Re: Please stop the Andrew Suffield spam
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are you talking about? This 'discussion' was started by Benjamin Mako Hill and the people who signed his 'pledge'. I was forced to respond, and as I noted in my first mail on the subject, I had not wanted to ever have to fight this battle. I've been letting people tell stories about me for ages without intervening. Since no one seems to have mentioned this on -project yet: http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/freesoftware/20050809-00.html and http://www.pledgebank.com/nokillfilepledge -- Michael Olson -- FSF Associate Member #652 -- http://www.mwolson.org/ Interests: anime, Debian, XHTML, wiki, Emacs Lisp /` |\ | | | IRC: mwolson on freenode.net: #hcoop, #muse, #pulug |_] | \| |_| Jabber: mwolson_at_hcoop.net pgpJjEcKodHae.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [jargon] please add don't feed the troll
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 11:43:50AM +0200, Siward de Groot wrote: Package: jargon Version: 4.0.0-4 Severity: wishlist With the current discussion about trolling on debian-project i tried 'dict troll' to find what it was about. 'troll' is well described in jargon, but it contains a note about don't feed the troll that mentions that it exists, but not what it is. Adam McKenna posted a contribution in which this concept is defined : The trolls are only half of the problem with Debian lists. The other half of the problem is that many people can't restrain themselves from replying to comments that are arguably trollish with an equivalent amount of vitriol (also known as 'feeding the troll'). Could you please add this definition to jargon ? I am CCing debian-project in case someone disagrees with this definition, in which case they can attach their opinion to this bug in the BTS. Yes, I disagree with this definition. To feed a troll is to give the troll the satisfaction of having disrupted a discussion; there is no particular requirement that the responses be vitriolic, merely that the discussion is disrupted by directing the attention of the group to the troll's comments. This is what makes it particularly insulting to call someone a troll who isn't, because the implication is that their primary goal is to be disruptive. Oh, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a bug submission address... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:22:26PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:09:16PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: My response is simply this: it's lies. I challenge anybody who thinks otherwise to present evidence. So far (three days) we've had one person try, and give up after I explained every case. I think that says a lot for the accuracy of the accusations. Fascinating how many people are willing to accuse where they won't be challenged, but when called onto the carpet to defend their claims, they become silent. Would you really agree that any post of yours was inflammatory, rude, unhelpful etc if one was presented? I'm doubtful. Fortunately nobody needs to justify their decision to killfile you to anyone but themselves. Or even a decision for a group to collectively killfile you. On d-private you continue to claim that your original post was misunderstood but haven't revealed your true meaning in a way that anyone else can understand. Consider the possibility that if your entire audience misunderstood you, you did not communicate your true meaning. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened to archive.debian.org?
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 20:30 -0500, Thomas Bliesener wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping -c3 archive.debian.org PING archive.debian.org (208.185.25.38): 56 data bytes --- archive.debian.org ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss You may be interested on reading: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/05/msg00150.html -- David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.damog.net/ Debian Developer - The Universal OS - http://www.debian.org/ GPG: C671257D - 6EF6 C284 C95D 78F6 0B78 FFD3 981C 5FD7 C671 257D Signed mail welcome. Encrypted mail preferred. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#159511: real college girls Roderick
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New Maintainers
This is a summary of the AM report for Week Ending 14 Aug 2005. 5 applicants became maintainers. David Moreno Garza damog My name is David Moreno Garza, I'm 20 years old, studying Computer and Electronic Engineering at UIA, in Mexico City. I started using Debian just a couple of years ago, introduced by some friends in high school, and since then, I've seen a wonderful concept, a nice ideology for knowledge, community and freedom. I started helping Debian doing some translations to Spanish, specially DWN, and the d-i installation manual. Also, I have several packages on the archive, aimed to desktop or mathematics related, which are the areas where I work with in the real world. I'm helping also, with a couple of Ruby packages, language I find pretty elegant and fun. Recently, I started dcontrol subproject of Debian Desktop. dcontrol stands for Debian Control Center, where we are working to bring a complete configuration panel for desktop/newbie users of Debian, which we believe more work is needed. Lots of people are interested and starting to help. The idea is to bring a tool unified for anything configurable on a Debian system, without any pain. What I plan to do for Debian also, is to work with the QA team, packing desktop (specially GNOME) stuff and probably, in the future, support organizing Debconf6 in Mexico. And, of course, keep on packing interesting software and bringing it to Debian. Yutaka Niibe gniibe Well, my little history. It was 1988, when I first read GNU Manifest. It was 1990, when I first sent bug report to RMS. It was 1992, when I knew Linux. I became PLIP driver maintainer of Linux, it was 1993-1998. I've ported Linux (kernel) to SuperH architecture, it was 1999, and maintained. We established the Free Software Initiative of Japan in 2002. The reason I work for Free Software is, it is very important to our society, and I believe Free Software is the best way of cooperation. Cai Qian caiqian I am current a postgraduate in China. I have used Linux for 4 years with a variety of distros, and finally find Debian. I must say: Debian is best one for me. As I use it more with everyday work, I am eager to involve in and help this project. I think this is a way to give back to free software community. On the other hand, lots of chinese people want to involve in Debian, but they faces some kinds of problem, such as reading English docs, hard to get PGP signed with a offical DD(there are only 2 chinese) and etc. So I think I can help them in some way and introduce more softwares to Debian to benefit them. Martin Zobel-Helas zobel I am an 26 year old computer science student living in Rossdorf (near Darmstadt), Germany. I discoverd the world of open source software and Linux somewhere around 1996 and installed my first Debian about 4 years later. I was delighted on the easy update mechanismn Debian had. I attended the real life Bug Squashing Party in Munich in April 2004, and helped later on in organizing the real life BSPs in Darmstadt in August and in Frankfurt in November. I also try to help with porting issues in ways of giving access to hardware platforms. I also helped on several fairs to run a booth for the Debian project. I am interessted in helping bringing up support for debian-volatile (which mirror-coordination i currently do). I would be also interested in maintaining further parts of volatiles infrastructure. Kilian Krause kilian Kilian is involved in packaging pwlib/openh323/gnomemeeting and other packages; see http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2004/02/msg1.html for more information. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Maintainers
* Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-15 02:00]: This is a summary of the AM report for Week Ending 14 Aug 2005. 5 applicants became maintainers. I know for a fact that some accounts were created in the last weeks that were neither mentioned in the weekly mail on -newmaint nor in a New Maintainers mail here. This is probably due to the db.debian.org move in between. Has anyone a list of these accounts? Only one, Helen Faulkner helen, accounted created on 2005-07-15 afaict but for some reason she doesn't show up in http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2005/07/msg00062.html Helen Faulkner helen I am a physicist, currently working in Sheffield, UK, though I'll be moving back to Australia in a few months. Australia is home for me :) I have a general interest in computers and programming which originated in my research (I do a lot of simulation and theory calculations). I have been using Linux for a few years now, since my housemate bugged me into letting him install Debian on my computer ;) I guess I initially used it because I was curious to learn about Linux and I found increasingly that the software available was useful for my work. I now use Debian for almost 100% of my work and most of my other activities with computers. I agree with the ideals of the open source software movement, would like to see more of its idea happening in academic science, and generally think it's a great thing for humanity to discover at this point in history. Debian appeals to me because it embodies the ideals of that movement very well, and because I enjoy using it. I want to volunteer my time for Debian because I enjoy doing volunteer work in things that interest me (have done loads of volunteer work before, in varied fields, including sailing tall ships, visiting elderly people with my dog, being involved in mentoring schemes at uni, etc). This is the first volunteer work I have done in an area like this, and as such it appeals to me. This whole Debian thing is entertaining too! I intend to focus my work in Debian in two main areas. One is maintaining packages, mainly kde things, like the ones I am already maintaining. The other aim I have is to help make the debian-women project a working, effective resource for the Debian community. I think there is lots to do in that project, and that I have something to offer there :) -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
