Re: GSoC, Outreachy and other time commitments (other jobs, etc)

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 09:05:00AM +0530, harsh daftary wrote:
> Faq :
> https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq#how_much_time_does_gsoc_participation_take
> 
> What I want to know is 40 hours per week of work does not mean 40 hours of
> coding right ?
> Can it be documenting / designing architecture or debugging as well ?

that is all work, it doesn't matter.

> And what would happen if the student who worked 40hrs/week but still could
> not complete the project ?

It is up to the mentor and the org admins to decide. Note that there has
been projects that "did not complete" in the past, and that is not a
problem; sometimes the project does not complete because both the mentor
and the student underestimated the effort. Not completing the project
does not mean that a student will fail the mid-term or final
evaluations.

I do think that for optimial results GSOC/Outreach should be a full-time
activity during the 3 months of the program, but nobody will go looking
through the student's window to see if he/she is really working
*exactly* 40 hours a week. What matters is if the student is really
doing useful work compatible, with someone working full-time on
something (and of course taking into account that a student should not
be held to the same standards as a professional engineer).

And how do you know that? Students should send weekly reports to this
list, listing what they have accomplished in the week: if there is no
report, we know there is something wrong. If the report is always
"didn't accomplished anything", there is something wrong.

Another thing that will help is constant communication with your mentor,
so if don't get stuck in an issue that could have an "easy" solution
that only someone with more experience than you will be able to know.

> Also I and my mentors live in different time zone (India and Europe) so it
> might not be possible for me any my mentor to be online and work at same
> time so in such cases what steps are taken ?

No mentor will be able to be with you all the time. You enjoy the hours
in common to have video/chat conversations and catch up when needed, but
most of the time you will be working by yourself, so the timezone
doesn't matter. This is how free software works; I myself work with very
few people that are in the same timezone as I am.


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Re: Kanboard and alternatives for mentoring

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:40:00PM -0500, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> > - we probably need to get some feedback from DebConf team, they already
> > discuss[1] it, maybe somebody will be willing to comment in this thread.
> >  Two specific questions for DebConf team: are you happy with Kanboard or
> > might you use another solution for 2019?  Do you see a possibility of
> > running a shared instance of it or do you really want your instance to
> > be DebConf only?
> 
> I've been using KanBoard for a while now, both for DebConf and for my
> job. I'm also the one doing most of the admin work for the
> kanban.debian.net instance at the moment.
> 
> I can't speak for the DC19 folks, but I like KanBoard a lot. The main
> developer is doing a lot of work and KanBoard keeps improving. The
> available plugins are nice too. Overall, it seems like a mature project.
> 
> We are currently in the process of migrating the kanban.debian.net
> instance to DSA infrastructure. DSA has been very responsive and the
> only reason this has not been done yet is that I don't have a lot of
> spare time these days.
> 
> At the moment, this instance is hosted on the personal server of an
> ex-dc17 team member, and thus not suitable for massive usage.
> 
> Once migrated to DSA infra, I have plans to make it available to the
> whole Debian project. I have to talk with DSA about it, but as I see it,
> the easiest path would be to use the Gitlab plugin and to let people
> authenticate using their salsa.debian.org account.
> 
> If I had to give an ETA on this, I would say it should be done in 3
> months? My university semester will be over and I should be a DD by
> then, making it easier for DSA to give me access to a VM.

FTR, gitlab supports kanban boards for repositories where issues are
enabled. maybe using salsa for kanban boards would be an avenue worth
exploring instead of maintaining yet another service, since salsa is
already being maintained anyway.

of course, KanBoard being a specialized tool, it probably has more
features and is way better than the gitlab kanban. or maybe, the gitlab
kanban is Good Enough™ for most uses.


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Re: selecting Debian mentors for the mentor summit

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 01:26:50PM +0530, Manas Kashyap wrote:
> I agree with Dashamir , but there is still time , so just  a quick review
> of their contribution and you get the result and so i shared my research
> too , so the result you can also see who is more deserving ,  Yeah there
> shouldn't be any criteria or rules  for everything , but what i learned in
> open source is you are introduced by the contributions you have done , so
> send someone who has more contributions and so , there is my research ,
> just look into it , i assure you will get a result soon .
> Lemme Share my Research Again
> 
> Milena Lavanchyhttps://github.com/MilenaLavanchy
> 
> 
> Jaminy Prabaharan
> https://github.com/Jaminy
> https://salsa.debian.org/Jaminy-guest
> 
> *Urvika Gola*
> https://salsa.debian.org/urvikagola-guest
> https://github.com/Urvika-gola
> 
> Dashamir Hoxha
> https://github.com/dashohoxha

Note that Debian does not happen at github, so sharing links to github
profiles over and over again is not relevant to this discussion. Also,
not all contributions to Debian can be caputured in git repositories.

Your point has been made. If you keep insisting, it will not only not
help it, but it will also allienate people.


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Re: Google Summer of code and Outreachy participation

[Antonio Terceiro]

Hi,

Thanks for organizing.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 07:09:33AM +0530, Abhijith PA wrote:
> 
> Debian is applying as a mentoring organization for the Google Summer
> of Code 2021 [1] and Outreachy May 2021 round [2] as we have done
> previous years.
> 
> This is a call for project proposals for both programs.
> 
> If you have a project idea related to Debian and can mentor (or can
> coordinate the mentorship with some Debian Developer) , please visit
> GSoC [3] and Outreachy [4] Debian wiki pages and submit proposals as
> instructed.

I have posted
https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2021/Projects/DebianCI

On the Outreachy platform, however,
https://www.outreachy.org/communities/cfp/debian/ says "The community
coordinators have not submitted this community to participate in the May
2021 to August 2021 Outreachy internship round." This needs to be done
before I can submit a project.


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