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Project of New Arabic Television Satellite Channel ( Partners )
Arab Enterprise Television Radio (AESAT)URL: http://aesat.tk Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]--- Dear madam/Sir, We are planning to building a new Arabic Satellite Television and/or Radio Channel for ADVERTISING.We looking forpartners support and corporation ( Full Teleport Services (satellite space and uplink service), License from your country and more ). We looking for start with Nilesat Arabsat covering all Arab aria cost is very important.Our TV and Radio channels will be interesting in Arab and Medal East (Travel, Decoration, Arab Wedding, Food Restaurants, Fashions, fairs .. without any political content)AESAT will be first ADVERTISING channel satellite television network to broadcast to the Arab world.1. Most of our viewers in the Arab aria.2. All of our programs recorded and ready to shipped to your center (No live programs).3. Content of the programs not yet ready ( for now It will be interesting in Arab and Medal East Travel, Decoration, Food Restaurants, Fashions, fairs .. as advertisings ). 4. We looking start our transmissions next summer (June/July 2004). 5. The origin of our programs is Egyptian Arab countries6. We do not have satellite license till now. We looking to get it from non Arab countries. Do you have any advice? 7. we will be looking for play out our programs from your teleport.8. It will be (6) hours a day (the beginning) (Digital bands). We are also looking for long period corporation (It's permanent Channel not a temporary Channel).9. We not looking for invest a big amount at the beginning.We looking for the best offer of uplink services soon.If you can help us. It will be appreciated, if you send us details about all your business and how you can help.I'm look forward to your early reply.Also .. We are ready to cooperate with you based on appointing us as your sales commission agent or partner in Egypt.Appreciating your Cooperation.Best regards,Abdalla ElNaserDirectorArab Enterprise Television RadioEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Giza 12211, Cairo, Egypt.Phone: + Fax ++(20-2) 572-4971My Mobil: ++(20-10) 530-7899
debian extensions.
Hi, I have been using a windows pc @ office, but use many open tools on it. I have been testing mozilla whenever they used to release new versions. But stability memory hog were a major issue. With Firebird latest release (0.7), it shines and matches IE. And when it comes to features, one who hasn't seen the extension revolution of mozilla is in for a big surprise. It just rocks!! I think, in linux distro arena, many have started their own variants just for having some special feature that they want in their distro. Somehow these distros might fulfill that special purpose well, however they can't obviously do all that's required for a distro to sustain, quite as well as one should. I have a suggestion. Debian should come up with some way that allows people to sort of extend the distro like a mozilla extension.Ok, I know the comparison is shaky, these 2 things are quite different, but I guess u got the idea.We can prevent the forks, Debian doesn't have any problem as maybe RH might have to allow others to rebrand/steal the spotlight..., so the people that extend, can get some of the credit.. but debian can keep some of the places where the origin can become obvious. Debian will be immensely benefited, as the effort to produce an extension on existing solid distro will be smaller that the full blown distro even for something like a floppy/cd based distro. This will probably require some reorganisation legal issues of core distro the extension, but it will be worth it! ,regards, prasad
Re: debian extensions.
On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 07:57, prasad wrote: This isn't really anything to do with Policy, removed from the Cc: I have a suggestion. Debian should come up with some way that allows people to sort of extend the distro like a mozilla extension. We already have this; anybody can set up an APT repository and users can add the appropriate lines to their sources.list, extending the list of packages available to them. Isn't that what you're after? Scott -- Have you ever, ever felt like this? Had strange things happen? Are you going round the twist? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 03:10:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: I further caution that it is dangerous to draw conclusions on the feelings of the project based on the unauthenticated responses of only a small minority of developers. More than 10% responded. AFAIK, that's way more than in any political survey. On the other hand, the samples in political surveys are usually better chosen to be representative. Still, I think a significant number of DDs has responded in order to make this strawpoll have a meaning. Michael
Re: debian extensions.
Scott James Remnant wrote: On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 07:57, prasad wrote: I have a suggestion. Debian should come up with some way that allows people to sort of extend the distro like a mozilla extension. We already have this; anybody can set up an APT repository and users can add the appropriate lines to their sources.list, extending the list of packages available to them. Isn't that what you're after? hmm, look at it this way, what would make people create some sort of extension that atttaches to debian, instead of creating/forking an existing distro, to create their own specialised thing. for example, various CD/floppy based special purpose distros. If this requires, these ppl to set up apt repository (which I am not sure will do the trick), then this probably needs to be made so easy, that (most of) them would never bother to think of their own way. Maybe then we need to persue a few of debian inspired forks to move over. But if this sort of thing is is easy enough well publicised, it will at least add a few of new efforts starting within the new extensible debian tag. This will just be the boost that will make debian, what open office, mozilla are to their respective categories. Heck, look @ what people r doing to google, I am sure you have seen the graphical mapping of various search results of google. This seems like how unix filter utilities extend the overall power of the system. /prasad Scott
Re: debian extensions.
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 01:27:02PM +0530, prasad wrote: I have a suggestion. Debian should come up with some way that allows people to sort of extend the distro like a mozilla extension.Ok, I know the comparison is shaky, these 2 things are quite different, but I guess u got the idea.We can prevent the forks, Debian doesn't have any problem as maybe RH might have to allow others to rebrand/steal the spotlight..., so the people that extend, can get some of the credit.. but debian can keep some of the places where the origin can become obvious. Debian will be immensely benefited, as the effort to produce an extension on existing solid distro will be smaller that the full blown distro even for something like a floppy/cd based distro. I'd like us to put out something like developer snapshots that aren't quite full releases (specifically, their installation system may not be ready, and they're allowed to have other weaknesses) but would nevertheless let third parties build their own releases on top of them. I haven't really developed the thought much, but there's an upcoming conference at which I hope to try to thrash out this idea or something similar. This will probably require some reorganisation legal issues of core distro the extension, but it will be worth it! I shouldn't think there would be any legal issues, but it would certainly require reorganization. BTW, this shouldn't be on -policy. Redirected to -project only. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address
[posting again to the proper list. Sorry...] Andrew Suffield wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 03:10:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: (...) I don't think this really makes sense. For instance, in the poll, 76% of the people opposed use as a general purpose address, but 92% supported putting it on one's personal homepage. I'm really curious what those people were thinking, since that seems an outright contradiction. I'd interpret it as I don't think it's a good idea to use it for everything, but I don't see a real problem with doing it sometimes, because that way it makes sense. That is, it's discouraged, but nobody really cares. I interpret differently: General advertising (like posting on personal webpage - together with other email addresses, phone numbers and physical addresses) is fine, but general *usage* is not ok. I understood the poll as a tool to figure out what would be relevant for a General Resolution - or a help for our Project Leader to make a judgement (if it is in his power to judge in this matter). It seems for a possible GR it should be made clear what is meant by putting on one's personal homepage. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ - Enden er nær: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm
Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 11:08:12AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Andrew Suffield wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 03:10:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: (...) I don't think this really makes sense. For instance, in the poll, 76% of the people opposed use as a general purpose address, but 92% supported putting it on one's personal homepage. I'm really curious what those people were thinking, since that seems an outright contradiction. I'd interpret it as I don't think it's a good idea to use it for everything, but I don't see a real problem with doing it sometimes, because that way it makes sense. That is, it's discouraged, but nobody really cares. I interpret differently: General advertising (like posting on personal webpage - together with other email addresses, phone numbers and physical addresses) is fine, but general *usage* is not ok. What the heck is the difference? Note that the owner of an email address is the single person who does not use it; it's used by all the people who send him mail, and he has little or no control over what they do. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 10:55:30AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: I further caution that it is dangerous to draw conclusions on the feelings of the project based on the unauthenticated responses of only a small minority of developers. More than 10% responded. AFAIK, that's way more than in any political survey. On the other hand, the samples in political surveys are usually better chosen to be representative. Still, I think a significant number of DDs has responded in order to make this strawpoll have a meaning. IMO the poll questions should have been less suggestive and allow for greater variation in answers. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 03:10:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: We are not talking here about people making excessive use of resources (which is already covered under the DMUP if memory serves). For instance, using a debian.org address as a contact on a domain probably generates, at most, 30K of traffic *per year*. Umm. You obviously don't get enough email :) I get random spams that are much larger than 30 KB. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 10:55:30AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 03:10:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: I further caution that it is dangerous to draw conclusions on the feelings of the project based on the unauthenticated responses of only a small minority of developers. More than 10% responded. AFAIK, that's way more than in any political survey. On the other hand, the samples in political surveys are usually better chosen to be representative. Still, I think a significant number of DDs has responded in order to make this strawpoll have a meaning. I'm not disputing that there is meaning present. I am just saying that the poll did not say that it was going to be used to develop policy, was not announced in devel-announce, etc. The meaning the poll has is to show this feelings of those surveyed. While those surveyed likely are the ones that have been most active in the discussion, we cannot necessarily extrapolate from that set to the developer body as a whole. It is improper to say from this survey that a majority of developers support x. It is proper to say a majority of those surveyed support x. -- John
Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 03:00:23PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 10:55:30AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: I further caution that it is dangerous to draw conclusions on the feelings of the project based on the unauthenticated responses of only a small minority of developers. More than 10% responded. AFAIK, that's way more than in any political survey. On the other hand, the samples in political surveys are usually better chosen to be representative. Still, I think a significant number of DDs has responded in order to make this strawpoll have a meaning. IMO the poll questions should have been less suggestive and allow for greater variation in answers. Well, yeah, perhaps. FTR, it took me quite some time and several revisions to figure out the questions as I presented them. I did not want to pose too much questions, in order to not scare off people right away. I don't argue that the questions could have been better, but as you probably noticed this is a sensible subject and I guess somebody would have always considered the questions suggestive, no matter how smart they might have been. It's probably an intrinsic problem of the issue. I agree that more answers would have been useful, though. But all that taken into account - majorities of more than 75% are well beyond your typical signal/noise ratio or sampling error. YMMV. Michael -- Sui88 67% of girls are stupid V-girl i belong with the other 13%
Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 09:46:39AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: We are not talking here about people making excessive use of resources (which is already covered under the DMUP if memory serves). For instance, using a debian.org address as a contact on a domain probably generates, at most, 30K of traffic *per year*. Umm. You obviously don't get enough email :) I get random spams that are much larger than 30 KB. Yes, but are they a direct result of using a debian.org address as a contact on a domain? Like I said, they're random, but if they're audacious enough to send me up to 2 MB of images (yes, I've had it happen -- had I not, I wouldn't believe someone would ever do that), I don't see why they would somehow show the courtesy of not spamming addresses used in whois. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address
Josip Rodin wrote: Like I said, they're random, but if they're audacious enough to send me up to 2 MB of images (yes, I've had it happen -- had I not, I wouldn't believe someone would ever do that), I don't see why they would somehow show the courtesy of not spamming addresses used in whois. Searched the web for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Results 1 - 10 of about 33,600. Search took 0.26 seconds. A single whois entry is a drop in the ocean. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian extensions.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Clinging to sanity, Colin Watson mumbled in his beard: On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 01:27:02PM +0530, prasad wrote: I have a suggestion. Debian should come up with some way that allows people to sort of extend the distro like a mozilla extension.[...] I feel that this is already working quite good - Knoppix, Xandros, and others making Debian-based distributions. The thing that perhaps is missing is a user-oriented place where people can read about what Debian variants are out there. I'd like us to put out something like developer snapshots that aren't quite full releases (specifically, their installation system may not be ready, and they're allowed to have other weaknesses) but would nevertheless let third parties build their own releases on top of them. Hmm. I can't see the benefit of a developer snapshot over a distributor taking a more or less arbitrary subset of testing at some time - unless you'd want DDs do some quality assurances of these snapshots (so they are a good deal better than current testing, which I found to be in a generally quite good shape). Does Debian have this manpower? Or could these snapshots help the devel process enough to make it worthwile to allocate the manpower? Disclaimer: I haven't thought more than 30s about this, so probably I'm missing a lot of what you were thinking. greets - -- vbi - -- Il mondo e' brutto, ahime' come il peccato, e quasi altrettanto delizioso. -- Frederick Locker-Lampson (1821-1895), poeta inglese -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: get my key from http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/92082481 iKcEARECAGcFAkAVRj9gGmh0dHA6Ly9mb3J0eXR3by5jaC9sZWdhbC9ncGcvZW1h aWwuMjAwMjA4MjI/dmVyc2lvbj0xLjUmbWQ1c3VtPTVkZmY4NjhkMTE4NDMyNzYw NzFiMjVlYjcwMDZkYTNlAAoJEIukMYvlp/fWC4sAn25aT5YgKmfkGyLPwsU26GeS 2Fz3AJsEL01Kbeg8ul91BEzFqzPemFH+4Q== =VPfW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 01:43:45PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Like I said, they're random, but if they're audacious enough to send me up to 2 MB of images (yes, I've had it happen -- had I not, I wouldn't believe someone would ever do that), I don't see why they would somehow show the courtesy of not spamming addresses used in whois. Searched the web for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Results 1 - 10 of about 33,600. Search took 0.26 seconds. A single whois entry is a drop in the ocean. Your point being...? One instance of publishing is quite enough to get spammed. Sure, already published addresses will already be spammed to hell and back, but no one ever said differently. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
Sun4u V2210 PB
Hello, We've try to install the last debian iso (version 3) on a SunFire V210, which have no cdrom, with tftp, but we get : Syntax error message when it finish to load de tftpboot.img (tftp64.sun4u). We have a big urge to use debian on this kind of station. Any help would be great .. Thanks for answer ... IncrediMail - La messagerie électronique a enfin évolué - Cliquer ici
