Re: packages
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 08:37:31AM +1100, Craig Small wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:17:04PM -0800, Ashley Ward wrote: I'm interested in learning how debian is able to have so many packages maintained. What is the process you use to compile them. How do you keep up with all the different software sources? snip craig's intro Next we have about 20 architectures that most packages need to be built on. Generally a package is uploaded once and works on a standard PC (i386). We have a bunch of systems called buildd[1] that take the new packages and builds them for the other architectures. I have an (incomplete out-of-date) diagram of the way in which the software building process is automated here[0]. As was noted, Debian has a lot of packages and to make this useable in a reasonible time frame, a lot of automation is required for ever part of the Debian system. There are bug trackers, software package status pages, software package builders, multiple communication channels (irc -- for realtime communication, mailing lists for regular asynchrous discussions, world-wide meeting to deal with long-term project goals or single topics, bug sprints). There are also tools that check the packages before they are included in the distro like lintian so that the software package meets some basic project standards, and tools that handle the migration from the 'unstable' stream to the 'testing' stream. Debian developer are always busy maintaining or developing tools to make their jobs easier. Hope that answers some more of your question. Feel free to ask a more specific question if needed. -K [0] http://mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/newdebian2.png -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
written delegations
Le Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 06:15:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Le Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:45:40AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit : I see much more gain in update the description of what does FTP masters do ( http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/FTPMaster ) than in renaming the team. Or better, having a written DPL delegation rather than an oral tradition… http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/04/msg7.html Sure, for the who there is already such a written trace. But I was actually thinking about the what. That would be in particular useful for newcommers, and would prevent drifts. For instance, we just had a discussion on sections. How can one guess that it is the FTP team – rather than for instance the release team or the developers themselves – that is responsable for deciding which package is in which section, if one came to Debian after the archive was reorganised into pools? More painfully, we just had two GRs which originate in a disagreement about what delegates are delegated to do. Definitely, written delegations could be really useful to Debian to clarify prerogatives and responsabilities, and avoid misunderstandings. (added to http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny ) Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: written delegations
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:16:18PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Definitely, written delegations could be really useful to Debian to clarify prerogatives and responsabilities, and avoid misunderstandings. Sorry, but this sounds like micro-managing delegates to me. If you think sections are under-documented see whether you can improve on policy or the developer's reference maybe. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Debconf Group Photos needed
Hi, for designing a poster I am searching for group photos of the following Debconfs: * Debconf 2 * Debconf 3 * Debconf 4 They should have reasonable size for printing on large-size posters. Hints and links welcome, as well as eMailed once. Greetings Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@debian.org | Debian System Administrator Debian GNU/Linux Developer | Debian Listmaster Public key http://zobel.ftbfs.de/5d64f870.asc - KeyID: 5D64 F870 GPG Fingerprint: 5DB3 1301 375A A50F 07E7 302F 493E FB8E 5D64 F870 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bits from the DPL
* Steve McIntyre [Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:08:39 +]: Declassification of debian-private archives --- Back in December 2005, we agreed in a GR [16] that we should start declassifying (at least some of) the contents of the debian-private mailing list once three years had passed. Well, that's now... If we're going to follow through on that resolution, we will need volunteers to start working on this. If you're interested in joining a team to do that, please let me know. There's probably a lot of boring work to be done here, but I'm hoping we can find some way to automate much of it. :-) Since [1] got no negative feedback, I opened RT#993 to ask for the creation of declassify-t...@debian.org. (Unfortunately before I knew a call for a team would be made in the Bits mail, otherwise I would've waited.) But this was acked by leader@, and the alias is operative now. (It just goes to an mbox in master, nobody is behind the forward yet.) [1]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2008/12/msg00149.html Cheers, -- Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es Debian Developer adeodato at debian.org - Oh my God, you're pimping me out for a new roof? - And windows! -- Andrew and Bree Van De Kamp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Pytanie w sprawie współpracy oraz rozwoju obu stron.
Mam pytanie odnośnie reklamy na swojej stronie. Czy pytania oraz propozycje wpółpracy mam kierować do Państwa czy też do głównej siedziby Debiana? Buduję nowy serwis poświęcony tematyce zabezpieczenia serwerów, planowany start 11 march 2009. Pozdrawiam: Adrian Leppich :::www.hackzone.pl::: -=Scarlatti=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org