please help investigate potential gcc / kernel ICE on powerpc32 machines in lenny/sid.
Hi, ... I ask for volunteers to help investigate the bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=438504 I tried investigating it, despite what was done to me, and it appears on both my -mitx board and ag-'s powerbook G4. It does not appear on the augsbourg powerpc64 machines, which means something is fishy, and since the debian project has expulsed me, i am not able to test this on the official debian machines. It seems Martin Michlmair has said he tested it on a official debian machine, but on the same time Bastian Blank says : (10:37:53)< waldi> ag-: unable to check, the debian ppc32 machines are broken So, i wonder who is telling the truth, or if there is some kind of confusion going on. This bug is RC, since it stops the kernel from being built on the debian powerpc autobuilders, which means the powerpc port does not satisfy the release rules. Furthermore, this is one more case where the vendetta of a small vocal minority of DDs against me, is hurting the whole port, since i cannot investigate it using debian machines, and since i am banned from most debian lists and irc channels where this could be discussed. I am sorry to bring this up one more time, but it is urgent that someone else steps up, and investigates this kind of issues, or the powerpc debian port will go one more step to oblivion. I am sorry that this happens, but i have done what i could, and have been hurt too much by debian's leadership, who refuse any mediation or normalization of this mess, despite my continuous good will and appeals at conciliation. Sadly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help investigate potential gcc / kernel ICE on powerpc32 machines in lenny/sid.
Le mardi 21 août 2007 à 11:34 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : > Hi, ... > > I ask for volunteers to help investigate the bug Hi, I have a debian unstable 32 bits (dual 1GHz G4) here at work, but no time for tests, I can create you an account on it if you want. What else do you need ? Do you want me to debootstrap some distribution on it in order you can "play" with it. xavier If you need it, here is my lab phone number : 01 69 15 79 59 > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=438504 > > I tried investigating it, despite what was done to me, and it appears on > both my -mitx board and ag-'s powerbook G4. > > It does not appear on the augsbourg powerpc64 machines, which means > something is fishy, and since the debian project has expulsed me, i am > not able to test this on the official debian machines. It seems Martin > Michlmair has said he tested it on a official debian machine, but on the > same time Bastian Blank says : > > (10:37:53)< waldi> ag-: unable to check, the debian ppc32 machines are > broken > > So, i wonder who is telling the truth, or if there is some kind of > confusion going on. > > This bug is RC, since it stops the kernel from being built on the > debian powerpc autobuilders, which means the powerpc port does not > satisfy the release rules. > > Furthermore, this is one more case where the vendetta of a small vocal > minority of DDs against me, is hurting the whole port, since i cannot > investigate it using debian machines, and since i am banned from most > debian lists and irc channels where this could be discussed. I am sorry > to bring this up one more time, but it is urgent that someone else steps > up, and investigates this kind of issues, or the powerpc debian port > will go one more step to oblivion. > > I am sorry that this happens, but i have done what i could, and have > been hurt too much by debian's leadership, who refuse any mediation or > normalization of this mess, despite my continuous good will and appeals > at conciliation. > > Sadly, > > Sven Luther > > signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: please help investigate potential gcc / kernel ICE on powerpc32 machines in lenny/sid.
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 01:25:32PM +0200, xavier grave wrote: > Le mardi 21 août 2007 à 11:34 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : > > Hi, ... > > > > I ask for volunteers to help investigate the bug > > Hi, > > I have a debian unstable 32 bits (dual 1GHz G4) here at work, but no > time for tests, I can create you an account on it if you want. > What else do you need ? Do you want me to debootstrap some distribution > on it in order you can "play" with it. We have tested it on a powerbook and a mpc8349e-mitx board, but it seems they don't believe in me or something, so what is really needed is an independent test and confirmation. Could you do : apt-get build-dep linux-2.6 apt-get source linux-2.6 cd linux-2.6-2.6.22 dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -B and let it run in the background while you do something else. After an hour or two, it will either ICE or not. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help investigate potential gcc / kernel ICE on powerpc32 machines in lenny/sid.
> > We have tested it on a powerbook and a mpc8349e-mitx board, but it seems > they don't believe in me or something, so what is really needed is an > independent test and confirmation. > > Could you do : > > apt-get build-dep linux-2.6 > apt-get source linux-2.6 > cd linux-2.6-2.6.22 > dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -B > > and let it run in the background while you do something else. After an > hour or two, it will either ICE or not. OK I'll do that right now. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: PReP booting
Greg Trigg wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Indeed, its a chrp powerpc64, and the -powerpc64 kernels should work on them, as well as the powerpc64 installer flavour. I guess the kernel had a problem in etch on this hardware, did you try it out ? Did you file a bug report ? When I left home to go to work today, I was compiling a kernel, that hopefully has only a few minor adjustments to it. I removed a few things that were Mac specific, but included the driver sym53c8xx in the kernel instead of being a module. Hopefully it has compiled with no errors and I can make a vmlinuz out of it that will boot all the way up. If this works, then I'll file a bug report. Well, the kernel did compile, but it still did not boot. I'm going to try a few more settings in the kernel configuration and if I still can't get a successful boot up, I'll file a bug report. Greg -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help investigate potential gcc / kernel ICE on powerpc32 machines in lenny/sid.
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 02:04:21PM +0200, xavier grave wrote: > > > > > We have tested it on a powerbook and a mpc8349e-mitx board, but it seems > > they don't believe in me or something, so what is really needed is an > > independent test and confirmation. > > > > Could you do : > > > > apt-get build-dep linux-2.6 > > apt-get source linux-2.6 > > cd linux-2.6-2.6.22 > > dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -B > > > > and let it run in the background while you do something else. After an > > hour or two, it will either ICE or not. > > OK I'll do that right now. Cool, thanks. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sven Luther removed from the debian-kernel project
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 03:04:22PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > Hi team members, hi Sven > > We, the admins and core team members of the debian-kernel project, Who are the admins and core team members of the debian-kernel project, and where did you discuss and decide that ? > decided to remove Sven Luther from the kernel project. And whyever that ? Do you have a single reason for this action ? > The problems between Sven and the remain of the team did not decrease in Can you tell me what those problems are ? > the last months. He decided to ignore a Nack on the Efika-patchset > lately. Well, the nack was not justified, neither was any communication happening, and it is basically you and maximilian who decided this without any argumentation. I remember you that one of the arguments you gave (the abi change) once investigated, did not end up being as problematic as your initial NACK suggested. You also refused the PS3 patches, even though the linux/sony guys are actively working on upstreaming those, and the patches are all neatly separated in little patches. > Some of us even ignore him on IRC. > Bastian on behalf of the kernel team The problems are also due on big part due to the total lack of communication of you guys. Really sad that this happen, it is yet one more backstabbing from a team i considered the members to be close friends once, and with whom we achieved a lot when i had an active leadership role. Sadly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help investigate potential gcc / kernel ICE on powerpc32 machines in lenny/sid.
For info, Bastian Blank just expulsed me from the kernel team, without even trying to speak to me or something, calling on a supposedly anonymous kernel team. I am in no position to complain, being bared from all debian kernel lists, so sad, that again, my participation in debian is bared by those haters who are unable to communicate and have no single clue about solving social problems. This will probably mean no ps3 support and no efika support in debian, even though i am currently doing the work for this support. Sadly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fn + opt + F1-6 to move around the VTs doing okay?
am on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to do the alt + F1-6 to switch from and to the VTs i have to try it 5-6 times to have it really do the job is this only occuring to me? well but these keys are working fine @ OSX (when i bought this iBook springs under F-keys were broken even though the machine was brand new but i got it repaired a couple of months ago i got my HDD repaired so then something happened to the KB again?) -- 2g http://micro.ispretty.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 Sven & whoever it may concern (most Sven right now)
JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. 2 mails containing shit just today + this one Enought said about the particular subject -- --- Børge http://www.arivene.net ---
Re: 2 Sven & whoever it may concern (most Sven right now)
Børge Holen schrieb am Dienstag, 21. August 2007 um 23:11:32 +0200: |JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. | |2 mails containing shit just today + this one You happily may unsubscribe if you don't want to receive list messages. But please leave us alone with your foul language. Alles Gute Helmut H. Franke -- Servamus vitam terramque istam, quas amans pater noster ipse dedit nobis! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 Sven & whoever it may concern (most Sven right now)
On Tuesday 21 August 2007 23:29, Helmut H. Franke wrote: > Børge Holen schrieb am Dienstag, 21. August 2007 um 23:11:32 +0200: > |JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. > | > |2 mails containing shit just today + this one > > You happily may unsubscribe if you don't want to receive > list messages. But please leave us alone with your foul > language. spare me stupid remarks, tell you what; I may happily be in this community without the whining of adult ppl not being able to cooperate after agreements. btw bad language is about the only thing gone untried to end this bs arguments... > > > Alles Gute > Helmut H. Franke > > -- > Servamus vitam terramque istam, quas amans pater noster ipse dedit nobis! -- --- Børge http://www.arivene.net ---
Re: 2 Sven & whoever it may concern (most Sven right now)
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Børge Holen wrote: > On Tuesday 21 August 2007 23:29, Helmut H. Franke wrote: > > Børge Holen schrieb am Dienstag, 21. August 2007 um 23:11:32 +0200: > > |JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. > > | > > |2 mails containing shit just today + this one > > > > You happily may unsubscribe if you don't want to receive > > list messages. But please leave us alone with your foul > > language. > > spare me stupid remarks, tell you what; I may happily be in this community > without the whining of adult ppl not being able to cooperate after > agreements. btw bad language is about the only thing gone untried to end this > bs arguments... ...and it should never be tried. Having no idea who is right and who is wrong, by acting like this you make yourself look stupid, arrogant, express your weekness, your inability to solve problems in an adult way. You damage your personal image and the position you are trying to protect in this way. You're just playing against yourself. Not clever. Regards Guennadi --- Guennadi Liakhovetski
Re: 2 Sven & whoever it may concern (most Sven right now)
Børge Holen wrote: > On Tuesday 21 August 2007 23:29, Helmut H. Franke wrote: > >> Børge Holen schrieb am Dienstag, 21. August 2007 um 23:11:32 +0200: >> |JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. >> | >> |2 mails containing shit just today + this one >> >> You happily may unsubscribe if you don't want to receive >> list messages. But please leave us alone with your foul >> language. >> > > spare me stupid remarks, tell you what; I may happily be in this community > without the whining of adult ppl not being able to cooperate after > agreements. btw bad language is about the only thing gone untried to end this > bs arguments... > Stupid remarks? Just consider being called like I am and please read your first email again. Think of it. Seriously. Regards, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 Sven & whoever it may concern (most Sven right now)
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:33:42PM +0200, Børge Holen wrote: > On Tuesday 21 August 2007 23:29, Helmut H. Franke wrote: > > Børge Holen schrieb am Dienstag, 21. August 2007 um 23:11:32 +0200: > > |JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. > > | > > |2 mails containing shit just today + this one > > > > You happily may unsubscribe if you don't want to receive > > list messages. But please leave us alone with your foul > > language. > > spare me stupid remarks, Spare _us_ your senseless remarks, thankyouverymuch. Do as you request yourself. > tell you what; I may happily be in this community without the whining > of adult ppl not being able to cooperate after agreements. And what makes you think such a statement on the _list_ will help with getting things done? If you feel the need to do so send him a private mail, not to the list. In no way your whining is any better. > btw bad language is about the only thing gone untried to end this > bs arguments... NACK, it had been tried. Wake up and check the archives. And it just increases the perception that the Debian community is an unfriendly one, thanks for proving it once again. So long, Rhonda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
