Re: Update on the hfs package

[David VANTYGHEM]

Marco LANDI was born in Italy. He worked at APPLE (he was world 
president) and now lives in France, he invests in artificial intelligence.


https://editions-balland.com/Marco-Landi_auteur_6667.html


Or sending a petition to Apple?

If you have an idea how to do that, I am more than listening.
https://www.change.org? (I don't like these platforms because they use 
and sell our personal data, so if you know a more ethical solution).


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Re: Update on the hfs package

[David VANTYGHEM]

Perhaps asking to Marco LANDI at info AT quest-it.com?

Or sending a petition to Apple?



Le 18/06/2023 à 11:55, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hello!

I have made some more progress on the hfs package to the point that it
now builds fine on Linux. I have not tested the binaries yet, except for
a quick "mkfs.hfsplus" which seemed to work.

All the changes can be found in the "linux" branch in [1]. I have also
added a TODO file for Linux called "TODO.linux" which lists the remaining
work to be done.

Once I have worked through all the TODO items, the next task should be to
thoroughly test the code before submitting updated packages to both Debian
and openSUSE.

As for the licensing question: I have not heard yet back from Apple Legal
yet, unfortunately. However, according to the Wikipedia article on Apple's
APSL license [2], Apple has relicensed some of their APSL-licensed projects
to the Apache License in the past, so there is hope.

I also got some information on the HFS+ utilities developed by Paragon and
it turns out that these unfortunately do not support legacy HFS at all.

So, the best would be that Apple decides to relicense the hfs package to
use the Apache License. If anyone has possible communication channels to
Apple which they can use, please give it a try and see if you can contact
anyone at Apple that could help with the license change.

Thanks,
Adrian


[1]https://github.com/glaubitz/hfs/tree/linux
[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Public_Source_License


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Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2023-06-06

[David VANTYGHEM]

And after, screen remains black before showing desktop -> And after, 
screen remains black instead of showing desktop.




Le 09/06/2023 à 08:11, David VANTYGHEM a écrit :


Hello,

With 
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2023-06-06/debian-12.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso, 
it's the first time I can fully install Debian on my virtual iMac 
G3/G4 in AQUEMU.


But after first reboot, I've got this:

https://transfert.free.fr/9HYVaPB

and then, this:

https://transfert.free.fr/NNwEG48

And after, screen remains black before showing desktop.

I did the installation with these parameters: 
https://infolib.re/Installer_Linux_sur_un_ordinateur_Apple_Macintosh_equipe_d_un_microprocesseur_PowerPC



Le 06/06/2023 à 15:52, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hello!

I have created updated installation images for Debian Ports.

These can be found here:

-https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2023-06-06/

I have already successfully tested the sparc64 installer.

Adrian


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Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2023-06-06

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

With 
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2023-06-06/debian-12.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso, 
it's the first time I can fully install Debian on my virtual iMac G3/G4 
in AQUEMU.


But after first reboot, I've got this:

https://transfert.free.fr/9HYVaPB

and then, this:

https://transfert.free.fr/NNwEG48

And after, screen remains black before showing desktop.

I did the installation with these parameters: 
https://infolib.re/Installer_Linux_sur_un_ordinateur_Apple_Macintosh_equipe_d_un_microprocesseur_PowerPC



Le 06/06/2023 à 15:52, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hello!

I have created updated installation images for Debian Ports.

These can be found here:

-https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2023-06-06/

I have already successfully tested the sparc64 installer.

Adrian


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Re: Installer doesn't find the mirrors

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 09/04/2023 à 23:09, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hello David!

On Apr 9, 2023, at 10:02 PM, David VANTYGHEM 
 wrote:


If someone could help me please. I have no idea of the problem.

Please provide the syslog file that is stored as /var/log/syslog 
during installation. It’s otherwise not possible to debug the problem.


Adrian


They are messages saying that PUBKEYS are not avalaibles.


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Installer doesn't find the mirrors

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I'm trying again to install Debian in a AQEMU virtual machine. I'm using 
this ISO : 
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-12-09/debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso


Installation works until I must choose a mirror. I tried defaults 
mirrors and  http:, ftp.ports.debian.org, /debian-ports/ too but the 
installer can't access to them.


I'm using this AQEMU configuration:

/usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc -monitor stdio -k fr -machine accel=tcg -m 512 
-drive 
file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso",media=cdrom 
-drive 
file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/Debian 
+ LXDE sur iMac G3.vmdk",if=ide,media=disk -boot once=d,menu=on -net 
nic,macaddr=00:e0:4c:2c:09:45,model=rtl8139 -net user -rtc 
base=localtime -name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" -M mac99


If someone could help me please. I have no idea of the problem.

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Re: Installing Debian for PowerPC in Qemu

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello Adrian,

I tried almost all ISO, none is working (installation is OK but not 
first boot).


I will try nexts.


Le 23/01/2023 à 10:34, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hello David!

On 1/23/23 01:06, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
Today, I installed the last version 
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-12-09/debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso 
in a virtual machine with AQEMU. I choosed LXDE.


The installation is working completely now. But the first boot 
doesn't work :


I followed all these steps: 
https://infolib.re/Installer_Linux_sur_un_ordinateur_Apple_Macintosh_equipe_d_un_microprocesseur_PowerPC?


During the partitionning, no HFS partition is created but an ext2 
partition instead.


Please just use an older, known-to-work installation issue.

Due to the complexity of the bootloader setup on PowerMacs, the 
creation of the images
still need some manual intervention and therefore not all images are 
guaranteed to work.


Adrian


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Re: Installing Debian for PowerPC in Qemu

[David VANTYGHEM]

I used this command:




qemu-system-ppc \

-monitor stdio \

-k fr \

-machine accel=tcg \

-m 512 \

-drive 
file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso",if=ide,media=disk 
\


-drive 
file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/Debian 
+ LXDE sur iMac G3.vmdk",if=ide,media=disk \


-boot once=c,menu=on \

-net nic,macaddr=00:e0:4c:2c:09:45,model=rtl8139 \

-net user \

-rtc base=localtime \

-name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" \

-M g3beige

Le 23/01/2023 à 09:35, Dan Whitehouse a écrit :

What command did you use to attempt the install?

I used something like this:

#!/bin/bash

qemu-system-ppc \
   -L pc-bios \
   -boot d \
   -M mac99 \
   -m 2048 \
   -prom-env 'auto-boot?=true' \
   -prom-env 'boot-args=-v' \
   -prom-env 'vga-ndrv?=true' \
   -drive 
file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso,format=raw,media=cdrom
 \
   -drive 
file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/debian_32bit.qcow2,format=qcow2,media=disk \
   -netdev user,id=mynet0,net=192.168.76.0/24,dhcpstart=192.168.76.10 \
   -device sungem,netdev=mynet0 \
   -monitor stdio

I haven’t tried your specific snapshot but the above got me a working install 
on Qemu. It’s extremely slow though and I have no luck getting KVM to work.
My installer is:

Debian GNU/Linux 11.0.0 "Sid" - Unofficial powerpc NETINST with
firmware 20220323-11:37

Thanks,

Dan



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Installing Debian for PowerPC in Qemu

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hi,

Today, I installed the last version 
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-12-09/debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso 
in a virtual machine with AQEMU. I choosed LXDE.


The installation is working completely now. But the first boot doesn't 
work :


I followed all these steps: 
https://infolib.re/Installer_Linux_sur_un_ordinateur_Apple_Macintosh_equipe_d_un_microprocesseur_PowerPC?


During the partitionning, no HFS partition is created but an ext2 
partition instead.


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Re: ATI rage Pro on iMac G3

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 12/09/2022 à 08:57, Riccardo Mottola a écrit :

Hi David,

David VANTYGHEM wrote:

I installed last ISO of Debian for PowerPC. All is fine but screen is
blank, xserver doesn't start. Following Adrian advice, I installed
xserver-xorg-video-r128package but there's no changes. Must I type
something particular after installing this package or must I install
another package ?

does your iMac have a mach64 or mach128 video? (try lspci)



:00:10:0 Display Controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
Rage 4 [Rage 128 PRO AGP 4X]


https://we.tl/t-eTuylBwtlI


Did it work in the past or is this your first install?
Several installations. Never worked before.

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French translation error

[David VANTYGHEM]

In last version of Debian for PowerPC ISO, the french translation 
disappeared in this installation screen :


instead of 
https://infolib.re/storage/files/images/installation%20de%20Debian%20sur%20un%20iMac%20G3_27.png


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Re: ATI rage Pro on iMac G3

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 10/09/2022 à 11:45, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hi David!

On 9/9/22 18:58, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

I installed last ISO of Debian for PowerPC. All is fine but screen is
blank, xserver doesn't start. Following Adrian advice, I installed
xserver-xorg-video-r128package but there's no changes. Must I type
something particular after installing this package or must I install
another package ?


Please provide the log files from the installation which can be found
in /var/log/installer.

Also, please provide the log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log.



Hi Adrian,

Thank you !

I can't mount USB key on my iMac (mount -t ext4 /dev/sbd /mnt makes 
errors) so I installed Midnight Commander and used FTP. Log files are 
here : http://www.education.free.fr/a/


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ATI rage Pro on iMac G3

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I installed last ISO of Debian for PowerPC. All is fine but screen is 
blank, xserver doesn't start. Following Adrian advice, I installed 
xserver-xorg-video-r128package but there's no changes. Must I type 
something particular after installing this package or must I install 
another package ?


Many thanks for your help

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Repository

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

Which repository do one must use now to install debian? 
ftp.ports.debian.org or default deb.debian.org?


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Re: Boot fails

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 11/08/2022 à 17:44, Ben Westover a écrit :

David,

On August 11, 2022 11:40:37 AM EDT, David 
VANTYGHEM  wrote:

It has been in Debian for decades…

No, it has been removed because too old and not maintained.

Do you think it has been added again by Adrian?

https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2020/05/msg00156.html

https://packages.debian.org/sid/xserver-xorg-video-r128
The email you sent is two years old and says it will be re-added "soon". As you 
can see, the package is alive and well.


I used ftp.ports.debian.org, perhaps I should better use deb.debian.org 
to have the ATI 128 driver.


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Re: Boot fails

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 07/08/2022 à 06:30, Ben Westover a écrit :

On 8/6/22 17:41, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

I've got 128 MB RAM, the standard RAM on this model.


That's probably not enough. When I got my iMac G3, it had 128 MBs in 
it, and Arch would not boot, same error. I never tried Debian back 
then, but after a RAM upgrade both Arch and Debian booted fine.




I upgraded RAM to 1 Go and it's booting now. Thank you for your help.

I installed Debian, all is OK, excepted with ATI128, Xorg doesn't start.

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Re: Boot fails

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 06/08/2022 à 23:30, Ben Westover a écrit :

Hello David,

On August 6, 2022 2:06:41 PM EDT, David VANTYGHEM  
wrote:

I've got this error :https://ibb.co/tLfS8np

Is it a problem with my DVD?

How much RAM do you have installed? This message implies that you either don't 
have enough RAM or the RAM is malfunctioning.

--
Ben Westover


I've got 128 MB RAM, the standard RAM on this model.

It would be interesting to add the new version of Memtest86+ in GRUB 
menu, so one could test the RAM at boot, like with some other distros 
(Linux Mint...).


https://www.memtest.org


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Older PHP Versions

[David Brown]

New to posting here, so please excuse my dumb questions. I finally got Debian 
working on my Powermac G5. Since it appears this is bleeding edge version (SID) 
it installed PHP 8.1. I have apps that will not run on that php version. Is 
there any archive(?) available to download and install an older php version? 
Why is there there not a “stable” version available? Thanks for the efforts to 
keep Debian available for this old hardware. Dave

Re: Request for a once-montly PowerPC for Apple Systems FAQ?

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

Wiki like https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/ordinateur_compatible_ubuntu is 
convenient to make a documentation but normal users will not participate 
because of wiki syntax.


I'm working on this project: https://framagit.org/InfoLibre/rapido

The goal of Rapido is to have the same thing than with DokuWiki but 
without wiki or markdown syntax.


If you are interested about, I need help to code and translate.



Le 31/01/2022 à 17:30, Ken Cunningham a écrit :

You'd be perfect, Jeff, if you have the inclination.


Thing is, you could write it, Adrian could do a few technical 
corrections when he has time if he sees something glaring go past, and 
we would all see it go by once a month and could chime in with tweaks 
we discovered, if useful.



I suspect we'd all learn something in the process.

Ken


On 2022-01-31 08:16, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 11:09 AM Ken Cunningham
 wrote:

Thanks.

I’m in great shape, everything running fairly well on my machines.

But most people have no idea even what boot iso to use, it seems, 
from the 1,200 questions over and over and over about it on the 
Linux on PowerPC Macs facebook group (and the 1,199 wrong answers :> ).


Perhaps someone with writing skills and interest might be 
interested, in time.

I'd be happy to help with writing. I enjoy writing docs for some reason.

I think the problem is, Debian does not have a good strategy for
dissemination of long term information for PowerPC. They have a wiki
but there's little information about PowerPC. Instead, Debian places
the long term information on static web pages that are woefully out of
date. No one can edit the web pages except Debian admins, and they
don't do it. (I tried to get them to update it a couple of years ago.
It went nowhere).

A FAQ might be a good first step to triage the problem.

But as Adrian points out, the people with the access and the knowledge
don't have time to tend to it. That problem begs a crowd source
solution like a wiki. But then we are back to the problem of using
static web pages instead of a wiki.

Information management is hard.

Jeff



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Numeric pad is inverted when filling the machine name during installation

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I don't know if it is a bug but when VerrNum is active (and its LED is 
on), I can't write "iMac-G3" as a machine name but only "iMac-G", 
numbers are not accessibles on the numeric pad, it's inverted :


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Re: Linux firmware package?

[David VANTYGHEM]

Well, I'm sorry but that's just how things are. I don't have the super power
to make all necessary changes in Debian myself.


You have a lot of super power on powerpc 


  If you want better support
for Debian Ports, raise your voice on the debian-devel mailing list.

Adrian


Could we have a resume of all things that don't work because of Debian ? 
So, we could each of us ask help about it on the debian-devel list.


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Re: GRUB installation fails on latest ISO

[David VANTYGHEM]

Good idea.


Le 19/09/2021 à 03:11, Jeffrey Walton a écrit :

On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 6:54 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 wrote:

On 9/19/21 00:24, Alex McKeever wrote:

I just tried installing the latest version of Debian Ports on my iMac G3
and well it fails to install GRUB. Falling back to April’s installation
media (which I have on hand) that doesn’t have this problem that has seemingly
cropped up again with the latest batch of images.

Yes, that image doesn't work. The previous image does work, however.

The reason why the current image doesn't work is because it does not contain a
manually build debian-installer package which is currently necessary because
the hfsprogs-udeb [1] package has not been accepted into unstable yet.

So, please use the powerpc and ppc64 images from [2].


[1] https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/hfsprogs_540.1.linux3-5.html
[2] https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-04-17/

Have you considered running a repo with the fixes that Debian does not
pick up or provide in a timely manner?

There's little sense waiting for Debian since Debian is the barrier in
the process. If Debian did not want to be a barrier, then they would
have done something by now. It probably won't change anytime soon.

A repo run by you to work around Debian's issues seems like a perfect
fix. You are active in the development and you are aware of the open
issues that need to be worked around.

A repo run by you would probably reduce mailing list messages since
things would start to "just work", which is what most users want.

Adding a repo to sources.list or apt.conf.d is really easy. Once a
user is aware they need to do it, there should be no more problems due
to packages and availability.

Jeff


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Re: Linux firmware package?

[David VANTYGHEM]

We need to add it manually or it could be added in the installation ISO ?

None of the ISO I tested works at 100% on iMac G3 or in qemu.



Le 19/09/2021 à 10:19, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hello!

On 9/19/21 02:40, Alex McKeever wrote:

I went to install Xserver-xorg-video-r128 and it recommended that I
install the Linux firmware package, which doesn’t exist in the ports
repository.

Any idea where I should look to get said package? It’s been a while since
I last installed Debian ports.

You need to add contrib and non-free to your sources.list for arch=all:

deb [arch=all] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable contrib non-free

See: https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/sources.list

Adrian


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NumLock is inverted during installation

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I don't know if it's a bug but NumLock is inverted during installation. 
NumLock LED is on but I can't write numbers on numeric pad. I must 
switch off NumLock LED to write the machine name ("iMac-G3" instead of 
"iMac-G").


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Installation works

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I installed last version 
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-04-17/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso 
on my old grey iMac G3 
(https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_dv_se_500.html) and 
it works well. There's only xserver that doesn't start but I will try 
again when ATI Rage 128 card driver will be add again in Debian


Thank you all for your help and thank you Adrian for your impressive Work.

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BootX documentation

[David VANTYGHEM]

Perhaps any interesting things in this file ?

https://opensource.apple.com/source/bless/bless-37/README.BOOTING

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Re: Updated installer images 2021-04-16

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 16/04/2021 à 14:00, Johannes Brakensiek a écrit :

Hey David,

On 16 Apr 2021, at 13:56, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

In english : The boot partition isn't the first primary partition on 
the disk. This is necessary to boot the machine. Please restart and 
use the first primary partition as boot partition.


If you don't come back to the partition menu to modify this default, 
the partition will be used as this. It means that you will probably 
not be able to start from the hard disk.


Coming to the menu and modify this default ?


please read the mails Adrian is writing. That’s not an error message. 
You are supposed to say „Non“ at that point. It is going to work 
nontheless.


Johannes

Aaahh, OK. It's at this place. I thought it was another problem because 
the error message is different in this new ISO file.


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Re: Updated installer images 2021-04-16

[David VANTYGHEM]

I tried a new installation with 14/04 ISO file, default installation, 
whole disk and only one partition (no /home partition). I've got this 
error message at the end :



Then I'm trying with today ISO file and now, the installations fails here :

In english : The boot partition isn't the first primary partition on the 
disk. This is necessary to boot the machine. Please restart and use the 
first primary partition as boot partition.


If you don't come back to the partition menu to modify this default, the 
partition will be used as this. It means that you will probably not be 
able to start from the hard disk.


Coming to the menu and modify this default ?


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Network

[David VANTYGHEM]

Perhaps I had a problem with my network configuration in qemu.

Sorry for the noise.

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Can't reach ftp.ports.debian.org

[David VANTYGHEM]

Trying to do another installation. After choosing LXDE, I can't reach 
ftp.ports.debian.org server from qemu (but my network is working well). 
I had this error too yesterday. Sometimes, the installation goes until 
the end, sometimes, it fails :


A problem with the server ?

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Re: Current status on grub-installer on PowerMac

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 16/04/2021 à 08:48, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

On 4/16/21 8:39 AM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:

https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/libdebian-installer/-/blob/master/src/system/subarch-powerpc-linux.c

Here's what I get for the QEMU machines:

The interesting part will be to see what arch-detect prints out in the
installer. You can just run it from a second terminal. If it doesn't
detect a newworld machine, GRUB installation won't work.

Adrian


I don't have arch-detect but a archdetect command :

# archdetect

powerpc/powermac_newworld

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Re: Current status on grub-installer on PowerMac

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 16/04/2021 à 08:04, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

On 4/16/21 7:56 AM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

Inded, I don't have the HFS partition too.

Then the emulation is not behaving as a real machine.

QEMU needs display the right information below /proc/cpuinfo:


https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/libdebian-installer/-/blob/master/src/system/subarch-powerpc-linux.c

Adrian


Under QEMU, my machine is :

https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/YT77NWCuXe-1Zei6sAam49SS/

(pcmacgeneration : NewWorld)

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Re: Current status on grub-installer on PowerMac

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 16/04/2021 à 01:27, Mark Cave-Ayland a écrit :

On 15/04/2021 20:54, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:

OK, I was already wondering about that. grub-install contains a 
bless utility

and function only, but not something for the UNIX filetype.

Question: If the blessing is sufficient and the setting of the 
filetype not necessary,
   why does grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub (with 
that being an HFS

   filesystem) not create a working boot partition?


Yeah. From what I can see from links [1] and [2] I'd expect this to 
be working now. Let me run an install of the latest ISO here, since 
then I can then use a debugger on QEMU/OpenBIOS to find out what the 
problem may be.


After a bit of fiddling I was eventually able to get a bootable HD 
install under qemu-system-ppc using your snapshot image. The command 
line I used was:


./qemu-system-ppc -hda deb10.qcow2 -cdrom 
debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso -boot d -m 512 -nographic


The main problem I found was that starting from a blank drive image in 
QEMU the /boot/grub HFS partition wasn't being created - see the 
attached PNGs where part-original.png is the layout from the default 
guided installation and part-modified.png is after I had manually 
removed the / partition, added the /boot/grub HFS partition (I guess a 
32MB size?) and then assigned the remaining space to the / partition 
once again.


Once this was done, I let the base install run all the way up until 
the point where the installer prompted me for the mirror information. 
At this point I didn't want to install any extra packages to help save 
time, so instead went back to the installer menu and then went 
directly to the grub installation step. That appeared to succeed 
without any error messages, so then finished the installer and rebooted.


Unfortunately the resulting HD image would not boot. I could see the 
contents of the /boot/grub partition in OpenBIOS with "dir hd:,\" and 
after a few tests realised I was able to boot the grub ELF directly 
using "boot hd:3,\grub".


Once in the installed image I noticed that the 
/boot/grub/System/Library/CoreServices/ directory didn't exist, 
possibly because I skipped the installer between the mirror selection 
and the grub installation? However at this point I was able to install 
hfsutils by hand using "apt-get install hfsutils" which then allowed 
me to do the following:


# grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub/

(this installed /boot/grub/System/Library/CoreServices/BootX which was 
missing before?)


# umount /boot/grub/
# hmount /dev/sda3
Volume name is "untitled"
Volume was created on Thu Apr 15 20:51:52 2021
Volume was last modified on Thu Apr 15 21:48:40 2021
Volume has 22705664 bytes free
root@debian:/boot# hls
fonts grub.cfg  locale powerpc-ieee1275
grub  grubenv   mach_kernel   System
# hattrib -b :System:Library:CoreServices
# hattrib -c chrp -t tbxi :System:Library:CoreServices:BootX
# hls -l :System:Library:CoreServices:BootX
f  tbxi/chrp 0 16632 Apr 15 22:53 
:System:Library:CoreServices:BootX

# humount
# shutdown -h now

After that I was able to reboot successfully by switching 
qemu-system-ppc to boot from the HD using -boot c instead:


./qemu-system-ppc -hda deb10.qcow2 -cdrom 
debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso -boot c -m 512 -nographic



ATB,

Mark.


Inded, I don't have the HFS partition too.

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Re: APT and APT-Get unable to fetch packages.

[David VANTYGHEM]

I'm using ftp.ports.debian.org, not deb.debian.org

deb.debian.org should work too ?


Le 15/04/2021 à 23:59, Alex McKeever a écrit :

Literally, I’m able to search packages on the repository just fine but it refuses 
to fetch anything. Pinging Deb.Debian.org results in “temporary failure in name 
resolution” and my iMac was able to fetch packages just fine during install of the 
system. I used a wireless dongle (Realtek 8192CU based) as I don’t have any 
Ethernet jacks wired up (thanks AT for unhooking them for “stability 
reasons”... not!)

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:35 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
 wrote:

On 4/15/21 11:05 PM, Alex McKeever wrote:

The install image was able to fetch packages during the installation fine but 
not now.

You will need to provide an error message otherwise it's not possible
to find out what the problem is.

Does your network connection work?

Adrian

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Re: Update Debian Ports installation images 2021-04-14

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 15/04/2021 à 18:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

On 4/15/21 6:40 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

I've got a real grey G3, this model : 
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_dv_se_500.html#macspecs1

Well, that's not a beige G3 but an iMac which is newer.

A beige G3 is this: 
https://512pixels.net/2012/04/old-mac-of-the-month-beige-powermac-g3/


I want to emulate it with qemu before installing Debian on it. Perhaps I should 
use another option ?

Try changing the emulation to a newer machine type such as the iMac.


Indeed, I must use -M mac99 option. I'm trying another installation...

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Re: Update Debian Ports installation images 2021-04-14

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 15/04/2021 à 18:21, Stan Johnson a écrit :

Hello David,

On 4/15/21 10:07 AM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

Le 15/04/2021 à 18:01, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :



On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:56 PM, David VANTYGHEM
 wrote:


Try:

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has
been set by load or init-program

boot hd:1,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has
been set by load or init-program

boot hd:0,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> nothing happens and
in the AQEMU serial console, I've got this message : Not a bootable
ELF image


How did you boot the installation ISO? The installed system should be
booted exactly the same way provided that you PowerMac emulation is
accurate.

Adrian

To install Debian, I boot from the installation ISO file, mounted on a
virtual CDROM : /usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc \

-monitor stdio \

...

-name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" \

-M g3beige
...

I don't know anything about the emulator that you are using, but a
PowerMac G3 Beige system is an OldWorld PowerMac, despite the fact that
it has an early version of Open Firmware. A real-hardware G3 Beige
system requires BootX to boot Linux (it can't use Yaboot or GRUB). On a
side note, the first NewWorld PowerMac, the Lombard G3 PowerBook, also
apparently can't use GRUB because its Open Firmware is too old (though
Yaboot works ok on this system).

If that information is not relevant here, please disregard.

-Stan Johnson

I've got a real grey G3, this model : 
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_dv_se_500.html#macspecs1


I want to emulate it with qemu before installing Debian on it. Perhaps I 
should use another option ?



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Re: Update Debian Ports installation images 2021-04-14

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 15/04/2021 à 17:20, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :



On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:17 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
 wrote:





On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:14 PM, David VANTYGHEM 
 wrote:


I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the installation works 
well until the end. But after the first reboot, Debian doesn't start 
: https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/


That’s because your emulator doesn’t support NVRAM emulation. You 
have to boot from harddisk manually.


Try:

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX


boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has been 
set by load or init-program


boot hd:1,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has been 
set by load or init-program


boot hd:0,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> nothing happens and in 
the AQEMU serial console, I've got this message : Not a bootable ELF image



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Re: Update Debian Ports installation images 2021-04-14

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the installation works well 
until the end. But after the first reboot, Debian doesn't start : 
https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/



Le 14/04/2021 à 22:43, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hi!

Here are the first test images where the installation of GRUB on PowerMacs
should finally work properly [1]. It took me quite some time and effort with
lots of testing to get the implementation right.

During the partitioning phase, the installer will pop up an empty question
dialog. Just answer that dialog with "" to continue. After that, the
installation should complete normally.

The installer now also correctly installs a boot script with an icon that
should show up in the OpenFirmware boot menu that can be invoked with the
 key after the machine has been powered on.

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes for
the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most people for
the time being.

If it doesn't work, remember I need the installation log located in /var/log
as the file "syslog".

Thanks,
Adrian


[1] https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-04-14/


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Re: Installation fails with openbios-ppc-grubfix

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 12/04/2021 à 21:24, Mark Cave-Ayland a écrit :

On 09/04/2021 14:07, David VANTYGHEM wrote:


Hello,

I installed 
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-02-02/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso 
in AQEMU.


I'm using ftp.ports.debian.org miror and openbios-ppc-grubfix : 
http://dl.free.fr/wklzUghQX


At the end of the installation, I've got this error : 
http://dl.free.fr/vOgyTknrS


It seems that Linux caan't find grub-ieee1275_2.04-17_powerpc.deb : 
http://dl.free.fr/mSi7Kq1Tr


Is it a missing package or should I use another BIOS with AQEMU ?


Why are you still using openbios-ppc-grubfix? That download was only 
for testing the proposed fix which was merged into OpenBIOS not long 
after. I'd recommend that you download and install the latest QEMU 5.2 
to ensure that you have all the latest fixes and that your QEMU and 
OpenBIOS are compatible.



ATB,

Mark.



Hello, I tried with this BIOS file because I'm using QEMU 4.2.1. I will 
try with new version of Linux Mint, thank you for your help.


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Installation fails with openbios-ppc-grubfix

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I installed 
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-02-02/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso 
in AQEMU.


I'm using ftp.ports.debian.org miror and openbios-ppc-grubfix : 
http://dl.free.fr/wklzUghQX


At the end of the installation, I've got this error : 
http://dl.free.fr/vOgyTknrS


It seems that Linux caan't find grub-ieee1275_2.04-17_powerpc.deb : 
http://dl.free.fr/mSi7Kq1Tr


Is it a missing package or should I use another BIOS with AQEMU ?

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Donations

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello Adrain,

I made a new donation to PayPal account glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de 



If you need more donations to buy necessary computers, I can send a 
message to any french free software mailing lists.


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Re: Donations

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 06/03/2021 à 20:51, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
I'll check eBay what machines I can find and then I'll pick one. I can 
also check

the French auction site you linked earlier, although I don't have any experience
with this site and no idea whether they will ship to Germany.
With leboncoin.fr, you can ship until 30 kg by 
https://www.mondialrelay.fr from https://www.ottogroup.com


Sometimes, it costs only 0,99 €.

We are not in a hurry, take your time during holidays.

If donations are bigger than necessary, I will refund the remaining 
amount to donators or I will give it to you, donators will choose.


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Re: Donations

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 06/03/2021 à 17:38, Jeffrey Walton a écrit :

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 5:42 AM David VANTYGHEM
 wrote:

Hello,

I received a first donation, thank you. Don't forgot to add your name when you 
make a donation, or blank if you want to remain anonymous. I will send the list 
of donors to Adrian.

https://www.paypal.com/pools/c/88pAczImZt

Good news. The donations are up to €100.00. (Thanks KS).

Could you let us know if that is enough, or do you need more?

Jeff


Adrian,

When you will have free time, could you say me if one of the model I 
proposed to buy is good or if I must look for another ?


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Re: Donations

[David VANTYGHEM]

Could someone send me a picture of the G3 beige model ?


Le 05/03/2021 à 12:17, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hello!

On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:42 AM, David VANTYGHEM 
 wrote:


I received a first donation, thank you. Don't forgot to add your 
name when you make a donation, or blank if you want to remain 
anonymous. I will send the list of donors to Adrian.


https://www.paypal.com/pools/c/88pAczImZt



Thanks for the support!

Since original discussion evolved around the G3 beige model, I would 
prefer if the community found a cheap G3 beige model to work on for me.


Also, the G3 beige tower takes less space as compared to the iMac.

Would that be ok?

Adrian


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Donations

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I received a first donation, thank you. Don't forgot to add your name 
when you make a donation, or blank if you want to remain anonymous. I 
will send the list of donors to Adrian.


https://www.paypal.com/pools/c/88pAczImZt

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Re: Latest unstable on Beige G3

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 13/02/2021 à 10:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hello Lee!

On 2/13/21 1:41 AM, Lee Cremeans wrote:

* The current builds of the unstable installer are not usable on an
OldWorld Mac (including my Beige) because unstable no longer ships quik. I
understand the newer images ship GRUB, and I'm wondering just how hard it'd
be to get an OldWorld machine to boot an ELF GRUB, if an XCOFF GRUB is out
of the question; I've looked at the GRUB source but they're complex enough
that I haven't found the magic words to change the GRUB image type.

I'm confident that we would be able to find a solution for OldWorld systems,
but I currently don't have the time and resources to work on this particular
problem.

I also don't have access to these machines at the moment, so if someone is
willing to donate a G3 so that I can work on this particular hardware at
some point, feel free to send me an email.

Adrian


Hello,

I propose to buy this imac and to send it to Adrian :

https://www.leboncoin.fr/consoles_jeux_video/1517770510.htm?ac=206978287

You can make a donation at https://www.paypal.com/pools/c/88pAczImZt , 
the goal is 32 € + 30 € (https://www.mondialrelay.fr/envoi-de-colis/ to 
Berlin)


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PowerPC

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

To install debian for PowerPC, I must choose deb.debian.org and 
/debian-ports/, insn't it ?


I've got errors :

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Re: ISO repository

[David VANTYGHEM]

Thank you. I was looking for last ISO.

Indeed, they are at https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/


Le 20/10/2020 à 19:17, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> Hello David!
>
> On 10/20/20 6:57 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>> Hello,It seems that the repository for PowerPC ISO disapperead.
> It's been archived as "powerpc" is no longer a release architecture.
>
> You can still find the old images here [1] and the Debian Ports images here 
> [2].
>
> Adrian
>
>> [1] https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/
>> [2] https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/

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ISO repository

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,It seems that the repository for PowerPC ISO disapperead.

https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst

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Re: Debian installation

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 15/09/2020 à 19:45, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> Hi!
>
> On 9/15/20 5:17 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>> I tried to install the last ISO
>> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2020-08-19/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso
>> in AQEMU.
>>
>> The installation is stopping at this step :
>> https://drop.infini.fr/r/PNcPNN1emh#LmOhkjwaAKXPesZnAix/m8SJNUnGArpk9Ncgf0D3vTA=
> Please run the installation in English, I don't speak French so I can't 
> understand
> the error messages (or have to guess their meanings).
>
> Also, please provide the installation log as a screen that's just frozen 
> isn't of
> any help. And I need to know what installation type you chose.
>
> I will perform a test installation myself on SPARC to see if it hangs for me.
>
> Adrian

In english, the message is :

Starting partitionning tool

Disks analyzing...

I chose expert installation and normal default installation. It's
blocked in both cases.

I don't know how to copy log files as netcat failed with AQEMU. If you
know another tool I could use...

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Debian installation

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I tried to install the last ISO
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2020-08-19/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso
in AQEMU.

The installation is stopping at this step :
https://drop.infini.fr/r/PNcPNN1emh#LmOhkjwaAKXPesZnAix/m8SJNUnGArpk9Ncgf0D3vTA=

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Re: Lost mail

[David VANTYGHEM]

I did not keep the mail and the file :o(


Le 25/07/2020 à 21:31, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> Hello!
>
> On 7/25/20 3:43 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>> *Taille*:635,38 KB
> The attachment was probably too large. Try compressing it with gzip
> which should have a good compression ratio for plaintext.
>
> Adrian
>
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Greylist

[David VANTYGHEM]

Does Debian server use this greylist
http://postgrey.schweikert.ch/help/lists.debian.org.html ?

*Événement*:defer 
*Utilisateur*:  numopenf
*Domaine*:  infolib.re
*Adresse de l’expéditeur*:  david.vantyg...@infolib.re
*Expéditeur*:   david.vantyg...@infolib.re
*Heure d’envoi*:17 juil. 2020 à 18:35:18
*Hôte de l’expéditeur*: lfbn-ncy-1-7-156.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr
*Adresse IP de l’expéditeur*:   83.194.103.156
*Authentification*: dovecot_plain
*Score spam*:   
*Destinataire*: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
*Nom d’utilisateur du destinataire*:-system-
*Domaine de remise*:
*Remis à*:  
*Routeur*:  dkim_lookuphost
*Transfert*:dkim_remote_smtp
*Heure de réception*:   17 juil. 2020 à 18:35:18
*ID*:   1jwTKW-0004N5-R2
*Hôte de remise*:   bendel.debian.org
*Adresse IP de remise*: 82.195.75.100
*Taille*:   6,4 KB
*Résultat*: SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT
TO:: 450 4.2.0
: Recipient address rejected:
Greylisted, see http://postgrey.schweikert.ch/help/lists.debian.org.html


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Lost mail

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

Yesterday, I posted a message on this list, with a joined
/var/log/system file.

But I don't see my message on
https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2020/07/maillist.html

Did someone received it ?

I asked to my mail server maintenair, the message was correctly sent, it
seems that the debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org list lost it :

*Événement*:success 
*Utilisateur*:  numopenf
*Domaine*:  infolib.re
*Adresse de l’expéditeur*:  david.vantyg...@infolib.re
*Expéditeur*:   david.vantyg...@infolib.re
*Heure d’envoi*:24 juil. 2020 à 21:44:21
*Hôte de l’expéditeur*: lfbn-ncy-1-7-156.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr
*Adresse IP de l’expéditeur*:   83.194.103.156
*Authentification*: dovecot_plain
*Score spam*:   
*Destinataire*: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
*Nom d’utilisateur du destinataire*:-remote-
*Domaine de remise*:
*Remis à*:  debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
*Routeur*:  dkim_lookuphost
*Transfert*:dkim_remote_smtp
*Heure de réception*:   24 juil. 2020 à 21:45:21
*ID*:   1jz3co-0005xu-3Y
*Hôte de remise*:   bendel.debian.org
*Adresse IP de remise*: 82.195.75.100
*Taille*:   635,38 KB
*Résultat*: Accepté


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Re: GRUB doesn't install

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 22/07/2020 à 18:01, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> On 7/22/20 6:00 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>> I dont know how to :o(
>>
>> I tried to mount a local shared folder with 9P but it doesn't work. I'm
>> trying to copy it by FTP with mc but mc doesn't start (strange because I
>> can install it with apt-install mc).
> Use scp.
>
> Adrian
>
apt-install refused to install mc or scp or anything, saying apt-install
is already running or something like it.

I went to the end of the installation and... the VM rebooted.

Sorry, but I'm giving up.

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Re: GRUB doesn't install

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 22/07/2020 à 17:57, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> On 7/22/20 5:35 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>> Ask me if you need lines before.
> Can you please send the whole log file? Having to ask you
> for every line is not helpful.
>
I dont know how to :o(

I tried to mount a local shared folder with 9P but it doesn't work. I'm
trying to copy it by FTP with mc but mc doesn't start (strange because I
can install it with apt-install mc).

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Re: GRUB doesn't install

[David VANTYGHEM]

> If that doesn't work either, go back to the main menu after the installation 
> has
> failed and then go to "Execute a shell" and access the syslog this way.

Aaaah ! I did not understand and see this option in the menu. Thank you.

A screenshot of the last lines in /var/log/system :
https://drop.infini.fr/r/jEkYMhh6_J#mY0pv8yxJ47Ny535epJMBur7ChbbI/F52BzefLTtJCk=

Ask me if you need lines before.

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Impossible to reach debain-port

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

Each time I install Debian, the installer fails to reach the mirror. I
try sevral times and then it works.

But today, impossible to continue :

https://catdrop.drycat.fr/r/t1sUahr9#VkWjhjMWWrxFmsbCqLCRiep6L47Z/6OKmpJLAoWyBUo=

https://catdrop.drycat.fr/r/3guSqIYB#7auu8hvPbz4uyJbXrOwy9grrWSyCEpaNaEeleG0AKZI=

Must I wait and try again or must I do a new install ?

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Re: GRUB doesn't install

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 22/07/2020 à 08:51, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> On 7/22/20 8:43 AM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>> Alt+Function Keys don't work in AQEMU.
> Then run the installation through a virtual serial console. This allows you
> switch to different screens (i.e. from GNU screen) using Ctrl+a+p.
>
> Even though I have a hard time believing that you can't use Alt+Function Keys
> in your emulation. You should look into fixing the keyboard configuration 
> then.
>
> If that doesn't work either, go back to the main menu after the installation 
> has
> failed and then go to "Execute a shell" and access the syslog this way.
>
>> I tried to mount the qcow image, it failed. I tried to boot Debian installed
>> in the VM with -append root= -kernel -initrd options as explained here
>> https://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34=10736=67023#p67023
> It's not in the image, it's a RAM file system.
>
> Please understand that it's not possible to help you without a log file.
>
> Adrian

I found something that could work. I started my VM with *-monitor stdio*
option and then I had the qemu shell. With the qemu command *sendkey
ctrl-alt-f2*, *sendkey ctrl-alt-f1*, I can switch to terminal in VM. I
make a new install, result in a few hours maybe...


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Re: GRUB doesn't install

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 22/07/2020 à 08:34, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> On 7/22/20 7:13 AM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>> Hello, I have another message before GRUB fails to install :
>> https://catdrop.drycat.fr/r/UheCT4A9#k87hxx5VOwuzHT12nKCWTdVO89cfLUXAaE3y8uNVhU4=
> As I have said, I neither speak French nor can I help you if I don't
> have a log file.
>
> Please run the installation in English and please copy /var/log/syslog
> of the installer system and attach it to this bug report.
>
> You can access the virtual consoles with Alt+Function Keys, then copy
> the syslog using SCP.
>
> Adrian

Alt+Function Keys don't work in AQEMU. I tried to mount the qcow image,
it failed. I tried to boot Debian installed in the VM with -append root=
-kernel -initrd options as explained here
https://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34=10736=67023#p67023
but it failed because I don't know the names of the files (vmlinuz ?
init.img ?) and where they are (/dev/sda2 for /boot, /dev/sda3 for / ?).

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Re: GRUB doesn't install

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 20/07/2020 à 18:32, Dennis Clarke a écrit :
> On 7/20/20 4:22 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 5:55 PM, David VANTYGHEM  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I suppose you need /var/log/syslog of Linux I'm installing in the
>>> virtual computer, isn't it ?
>> I need the log of the Linux system running *inside* the VM that gets created 
>> *while* the installation was running.
>>
>> When you boot the installer, it will actually boot a Linux live system and 
>> that system logs to /var/log/syslog in the installer’s system environment.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
> I will try to re-create the problem here and get everything for you also.
>
> Dennis


Hello, I have another message before GRUB fails to install :
https://catdrop.drycat.fr/r/UheCT4A9#k87hxx5VOwuzHT12nKCWTdVO89cfLUXAaE3y8uNVhU4=

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Re: GRUB doesn't install

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 20/07/2020 à 17:51, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
>
>
>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 5:21 PM, David VANTYGHEM
>>  wrote:
>>
>> For /var/log/syslog, I don't know how to catch it. I can't boot the
>> virtual machine as GRUB did not install. I tried to mount the qcow2
>> image with libqcow-utils but it did not work. I will make a new
>> installation (3-4 hours) if I find how to catch the log.
>>
> You are misunderstanding. This is about providing /var/log/syslog
> while the installation is running.
>
> Adrian


I suppose you need /var/log/syslog of Linux I'm installing in the
virtual computer, isn't it ? Not /var/log/syslog of my computer that is
running qemu.

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Re: GRUB doesn't install

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 20/07/2020 à 17:27, Dennis Clarke a écrit :
> On 7/20/20 3:21 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>> Le 20/07/2020 à 15:18, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
>>> On 7/20/20 12:57 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>>>> and at the end of the installation, GRUB doesn't install :
>>>> http://dl.free.fr/jG1llNJtk
>>> I don't speak French, so a French error message won't help much.
>>>
>>> Also, I need the contents of /var/log/syslog, as this message basically
>>> just says that the GRUB installation failed.
>>>
>>> I also need to know which image was used and what the machine configuration
>>> was.
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>> The image is this :
>> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2020-05-30/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso
>>
> This may not be helpful but I installed that exact image into real G5
> hardware and it worked great.  I am not sure what qemu does from a
> firmware perspective but I also have ppc64le running with qemu and it
> runs great.
>
> Something fishy about qemu here.
>
> I did a build of the qemu from sources :
>
> styx$ /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-ppc64 --version
> QEMU emulator version 5.0.50 (v5.0.0-2005-geb6490f544-dirty)
> Copyright (c) 2003-2020 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project developers
> styx$
>
> That thing runs great.
>
> What qemu are you running?
>
>

$ qemu-system-ppc -version
QEMU emulator version 4.2.0 (Debian 1:4.2-3ubuntu6.3)
Copyright (c) 2003-2019 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project developers

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Re: GRUB doesn't install

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 20/07/2020 à 15:18, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> On 7/20/20 12:57 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>> and at the end of the installation, GRUB doesn't install :
>> http://dl.free.fr/jG1llNJtk
> I don't speak French, so a French error message won't help much.
>
> Also, I need the contents of /var/log/syslog, as this message basically
> just says that the GRUB installation failed.
>
> I also need to know which image was used and what the machine configuration
> was.
>
> Adrian
>
The image is this :
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2020-05-30/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso

And I'm using this BIOS :
https://www.ilande.co.uk/tmp/qemu/openbios-ppc-grubfix

The machine configuration is :

/usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc \

-monitor stdio \

-M mac99 \

-k fr \

-machine accel=tcg \

-m 512 \

-cdrom /home/david/Bureau/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso \

-hda /home/david/Documents/Informatique et téléphone/Documentation
informatique/Macintosh/Debian_10_LXDE \

-virtfs
local,id=shared_folder_dev_0,path=/home/david/Bureau,security_model=none,mount_tag=shared0
\

-boot once=c,menu=on \

-net nic,macaddr=00:a2:6d:80:10:8f,model=rtl8139 \

-net user \

-net user,smb=/home/david/Bureau \

-rtc base=localtime \

-name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" \

-bios /home/david/Bureau/openbios-ppc-grubfix

For /var/log/syslog, I don't know how to catch it. I can't boot the
virtual machine as GRUB did not install. I tried to mount the qcow2
image with libqcow-utils but it did not work. I will make a new
installation (3-4 hours) if I find how to catch the log.

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GRUB doesn't install

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

With the new OpenBIOS that mark send to us, I installed completely
Debian with qemu but I still have the same error message
http://dl.free.fr/tqJxHGpxW

and at the end of the installation, GRUB doesn't install :
http://dl.free.fr/jG1llNJtk

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Re: Can't boot with qemu

[David VANTYGHEM]

Yes it works !

I tried the latest version (2020-05-30) with this command line :

qemu-system-ppc -monitor stdio -M mac99 -k en -machine accel=tcg -m 512
-cdrom /home/david/Bureau/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso -hda
/home/david/Documents/Informatique\ et\ téléphone/Documentation\
informatique/Macintosh/Debian_10_LXDE -virtfs
local,id=shared_folder_dev_0,path=/home/david/Bureau,security_model=none,mount_tag=shared0
-boot order=dc,menu=on -net nic,macaddr=00:a2:6d:80:10:8f,model=rtl8139
-net user -net user,smb=/home/david/Bureau -rtc base=localtime -name
"Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" -bios /home/david/Bureau/openbios-ppc-grubfix



Le 19/07/2020 à 14:55, Howard Spoelstra a écrit :
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 2:21 PM Mark Cave-Ayland
> mailto:mark.cave-ayl...@ilande.co.uk>>
> wrote:
>
> On 19/07/2020 10:37, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>
> >> I did a comparison with a couple of DT dumps I have around and
> I see some Old World
> >> Macs reserve up until 0x4000 and some New World Macs reserve up
> to 0x3000 in low
> >> memory, so I don't think this change should break anything. I
> should add from looking
> >> at the MMU translations I think this bug has been around ever
> since grub was used,
> >> and that up until now we just got lucky that nothing of any
> importance in the PPC
> >> vector table was being overwritten before now.
> >
> > debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso version 2019-07-16 and any other
> > versions before are using GRUB 2.02+dfsg1-20 and boot.
> >
> > Versions after 2019-07-16 don't boot and are using GRUB 2.04-4.
>
> Hi David,
>
> Right, indeed - the important part is what you quoted from my
> email above: "I think
> this bug has been around ever since grub was used, and that up
> until now we just got
> lucky that nothing of any importance in the PPC vector table was
> being overwritten
> before now.".
>
> Without my proposed fix I still see the older grub images access
> those low-level
> pages but with different offsets, which just by luck happen not to
> overwrite the MMU
> handlers.
>
> Can you confirm that the test OpenBIOS I posted in my previous
> email at
> https://www.ilande.co.uk/tmp/qemu/openbios-ppc-grubfix fixes the
> issue for you?
>
>
> ATB,
>
> Mark.
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I gave the grub-based debian 10 image a go and it booted. The 5 
> MacOS/OSX images I tested also booted.
>
> You need to download the openbios and point to it on the command line
> with -bios openbios-ppc-grubfix
>
> Best,
> Howard
>
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Re: Can't boot with qemu

[David VANTYGHEM]

> I did a comparison with a couple of DT dumps I have around and I see some Old 
> World
> Macs reserve up until 0x4000 and some New World Macs reserve up to 0x3000 in 
> low
> memory, so I don't think this change should break anything. I should add from 
> looking
> at the MMU translations I think this bug has been around ever since grub was 
> used,
> and that up until now we just got lucky that nothing of any importance in the 
> PPC
> vector table was being overwritten before now.

debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso version 2019-07-16 and any other
versions before are using GRUB 2.02+dfsg1-20 and boot.

Versions after 2019-07-16 don't boot and are using GRUB 2.04-4.

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Can't boot with qemu

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

All debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso in
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/ boot with qemu and GRUB, until
2019-07-16 version.
They don't boot with 2019-11-17 version and newer versions.

GRUB menu appears, I choose "Default install", the yellow screen is
cleaned and after "Loading...", nothing else happens.

Could someone verify this ?


I'm using this command :

qemu-system-ppc -monitor stdio -M mac99 -k fr -machine accel=tcg -m 512
-cdrom /home/david/Bureau/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso -hda
/home/david/Documents/Informatique\ et\ téléphone/Documentation\
informatique/Macintosh/Debian_10_LXDE -virtfs
local,id=shared_folder_dev_0,path=/home/david/Bureau,security_model=none,mount_tag=shared0
-boot order=dc,menu=on -net nic,macaddr=00:a2:6d:80:10:8f,model=rtl8139
-net user -net user,smb=/home/david/Bureau -rtc base=localtime -name
"Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3"

With QEMU emulator version 4.2.0 (Debian 1:4.2-3ubuntu6.3)


https://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34=10736=67049#p67049


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Debian mirrors

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I've got a good bandwith at home. So, I'm making a mirror for Debian
(and other Linux distributions). I'm trying jigdo but I read that it is
not anymore updated and that it's better to use zsync
(https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/zsync).

Would it be possible to use zsync on PowerPC Debian mirror ? (and is it
planned on other architectures ?)

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Re: Make Debian Sid cdimage download more obvious in official powerpc port page?

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 15/05/2020 à 08:29, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> Hello Hao!
>
> On 5/15/20 5:59 AM, H wrote:
>> The biggest pain in the whole process is finding this link, as the official
>> powerpc port page (https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/) is seriously
>> outdated. The ppc64 wiki page (https://wiki.debian.org/PPC64) hints that
>> the port is still active, but still not offering download as it is mainly
>> focused on build status. And it takes me a while to realize 'ppc64' is
>> literally the name of a port (the official ppc page doesn't mention it at
>> all)!
>>
>> So my 2 suggestions are:
>> 1. Mention debian ports website (https://www.ports.debian.org/) in official
>> powerpc page, or even better, put the above cdimage link there.
>> 2. Educate visitors, the existence of ppc64 port, along with powerpc port,
>> and clearly states their intended use, in that page.
> I suggest that you create a wiki account for yourself and start editing the
> wiki pages. For the website, you can create an account on Salsa, then clone
> the website repository [1], make the changes and open a pull request.
>
> I'm currently working on most Debian Ports issues more or less alone and I
> cannot take the additional burden to work on the website as well, I need
> people to help me with these efforts. So, please knock yourself out.
>
> Adrian
>
>> [1] https://salsa.debian.org/debian-ports-team/website

Hello,

Once the english pages will be updated on debian.org, I could make a
french translation.

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Re: Debian on a PowerMac G5 installers broken for 2019-04-11 and 2019-11-24

[David VANTYGHEM]

I've got a grey iMac G3 and I can make tests but as I'm a newbee, I
need, if possible, a short document with explanations about how to debug.


Le 14/04/2020 à 01:17, Jeffrey Walton a écrit :
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 3:01 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
>  wrote:
>> ...
>> What frustrates me is that even though there are so many testing and using
>> these images, apparently no one is willing to help me. Especially since
>> porting the various quirks from Yaboot's ofpath [1] over to ofpathname
>> from the powerpc-utils package [2] isn't rocket science. Just a lot of
>> tedious stupid typing and testing work.
> John, I have a PowerMac G5 and would be happy to help with testing.
>
> If you can provide a bootable ISO with diagnostics, I am happy to run
> it and report back. Something like a GRUB dry run that spits out its
> errors.
>
> Jeff
>
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Adélie Linux

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I tried to boot a grey iMac G3 with Adélie Linux
(https://distfiles.adelielinux.org/adelie/1.0/iso/rc1/). At the boot,
I've got the error message "Welcome Grub. unrecognized number." and
after, the Grub shell appears. I press ESC and then the GRUB menu
appears. If I choose the default line, Adélie Linux boots from Grub.

Perhaps the Adélie source code could help ?

https://code.foxkit.us/adelie/packages

https://distfiles.adelielinux.org/adelie/1.0/iso/rc1/

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Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-11-22

[David VANTYGHEM]

Tried on aqemu, all is working, excepted the installation of grub at the
end of the installation.

But I remember you are working on it, isn't it ?

/usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc -monitor stdio -k fr -machine accel=tcg -m 512
-cdrom /home/david/Bureau/debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso -hda
/home/david/.aqemu/iMacG3_hard_disk_HDA.img -virtfs
local,id=shared_folder_dev_0,path=/home/david/Bureau,security_model=none,mount_tag=shared0
-boot once=d,menu=on -net nic,vlan=0,macaddr=00:a2:6d:80:10:8f -net
user,vlan=0 -rtc base=localtime -name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" -M mac99

Le 22/11/2019 à 21:59, Jeroen Diederen a écrit :
> Adrian,
>
> You were right. I am sorry. The installer image in Debian Ports 2019-11-22 
> works. The partitioning stage works as expected. it is now installing the 
> base system.
>
> Jeroen
>
> On Nov 22, 2019, at 9:15 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>> On 11/22/19 9:14 PM, Jeroen Diederen wrote:
>>> I use your initrd.gz and vmlinux.
>> Okay, I'm giving up. You are not willing to work together.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>> -- 
>> .''`.  John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
>> : :' :  Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org
>> `. `'   Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de
>>  `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546  0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
>>
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Re: Debian 9 / 10 mirror server address

[David VANTYGHEM]

Last image : https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-05-24/

(only Grub doesn't install)


Le 06/06/2019 à 12:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> On 6/6/19 12:27 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> I tried that image.  Here’s the MD5 just to be certain.
>>
>>> $ md5sum debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso 
>>> 7d1383cea7c831e4e1420e261ee2ea40  debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso
>> All went well til it tried to connect to the mirror.  I tried several mirror 
>> locations and all resulted in errors because the public key 
>> “DA1B2CEA81DCBC61” could not be verified.
>>
>> Any suggestions?  Thanks!
> Try one of the newer snapshot images or skip the mirror step. You can add
> the mirror later once the system is installed and running.
>
> Adrian
>
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Re: Debian 9 / 10 mirror server address

[David VANTYGHEM]

Without http ?

ftp.ports.debian.org -> /debian-ports/


Le 02/06/2019 à 19:01, Karl a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> which server address have I to enter on installation?
> I tried: http://ftp.ports.debian.org -> /debian-ports
>
> But it didn’t work
>
> Thanks in advance

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GRUB doesn't install on G3

[David VANTYGHEM]

I tested
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/grub-test/debian-10.0-powerpc-grub-NETINST-1.iso
on an iMac G3 in QAMEU. GRUB doesn't install :

https://framapic.org/zE4TiX2fDkoI/vvygLQpinTrX.png

https://framapic.org/GjnoOaL19Flf/EIRQQsVsPbxO.png

https://framapic.org/vA30S5uVXnvM/efj051RWUpnb.png

https://framapic.org/d4mHx8kHQFVO/CjLb9DMAFiDu.png

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Re: Testing Debian install in AQUEMU

[David VANTYGHEM]

> `df` only shows mounted file systems. 

Hello,

I installed
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-17/debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso
and I had only an error with Grub install :

https://framapic.org/fPo4MKLgMWt7/KBFBwoe362nY.png

https://framapic.org/5EJPcLLYWveW/7u3L6xczNOa2.png

https://framapic.org/k1vPSdjIUzIG/ZhpV2EYIU5Yi.png

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Re: Testing Debian install in AQUEMU

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I tested
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-15/debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso

I did not reach Grub instalation, I've got this error before :

https://framapic.org/KrggKjTBccT7/3AdSVbaz5cgF.png

https://framapic.org/ObBs6zJmvzkb/Eul0MHrh8K2a.png

I tried three times, choosing LxQt installation.

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Re: Testing Debian install in AQUEMU

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 14/04/2019 à 23:35, Frank Scheiner a écrit :
> Hi David,
>
> On 4/14/19 22:55, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>> I've got this error :
>>
>> https://framapic.org/VlzE2HdYGj1h/34Y0Cd8rQUkB.png
>>
>> https://framapic.org/Xo8dvME9qnMX/xPNVqm6HIrI0.png
>
> Something's wrong here. The disk device (and not a partition) is used as
> HFS bootstrap (partition) and formatted.
>
> How was the partitioning layout created and what layout was actually
> used?
>
> Cheers,
> Frank


The partition layout : https://framapic.org/IKcPY4qKSnjE/hUZQYVRrwD3j.png

I choosed the default options : "Whole disk" and "One partition".

I will test now with
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-15/debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso

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Testing Debian install in AQUEMU

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I'm trying to install
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-12/debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso
in a virtual G3 in AQEMU.

/usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc \

-monitor stdio \

-loadvm aqemu_save \

-k fr \

-machine accel=tcg \

-m 512 \

-cdrom /home/david/Bureau/debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso \

-hda /home/david/.aqemu/iMacG3_hard_disk_HDA.img \

-boot once=d,menu=on \

-net nic,vlan=0,macaddr=00:a2:6d:80:10:8f \

-net user,vlan=0 \

-rtc base=localtime \

-name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" \

-M mac99

I've got this error :

https://framapic.org/VlzE2HdYGj1h/34Y0Cd8rQUkB.png

https://framapic.org/Xo8dvME9qnMX/xPNVqm6HIrI0.png

Ask me if you want more info.

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Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 08/04/2019 à 09:24, Mark Cave-Ayland a écrit :
> On 07/04/2019 23:26, Frank Scheiner wrote:
>
>> On 4/7/19 15:23, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>>> Le 07/04/2019 à 13:27, David VANTYGHEM a écrit :
>>>> Le 07/04/2019 à 13:26, Frank Scheiner a écrit :
>>>>> On 4/7/19 11:45, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>>>>>> Le 06/04/2019 à 23:31, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
>>>>>>> On 4/6/19 10:41 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Done: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-06/
>>>>>>>> I just tested this version on Qemu and I've got this error with Grub :
>>>>>>>> https://framapic.org/akOHeksS12oS/Da09AivOaCdX.png
>>>>>>> Could you run the installation in English, please? I unfortunately
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> speak French so I have no idea what that error message says without
>>>>>>> asking a dictionary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> My config : https://framapic.org/73u0wOljO2rC/CFmMiDh1UciP.png
>>>
>>> I have this error in /var/log/syslog :
>>> https://framapic.org/5YQveKvbJKps/3MKipDbxX4Yd.png
>> I think this looks like the emulated powerpc machine is not identified
>> as powerpc/powermac_newworld. The changes to d-i/grub-installer are only
>> "active" for NewWorld Power Macs.
>>
>> What does `archdetect` say if you run it in a console in the installer
>> environment?
> I'm actually AFK now for the next 2 weeks, but I suspect the issue here is 
> that David
> is running the default QEMU PPC machine which is the G3 beige. If you want a 
> New
> World Mac then you'll need to run either:
>
>qemu-system-ppc -M mac99 
>
> or:
>
>qemu-system-ppc -M mac99,via=pmu ...
>
>
> ATB,
>
> Mark.

archdetect says powerpc/powermac_oldworld

I will try with

  qemu-system-ppc -M mac99 

or:

   qemu-system-ppc -M mac99,via=pmu ...

thank you for the help.


Does this version of Ubuntu works only on new world Macintosh too ?
http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/xenial/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/

Can I use Debian for PowerPC on my grey iMac G3 ?
http://www.numopen.fr/storage/files/images/Ubuntu_sur_iMac_G3.jpg

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Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 07/04/2019 à 13:27, David VANTYGHEM a écrit :
> Le 07/04/2019 à 13:26, Frank Scheiner a écrit :
>> On 4/7/19 11:45, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>>> Le 06/04/2019 à 23:31, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
>>>> On 4/6/19 10:41 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>>>>>> Done: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-06/
>>>>> I just tested this version on Qemu and I've got this error with Grub :
>>>>> https://framapic.org/akOHeksS12oS/Da09AivOaCdX.png
>>>> Could you run the installation in English, please? I unfortunately
>>>> don't
>>>> speak French so I have no idea what that error message says without
>>>> asking a dictionary.
>>>>
>>>>
My config : https://framapic.org/73u0wOljO2rC/CFmMiDh1UciP.png

I have this error in /var/log/syslog :
https://framapic.org/5YQveKvbJKps/3MKipDbxX4Yd.png

Ask me if you want another log error result.

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Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 07/04/2019 à 13:26, Frank Scheiner a écrit :
> On 4/7/19 11:45, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>>
>> Le 06/04/2019 à 23:31, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
>>> On 4/6/19 10:41 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>>>>> Done: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-06/
>>>> I just tested this version on Qemu and I've got this error with Grub :
>>>> https://framapic.org/akOHeksS12oS/Da09AivOaCdX.png
>>> Could you run the installation in English, please? I unfortunately
>>> don't
>>> speak French so I have no idea what that error message says without
>>> asking a dictionary.
>>>
>>>
>> In AQEMU, I can switch to Monitor with CTRL+ALT+1 but after, I've got
>> this screnn and nothing happens when I type a command, what I type on
>> the keyboard doesn't appear in the monitor :
>> https://framapic.org/2a91JdNpZUJ8/pvKqnOoLStv9.png
>>
>> Any idea of what I must do ?
>
> Sorry, no idea, CCing to Mark Cave-Ayland, maybe he can help.
>
>
I found it, there's a menu "Send keys" in AQEMU.

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Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

[David VANTYGHEM]

Le 06/04/2019 à 23:31, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> On 4/6/19 10:41 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
>>> Done: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-06/
>> I just tested this version on Qemu and I've got this error with Grub :
>> https://framapic.org/akOHeksS12oS/Da09AivOaCdX.png
> Could you run the installation in English, please? I unfortunately don't
> speak French so I have no idea what that error message says without
> asking a dictionary.
>
>
In AQEMU, I can switch to Monitor with CTRL+ALT+1 but after, I've got
this screnn and nothing happens when I type a command, what I type on
the keyboard doesn't appear in the monitor :
https://framapic.org/2a91JdNpZUJ8/pvKqnOoLStv9.png

Any idea of what I must do ?

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Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

[David VANTYGHEM]

> Done: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-06/

Hello,

I just tested

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-06/debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso
 

 on Qemu (iMac G3) and I've got this error with Grub :

https://framapic.org/akOHeksS12oS/Da09AivOaCdX.png

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Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

[David VANTYGHEM]

> Done: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-06/

Hello,

I just tested this version on Qemu and I've got this error with Grub :
https://framapic.org/akOHeksS12oS/Da09AivOaCdX.png

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Re: Installation of Debian on an iMac PowerPC

[David VANTYGHEM]

Thank you for these answers.

I'm not in a hurry. I will keep this iMac G3 and I will test again when
a new version will be proposed. I will post here if there's an error again.

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Re: Installation of Debian on an iMac PowerPC

[David VANTYGHEM]

https://framapic.org/52MPBtyV0Qrw/Z9Zi8opwh3F1.png (boot with QEMU)
https://framapic.org/M13u5e3O8x6G/87lLHdIa23gv.jpg (boot on the iMac G3)

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Installation of Debian on an iMac PowerPC

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

I'm a beginner on Macintosh.

I'm trying to install Debian (+ LXDE) on my iMac G3.

I'm using a CD-ROM with
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-01-27/debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso
on it.

I've got 2 errors :

1) An error during the softwares installation :
https://framapic.org/U8WJdTtyBnT6/4y7B4AB68uBz.jpg

2) A more important error with GRUB that doesn't install :

https://framapic.org/akOHeksS12oS/Da09AivOaCdX.png

https://framapic.org/mJ8AHgLUdQXb/7xPInXj4wSDY.png

And I can't boot after the end of the installation :

https://framapic.org/52MPBtyV0Qrw/Z9Zi8opwh3F1.png


I tested the installation in a virtual computer with QUEMU (AQEMU). I've
got only the 2) error and the same problem to boot.

Is it a bug or did I make something wrong ?

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Re: [Stretch] Status for architecture qualification

[John David Anglin]

On 2016-06-05 8:56 AM, Steven Chamberlain wrote:

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

>I have invested lots of time and effort to get sparc64 into a usable state in 
Debian.
>We are close to 11.000 installed packages. Missing packages include Firefox,
>Thunderbird/Icedove, golang and LibreOffice to name the most important ones.

Is there some way to define 'core'[0] packages as blockers for testing
migration, and arch release qualification;  but other packages not?

Many of these ports would be useful if just a base system was released,
and preferably having stable/security updates for that part (otherwise
it is difficult for users to try it, developers to work on it, or DSA to
support buildds for it;  all of which are limitations on ports' further
growth).
I might mention that many kernel and tool chain bugs have been resolved 
on hppa since
we joined ports.  Total source package count  is now close to 11100, 
although this fluctuates.
Using this measure we are at the same level as alpha, ppc64 and 
sparc64.  SMP systems

are stable and run reliably as buildd machines.

Even if we increased our relative package count, we don't have the 
manpower to re-qualify
as a release architecture.  However, I like Steve's suggestion. Helge 
effectively defined a set
of core packages for hppa when he set up a new jessie-based install disk 
a few months ago.
This is currently available at .  I tend to think 
this should be done within

the context of Debian ports.

Dave

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Re: Fan Control on G5 iMac

[David Gosselin]

There's a driver on the system which is not loaded by default. To load it 
manually after boot, run the following as root:
modprobe i2c-powermac 

Dave 



 On Dec 20, 2014, at 20:56, Kristen R kris...@atmyhome.org wrote:
 
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Re: Bug#751277: python-biopython: FTBFS on mips* powerpc s390x

[David Gosselin]

I can provide SSH access to a PowerMac G5 running 7.6 if you'd like to test 
this. 

 On Aug 18, 2014, at 4:01, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote:
 
 Hi porters,
 
 could you please be so kind to check this issue?  It would be great to
 find out why the test suite of biopython fails on these architectures.
 
 Thanks a lot
 
   Andreas.
 
 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:35:53AM -0700, Michiel de Hoon wrote:
 Hi Andreas,
 
 Without access to powerpc, I have no way to test the code.
 Can you try recompiling Biopython and checking what exactly happens inside 
 the distance_converter function in Bio/Cluster/clustermodule.c ?
 For example, I am really wondering what strlen(data) inside this function 
 returns on powerpc.
 
 Best,
 -Michiel.
 
 
 On Sat, 8/16/14, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Bug#751277: python-biopython: FTBFS on mips* powerpc s390x
 To: Peter Cock p.j.a.c...@googlemail.com
 Cc: Dejan Latinovic dejan.latino...@imgtec.com, Michiel de Hoon 
 mjldeh...@yahoo.com, Biopython discussion list 
 biopyt...@lists.open-bio.org, 751...@bugs.debian.org 
 751...@bugs.debian.org, biopython-...@biopython.org 
 biopython-...@biopython.org
 Date: Saturday, August 16, 2014, 5:37 AM
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at
 09:52:40AM +0100, Peter Cock wrote:
 
 
1. waiting for
 your confirmation / patch
 
2. deactivating the specific test
3. exclude mips for
 biopython
4. ? any
 better idea ?
 
 In the current state all the work we spent in biopython
 over the last
 monthes will not
 migrate to testing for the simple reason that the
 current package in testing just does
 not run the test suite at build
 time and moreover python3 is not supported.
 
 Kind
 regards
 
   Andreas.
 
 I would suggest (2), deactivate this test
 (at least for for mips) as
 the most
 practical short term solution for the Debian packages.
 Or if you prefer (3), don't target
 mips for the Biopython package
 (yet).
 
 Medium
 term, I hope we can fix the C code to handle either
 Endian platform - option (1).
 
 It seems after having fixed
 the issue caused by wise we have one
 remaining problem:
 
   On powerpc[1] and s390x[2] test_Cluster
 fails even with Python 2.7 with:
 
 ==
 ERROR: test_clusterdistance
 (test_Cluster.TestCluster)
 --
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File
 /«BUILDDIR»/python-biopython-1.64+dfsg/.pybuild/pythonX.Y_3.4/build/Tests/test_Cluster.py,
 line 212, in test_clusterdistance

 method='a', transpose=0)
 ValueError:
 method should be a single character
 
 ==
 ERROR: test_kcluster
 (test_Cluster.TestCluster)
 --
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File
 /«BUILDDIR»/python-biopython-1.64+dfsg/.pybuild/pythonX.Y_3.4/build/Tests/test_Cluster.py,
 line 141, in test_kcluster

 method='a', dist='e')
 ValueError: method should be a single
 character
 
 ==
 ERROR: test_somcluster
 (test_Cluster.TestCluster)
 --
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File
 /«BUILDDIR»/python-biopython-1.64+dfsg/.pybuild/pythonX.Y_3.4/build/Tests/test_Cluster.py,
 line 557, in test_somcluster

 inittau=0.02, niter=100, dist='e')
 ValueError: distance should be a single
 character
 
 ==
 ERROR: test_treecluster
 (test_Cluster.TestCluster)
 --
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File
 /«BUILDDIR»/python-biopython-1.64+dfsg/.pybuild/pythonX.Y_3.4/build/Tests/test_Cluster.py,
 line 290, in test_treecluster

 transpose=0, method='a', dist='e')
 ValueError: method should be a single
 character
 
 --
 Ran 210 tests in 293.712 seconds
 
 FAILED (failures = 1)
 
 
 On sparc[3]
 there is a problem with dialign but sparc is no release
 architecture and wie might ignore this.  It
 might be a helpful hint
 anyway.
 
 Any hint for the test_Cluster
 problem?  If not I would also consider to
 hide it cowardly under the carpet for the
 moment.  The new package is so
 much better
 tested than the one in the testing distribution which
 does
 not even dare about any unit tests and
 only for this reason reached the
 testing
 distribution.
 
 What do you
 think?
 
 Kind regards
 

Andreas.
 
 scrool these links to the end to see the
 problem:
 
 [1] 
 https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=python-biopythonarch=powerpcver=1.64%2Bdfsg-3stamp=1408116532
 [2] 
 

Re: Support for PPC processors prior to POWER4 being dropped from kernel 3.17

[David Gosselin]

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Does this include 32-bit processors?  The first link doesn't specify
while the second appears to discuss 64-bit only.

On 8/13/2014 7:23 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
 
 Does anybody know if this affects the Moto G[345] processors used
 in the Apple Macintosh machines?
 
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTc1Njk
 
 and
 
 http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1408.0/03120.html
 
 Rick
 
 
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Re: Debian PPC test video problem with G5 Quad

[David Gosselin]

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Did you try to update the yaboot configuration with the new parameter?
 Done properly, this will pass the parameter to the kernel on every boot.
Modify /etc/yaboot.conf and add the parameter, then run ybin (please
skim the man page if you've never run this before).
Dave

On 7/29/2014 9:35 AM, ke...@refaceplace.net wrote:
 Hi guys installed the test and installation progress everything
 goes fluid At first system boot no video at all on the Xorg Only
 Black Screen , the terminal video is corrupted and not perfect.
 On Wheezy 7.5 everything was working (except the audio) My
 Configuration PowerMac G5 Quad 8Gb , Nvidia 7800gtx 512mb Regards
 Luigi
 
 I have a similar problem on a Powermac G4 MDD, 1.0 GHz single
 processor, 2GB ram, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card. The
 installation went normally, but upon initial reboot, I got a black
 screen with only the pointer. I forced the computer to shut down by
 holding in the power button for 5 seconds.
 
 The solution, at least in my case, is to enter a boot parameter for
 the radeon card at the boot: prompt. In my case it's Linux 
 video=radeonfb:1920x1080-32@60 without the quotes. This gets me to
 the desktop and from there everything is seeming to work well.
 However, the computer fails to remember the boot parameter on
 subsequent restarts, so that's another problem.
 
 I've been using Wheezy since it was released and it works great on
 this machine.
 
 Regards, Keith
 
 
 
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Re: Alternative java/JVM working on armel/powerpc?

[David Gosselin]

I likewise can give SSH access to a ppc64 machine (PowerMac G5 7,3)
running Debian 7.5.


On 07/10/2014 02:51 PM, Ruben Vandeginste wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br
 wrote:
 
 I would like to run some programs that require a JVM on
 alternative platforms, like armel/powerpc (these are arches for
 which I have hardware running Debian, but others might also be of
 interest).  (Please, feel free to cross-post this message to
 other ports, if you deem this to be relevant.)
 
 But anything related to Java is too slow on such architectures
 with the default, unoptimized Zero JVM and I'm having some
 problems while trying to use other JVM implementations that we
 have in the archive.
 
 
 Hello,
 
 It's been a while, but I did test cacao and jamvm before as better
 alternatives to the default Zero jvm. My conclusion back then was
 that they're not really practically usable except for test or toy
 programs.
 
 Even longer ago, I did use the IBM jdk 6 on powerpc and that one
 was actually usable. This one would most likely still have the best
 performance of the available jdks on powerpc. Version 7 of the jdk
 is available, but it does not seem to work on Apple hardware (G4).
 
 Regarding arm hardware, there is an embedded jvm available from
 Oracle, thanks to the popularity of the Raspberry Pi. I did not
 test that one however.
 
 Either way, I gave up on using java on my powerpc laptop. It is
 simply too slow to do any useful programming in java with it. I
 think that clojure and scala will be even slower.
 
 kind regards, Ruben
 
 


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Re: preparing for GCC 4.9

[David Gosselin]

Hello and apologies for the cross-post,
I've built GCC 4.9 on my PowerMac G5 (ppc64) running Debian 7.3.  I'd like 
to support the port of Debian to this platform using GCC 4.9 and would 
appreciate a pointer on where to begin if possible.

Additionally, I could provide a SSH login to the machine.
Thanks,
Dave


-Original Message- 
From: Matthias Klose

Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:00 AM
To: David Gosselin ; Patrick Baggett
Cc: debian-po...@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: preparing for GCC 4.9

sorry, can't help with this. setting up a pbuilder or sbuild, and start 
building

packages from the base system?

 Matthias

Am 13.05.2014 03:26, schrieb David Gosselin:
I'm in the same boat as Patrick, except with a PowerMac G5. Please let us 
know how to begin.

Thanks,
Dave

On May 12, 2014, at 16:02, Patrick Baggett baggett.patr...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi Matthias et al,

I'd like to try to do some of this using my sparc box and see how far I 
get. Is there a link that explains how to set up these steps? Others seem 
to just know what to do, but I haven't the slightest idea of where to 
begin. I have a box with gcc-4.9, plenty of disk space, and electricity 
to burn. Where do I start?


Patrick



On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote:
With gcc-4.9 now available in testing, it is time to prepare for the 
change of

the default to 4.9, for a subset of architectures or for all (release)
architectures.  The defaults for the gdc, gccgo, gcj and gnat frontends 
already
point to 4.9 and are used on all architectures.  Issue #746805 tracks 
the
gfortran default change, including the change of the Fortran 90 module 
version

change.

The Debian archive was rebuilt twice on amd64, once in February, 
resulting in
bug submissions for GCC and feedback for the porting guide [1], a second 
time in
March to file issues for packages failing to build with GCC 4.9 [2]. 
Another
test rebuild for Ubuntu on amd64, i386, armhf, ppc64el didn't show any 
other

compiler regressions on these architectures.

I would like to see some partial test rebuilds (like buildd or minimal 
chroot
packages) for other architectures. Any possibility to setup such a test 
rebuild
for some architectures by the porters? Afaics the results for the GCC 
testsuite

look okish for every architecture.

I'll work on fixing the build failures in [2], help is of course 
appreciated.
Almost all build failures are analyzed and should be easy to fix 
(exceptions
e.g. #746883).  Patches for the ones not caused by the Debian packaging 
may be
found in distributions already using GCC 4.9 as the default compiler 
(e.g.

Fedora 21).

If anything goes well, and a large amount of build failures are fixed, I 
plan to
make GCC 4.9 the default for the C/C++/ObjC/Obj-C++ frontends at the end 
of May,

beginning of June.

Bugs reports for packages building with a legacy version of GCC (4.6, 
4.7, 4.8)

will be filed.

  Matthias

[1] http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9/porting_to.html
[2]
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=ftbfs-gcc-4.9;users=debian-...@lists.debian.org


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Re: preparing for GCC 4.9

[David Gosselin]

I'm in the same boat as Patrick, except with a PowerMac G5. Please let us know 
how to begin. 
Thanks,
Dave

 On May 12, 2014, at 16:02, Patrick Baggett baggett.patr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Matthias et al,
 
 I'd like to try to do some of this using my sparc box and see how far I get. 
 Is there a link that explains how to set up these steps? Others seem to just 
 know what to do, but I haven't the slightest idea of where to begin. I have 
 a box with gcc-4.9, plenty of disk space, and electricity to burn. Where do I 
 start?
 
 Patrick
 
 
 On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote:
 With gcc-4.9 now available in testing, it is time to prepare for the change 
 of
 the default to 4.9, for a subset of architectures or for all (release)
 architectures.  The defaults for the gdc, gccgo, gcj and gnat frontends 
 already
 point to 4.9 and are used on all architectures.  Issue #746805 tracks the
 gfortran default change, including the change of the Fortran 90 module 
 version
 change.
 
 The Debian archive was rebuilt twice on amd64, once in February, resulting in
 bug submissions for GCC and feedback for the porting guide [1], a second 
 time in
 March to file issues for packages failing to build with GCC 4.9 [2].  Another
 test rebuild for Ubuntu on amd64, i386, armhf, ppc64el didn't show any other
 compiler regressions on these architectures.
 
 I would like to see some partial test rebuilds (like buildd or minimal chroot
 packages) for other architectures. Any possibility to setup such a test 
 rebuild
 for some architectures by the porters? Afaics the results for the GCC 
 testsuite
 look okish for every architecture.
 
 I'll work on fixing the build failures in [2], help is of course appreciated.
 Almost all build failures are analyzed and should be easy to fix (exceptions
 e.g. #746883).  Patches for the ones not caused by the Debian packaging may 
 be
 found in distributions already using GCC 4.9 as the default compiler (e.g.
 Fedora 21).
 
 If anything goes well, and a large amount of build failures are fixed, I 
 plan to
 make GCC 4.9 the default for the C/C++/ObjC/Obj-C++ frontends at the end of 
 May,
 beginning of June.
 
 Bugs reports for packages building with a legacy version of GCC (4.6, 4.7, 
 4.8)
 will be filed.
 
   Matthias
 
 [1] http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9/porting_to.html
 [2]
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=ftbfs-gcc-4.9;users=debian-...@lists.debian.org
 
 
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Re: Problems with X11 on Ultra10

[David Gosselin]

Hi,
I was curious as to what prompted you to try SBUS:/SUNW,ffb@1e,0 for the 
BusID value?

Thanks,
Dave

-Original Message- 
From: Sad Clouds

Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 3:57 AM
To: Hayden Kroepfl
Cc: debian-po...@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Problems with X11 on Ultra10

On Sun, 4 May 2014 08:25:16 +0100
Sad Clouds cryintotheblue...@googlemail.com wrote:


On Sat, 03 May 2014 17:20:33 -0600
Hayden Kroepfl perlpow...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/05/14 03:39 PM, Sad Clouds wrote:
  Hello, I'm new to Debian and trying it out on Ultra10 which has
  Creator3D framebuffer.
 
  I installed Debian stable and seem to be having some issues with
  X11 or display manager. The system boots OK and I can see boot
  messages, but when it goes to start display manager the screen
  goes black and nothing happens. No windows, no mouse cursor,
  nothing.
 
  Any ideas?
 
 

 Might as well ask about the obvious right away, do you have your
 monitor hooked up to the onboard video in the bottom left corner
 (facing the back), or to the 13W3 video connector on the Creator3D?
 What could be happening is X11 picked the wrong card by default and
 is only showing it on the opposite connector. If you have a second
 monitor try hooking one up to the 13W3 and one to the VGA connector.

 Hayden K.

Hello, that was the first thing I tried however there is no VGA signal
on machfb. I managed to get IP address assigned to this machine from
DHCP server, logged in via ssh and looked at the logs. Looks like X
server has problems configuring framebuffer device.

So I generated xorg.conf manually with 'X -configure' and it thinks I
have 3 cards:

Identifier  Card0
Driver  mach64
BusID   PCI:1:2:0

Identifier  Card1
Driver  fbdev
BusID   PCI:1:2:0

Identifier  Card2
Driver  vesa
BusID   PCI:1:2:0


This looks wrong to me, one of them should be using sunffb driver. And
why all three drivers refer to the same BusID?

I tried copying this file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and leaving only

Identifier  Card1
Driver  sunffb
BusID   PCI:1:2:0

But still can't get X11 running

Any ideas?


OK changed that to

BusID SBUS:/SUNW,ffb@1e,0

and X11 works now.


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Re: Debian Stable, G4 powermac, X11 crashes on boot with, black screen + therm issue?

[David Gosselin]

I'm curious how the file generated by X -configure was overwritten after a 
reboot.  Does X -configure by default generate an ephemeral configuration 
xorg.conf file?


-Original Message- 
From: gw [j] iza [b] superstar

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:31 PM
To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian Stable, G4 powermac, X11 crashes on boot with, black 
screen + therm issue?


Thanks Risto  Dave,

I do have NoAccel true in xorg.conf,
but checking for the auto-dim and screensaver as possible problems are both
also good tips.

I also meant to say in my follow up, X -configure [not config], created a 
file

that temporarily worked for me, but then the same issue came back after a
reboot.

Here is my original post:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2014/03/msg00042.html

jb

On Tuesday 25 March 2014 07:26:38 Risto Suominen wrote:

One option you might try in your xorg.conf's Section Device:

Option NoAccel true

I have put it in mine. I don't remember why. This is a 12 PowerBook 1.33
MHz.

lspci.
:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV34M
[GeForce FX Go5200] (rev a1)

dmesg:
[   10.305792] [drm] nouveau :00:10.0: Detected an NV30 generation
card (0x034900a3)

Risto


I remember having this issue on an old PowerBook G4 15” (which I no longer
have).  It was related to the screensaver starting.  The screensaver would
start but instead of displaying the graphics, it would black-out the screen.
Neither keypress nor mouse movement would return to the desktop.  I 
recommend
removing your screensaver.  Additionally, try disabling the 
auto-dim/auto-off

for the display.
Dave

From: gw [j] iza [b] superstar
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:53 AM
To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian Stable, G4 powermac, X11 crashes on boot with, black
screen + therm issue?



Is there any reason why X would start normally,



but then a few hours later, crash with the same old problem?


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Re: Debian Stable, G4 powermac, X11 crashes on boot with, black screen + therm issue?

[David Gosselin]

I remember having this issue on an old PowerBook G4 15” (which I no longer 
have).  It was related to the screensaver starting.  The screensaver would 
start but instead of displaying the graphics, it would black-out the screen.  
Neither keypress nor mouse movement would return to the desktop.  I recommend 
removing your screensaver.  Additionally, try disabling the auto-dim/auto-off 
for the display.
Dave

From: gw [j] iza [b] superstar 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:53 AM
To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org 
Subject: Re: Debian Stable, G4 powermac, X11 crashes on boot with, black 
screen + therm issue?



Is there any reason why X would start normally, 



but then a few hours later, crash with the same old problem?





Scenario:

I fixed a lot of my issues over the weekend, by using X -config

,and then used the auto-generated xorg.conf,

but first commenting out things not display-related, and the extra monitor that 
it added.



Then the system booted up, and even started X!



Morning comes: The battery was fully charged. Black screen is back.



j