Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-19 Thread Amit Uttamchandani

thanks for the info. It looks like I'm using the same graphics card as well.


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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or?OpenBSD

2007-08-17 Thread Rogério Brito
On Aug 15 2007, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> * As for my graphics card, I am using an ATI chip. This is a fairly old
> PowerBook G4.

You can see which version of the ATI chip you have using lspci. My iBook
G3 600MHz has a Rage Mobility M3.


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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-15 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Hey there,

Thanks for the response. It is good to know that this is not a debian specific
issue.

 * As for my graphics card, I am using an ATI chip. This is a fairly old
PowerBook G4.

 * Kernel Version: 2.16.18.4-powerpc

I will definitely try to do a bit more research about the backlight curve issue.

In the meantime I will be able to live with this.

Thanks,
Amit




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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-14 Thread Torrance

Hi Amit,

I'm not sure what the graphics card is in your powerbook, but I  
noticed a reduction in brightness compared to OSX when using Debian  
on my iMac G5 (revA) which has an nvidia device. When I put the  
question to this list, this is the response I got back:



On Sun, Dec 10, 2006 at 03:03:29PM +1300, Torrance wrote:

4) Screen too dim. The default backlight brightness in Debian is  
noticably
dimmer than in MacOS X. So far, we have not been able to work out  
how to fix

this.



What kind of graphics chip do you have?

You should be able to upload a new backlight curve if you're using  
Linux

2.6.18 or higher. Also, for NVidia chips, we haven't yet found out for
sure how to detect the maximum value allowed (I was the one rewriting
the backlight infrastructure in 2.6.18). Hence it might be that, when
using an NVidia chipset, the display is not that bright as in Mac  
OS X.


And anyway, this is in no way distribution specific.

Greets,
Michael


Unfortunately, I had no idea how to play with the brightness curve so  
I had to stick with the brightness I was given.


Torrance


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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-14 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Thank you!

I did check out pommed and it requires kernel 2.6.22 I think so I will have to
compile that and then compile pommed from source. I rather not move into
unstable just yet.

Amit


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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-14 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Thank you for all your help!

I guess I'll live with this. I will try reading some more on this issue. Thank's
again

Amit


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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-14 Thread Matthias Grimm
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:32:04 + (UTC)
Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I installed 'powerprefs' from aptitude and followed your instructions. A few
> points from the display page.
> 
>  * Under LCD Tab: Current Brightness Level: 100%
>  * Under Options: Simply has framebuffer options

The driver is printed right below the current brightness level. I use
powerprefs 0.8.0 and pbbuttonsd 0.8.1. Debian is a little bit behind
because unfortunately the package is currently marked as orphaned.

> I tried looking at other places but I can't seem to find the place where it
> displays Driver information. I installed it from the stable branch. Maybe the
> version is outdated?

Yes, but the version in stable works quite well on PowerPC. The changes
in the new releases are mainly aimed at the new Intel based MacBooks.
I think also the new versions won't fix your brightness problem because
it does nothing else as Yves-Alexis wrote in his email. Nevertheless you
might want to give it a try.

> Also, I've read something about pommed package available in testing and
> unstable. Do you have any experiences with that?

Pommed is a small daemon created to support the Intel-based MacBooks.
The latest version got also support for PowerBooks but the main focus
is MacBook. It has only a subset of pbbuttonsd's features, but it does
a good job. Nevertheless it won't fix your brightness problem because
it uses the same methods to control the brightness as pbbuttonsd.

 Best Regards
   Matthias




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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-13 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Yves-Alexis Perez  corsac.net> writes:

> 
> On dim, 2007-08-12 at 00:22 +, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> > I checked out the 'max_brightness' and 'actual_brightness' and both of
> > them are
> > set to 127. Is it safe to set them up at a higher level? 
> 
> If max_brightness is 127 you won't be able to set it to higher value.


Hmmmso i guess there is no other way then? Maybe a newer kernel version?

Amit


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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim, 2007-08-12 at 00:32 +, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> Also, I've read something about pommed package available in testing
> and
> unstable. Do you have any experiences with that? 

>From my own experience, pommed is far simpler, lighter and better than
pbbuttonsd.
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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim, 2007-08-12 at 00:22 +, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> I checked out the 'max_brightness' and 'actual_brightness' and both of
> them are
> set to 127. Is it safe to set them up at a higher level? 

If max_brightness is 127 you won't be able to set it to higher value.
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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-11 Thread Amit Uttamchandani

> I think your system uses the new SysFS Brightness interface which has
> 128 or maybe 256 brightness steps on your system. You could check this
> with the program Powerprefs, go to the display page (light bulb) and
> check which "Driver" is currently active in pbbuttonsd to control the
> display brightness.
> 

Thanks for the quick response.

I installed 'powerprefs' from aptitude and followed your instructions. A few
points from the display page.

 * Under LCD Tab: Current Brightness Level: 100%
 * Under Options: Simply has framebuffer options

I tried looking at other places but I can't seem to find the place where it
displays Driver information. I installed it from the stable branch. Maybe the
version is outdated?

Also, I've read something about pommed package available in testing and
unstable. Do you have any experiences with that?

Thanks,
Amit


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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-11 Thread Amit Uttamchandani

> If you have the sysfs interface with radeon card, you can try to look
> in /sys/class/backlight/radeonbl0/
> 
> Especially check for max_brightness and actual_brightness. If you want,
> you can manually adjust it using:
> 
> echo 127 > /sys/class/backlight/radeonbl0/brightness
> 
> Regards,

Thanks for the response.

I checked out the 'max_brightness' and 'actual_brightness' and both of them are
set to 127. Is it safe to set them up at a higher level?

Amit


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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-11 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven, 2007-08-10 at 21:07 +, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> However, I have a small issue with the brightness level. I had OpenBSD
> (4.1) and
> Mac OS X (10.4) installed at one point and the brightness level was
> much higher
> than what I have here in Debian. I installed pbbuttonsd and brightness
> keys were
> working but still can't get it as bright as OpenBSD or OS X. Searching
> the ppc
> mailinglist suggest the use of ikeys to give 15 brightness levels? But
> checking
> aptitude it seems that this package is out of date and would conflict
> with the
> installed pbbuttonsd. 

If you have the sysfs interface with radeon card, you can try to look
in /sys/class/backlight/radeonbl0/

Especially check for max_brightness and actual_brightness. If you want,
you can manually adjust it using:

echo 127 > /sys/class/backlight/radeonbl0/brightness

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Re: PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-11 Thread Matthias Grimm
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:07:55 + (UTC)
Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
> However, I have a small issue with the brightness level. I had OpenBSD (4.1) 
> and
> Mac OS X (10.4) installed at one point and the brightness level was much 
> higher
> than what I have here in Debian. I installed pbbuttonsd and brightness keys 
> were
> working but still can't get it as bright as OpenBSD or OS X. Searching the ppc
> mailinglist suggest the use of ikeys to give 15 brightness levels? But 
> checking
> aptitude it seems that this package is out of date and would conflict with the
> installed pbbuttonsd.

ikeys won't be a solution for your problem, because it controls the
brightness level in the same way as pbbuttonsd. 

I think your system uses the new SysFS Brightness interface which has
128 or maybe 256 brightness steps on your system. You could check this
with the program Powerprefs, go to the display page (light bulb) and
check which "Driver" is currently active in pbbuttonsd to control the
display brightness.

The programming of the graphics card's backlight controller is done by
the kernel. There might be various reasons for setting the max
brightness level as it is. Maybe the OpenBSD guys love to take higher
risks regarding their hardware? Who knows ;-) You might want to ask this
question on the kernel mailing list as well.

 Best Regards
   Matthias


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PowerBook G4 screen in Debian not as bright as Mac OS X or OpenBSD

2007-08-10 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Hey guys,

I have Debian 'etch' installed on this system and my God it is a beautiful
system. It gives life back into this old baby. No major issues at all. Great job
by the developers!

However, I have a small issue with the brightness level. I had OpenBSD (4.1) and
Mac OS X (10.4) installed at one point and the brightness level was much higher
than what I have here in Debian. I installed pbbuttonsd and brightness keys were
working but still can't get it as bright as OpenBSD or OS X. Searching the ppc
mailinglist suggest the use of ikeys to give 15 brightness levels? But checking
aptitude it seems that this package is out of date and would conflict with the
installed pbbuttonsd.

Any suggestions? Any one have similar experiences?

Thanks!

Amit


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