
> Connection Kit sound server) use with jack, and qjack a frontend.

The point about the wrapper is not starting the server, is to connect
to the server and connect application's jack outputs to physical ports
automagically whenever posible.

I'd simply use a path jack->alsa and forget about sound daemons. This
is what musicians need.

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Re: Debian policy on multimedia ?

2006-01-25 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Junichi Uekawa escribe:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> > In terms of classical Debian terms, we will probably require a policy
> > documenting the following.  I'm a bit further away than I like from a
> > policy documentation at the moment, because not every piece is
> > available yet.
> 
> After having posted this; I noticed that there isn't really a
> convenient place for the yet-forthcoming debian-multimedia policy,
> since we are quite distributed.
> 
> A documentation-only package maintained by debian-multimedia that holds 
> common questions and answers, and a policy document would be nice.
> 
> Thoughts?

I'd be glad to contribute as far as my knowledge on the topic would
allow.

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Re: Low latency kernels

2005-01-30 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Robert Jordens escribe:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:33:33 +0100, Rem wrote:
> 
> >>Is there any kernel specially tuned for low latency operation available
> >>on sid or just planned?
> >>
> >>Even although this is only for checking if list is alive, any answer will
> >>be useful. :)
> 
> There are suitable kernels (2.4 with low latency patches) from
> DeMuDi/Agnula www.agnula.org. For 2.6 there should be a
> kernel-patch-realtime-preempt but time to package that is a rare good.

Looks like realtime-lsm-module-2.6.8-1-k7 got into sarge. :)

Unfortunately will need to compile a vanilla kernel, my Initio SCSI
controller is not supported by Debian packaged kernels.

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Low latency kernels

2005-01-28 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Is there any kernel specially tuned for low latency operation
available on sid or just planned?

Even although this is only for checking if list is alive, any answer
will be useful. :)

Cordially, Ismael


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