Re: does Debian help detect gravitational waves?

2016-02-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

> Since "Pure Blends" is a TM, i.e. means smth specific now (which is
> great), NeuroDebian shouldn't get under the "Pure Blends" section.
> Actually may be some blends listed there aren't really "Pure Blends"
> (not yet at least) in the notion that they use pure blends
> machinery (e.g. FreedomBox)
>
> But since url suggests generic "blends", it might make sense indeed to
> make clearer distinction of Pure Blends from other beasts.  This way,
> whenever glorious day comes that there is Pure Blends selection
> interface within d-i, there would be no confusion ;)  Then
> NeuroDebian could qualify as some kind of "Meta Blend" (since going
> across blends) or just some kind of a generic "Blend".

We have some terminology definitions on the wiki page:

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends

Debian Pure Blends

Terminology

Pure Blend: a subset of Debian that is configured to support a
particular target group out-of-the-box. One way to understand this is
a list of packages that gets installed to provide a focus of use.

Blend: a Debian-based distribution that is, or wants to become, a Pure
Blend - i.e. has as an explicit goal of improving Debian as a whole,
consequently all extras they offer will either become part of Debian,
or are temporary workarounds to solve a need of the target group which
can't be solved within Debian yet.

Flavor: upon installation of a Blend there often is a choice,
depending on the particular use, about what set of defaults to use. A
flavor is the name of such a set. (e.g. Skolelinux has flavors for
main-server, workstation, and thin-client-server)

Subproject: group of people within Debian working together on a common
purpose. In most cases this common purpose is either some specific
functionality (e.g. debian-multimedia) or a Blend (e.g.
debian-science).

Derivative: a distribution based on Debian, no matter its goals - e.g.
Ubuntu is a derivative; Debian Edu is a Debian Blend and also a Debian
Derivative.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise



Any Debian support for CubaConf

2016-02-23 Thread Valessio Brito
Hello guys,

How Debian could make a support for realization of CubaConf[1]?

CubaConf = Conferencia Internacional de Software Libre April 25-27 -
Cuban Art Factory Havana/Cuba

Is sponsoring a Debian Developer to attend/talking the event or
collaborating with some of the expenses. I know we have such limited
resources. But the values are not very supportive[2].

Personally, already I requested the production of 50 Debian t-shirts.
I will sell at cost price (~$8) as an incentive to promotion of Debian Project.
Or have a InstallFest[3], and each computer with Debian wins a t-shirt free.

I think the important thing for the success of the event is to have
Debian developers participating. Anyone DD near Cuba, go to CubaConf.
Plz!


[1] http://www.cubaconf.org/
[2] http://www.cubaconf.org/sponsoring/
[3] http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Installfest-HOWTO/introduction.html


Best regards,
Valessio Brito



Re: Frustrated

2016-02-23 Thread Hans-Georg Bork
On 02/01/2016 08:13 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> palmal palmal  writes:
> 
>> Here is the answer:why you allowed microsoft to get inwolwe and build
>> their product on your operating system?
> 
> Anyone have any idea what this is referring to?  I think the original
> poster has a whole bunch of misinformation (and I'm sorry that they had a
> bad experience with jessie), but I have no idea what this specific point
> could even mean.
> 

It might be a referral to either Microsoft Linux [1] or is ACS [2]
(partly) based on debian?


[1]: http://www.mslinux.org/
[2]:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/18/microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux_repeat_microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux/

May I have some cake as well? :)

-- hgb



Debian Maintainers Keyring changes

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Re: does Debian help detect gravitational waves?

2016-02-23 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

On Tue, 23 Feb 2016, Andreas Tille wrote:

> > Therefore I don't see a reason why it is not listed on
> > .

> I would consider it apropriate to list NeuroDebian there but finally
> the initiative should come from the people behind NeuroDebian.

Since "Pure Blends" is a TM, i.e. means smth specific now (which is
great), NeuroDebian shouldn't get under the "Pure Blends" section.
Actually may be some blends listed there aren't really "Pure Blends"
(not yet at least) in the notion that they use pure blends
machinery (e.g. FreedomBox)

But since url suggests generic "blends", it might make sense indeed to
make clearer distinction of Pure Blends from other beasts.  This way,
whenever glorious day comes that there is Pure Blends selection
interface within d-i, there would be no confusion ;)  Then
NeuroDebian could qualify as some kind of "Meta Blend" (since going
across blends) or just some kind of a generic "Blend".

-- 
Yaroslav O. Halchenko
Center for Open Neuroscience http://centerforopenneuroscience.org
Dartmouth College, 419 Moore Hall, Hinman Box 6207, Hanover, NH 03755
Phone: +1 (603) 646-9834   Fax: +1 (603) 646-1419
WWW:   http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik



Re: does Debian help detect gravitational waves?

2016-02-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 06:58:14PM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> 
> - Not that I wish that upon ourselves, but rather to accent
>   importance/significance/value of some folks... I wonder where Debian
>   Science and Med would end up if Andreas changed his job/moved to
>   another direction (I have seen many things happened in my lifetime).

Well, Debian Med is safe regarding me changing my job (even if it would
lose its main contributor the team is strong enough to cope with this).
I actually regard the status that I'm not evident for the survival of
Debian Med as the main outcome of all my involvement.

My work in Debian Science is quite limited.  My main job is sponsoring
other peoples packages and forward interesting ITPs.
 
> but I would say -- such disgussion wouldn't be productive, so
> let's stop here for now ;)

Fine for me - but I wanted to clarify the statement above. :-)

Kind regards

  Andreas. 

-- 
http://fam-tille.de



Re: does Debian help detect gravitational waves?

2016-02-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 08:45:02AM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote:
> In my opinion, that is the point: NeuroDebian does not look any
> different to me than f.e. DebiChem or Debian Astro, or DebianMed. It has
> some interesting developments however (the extensive backports solution,
> f.e.)

BTW, the whole Blends framework was assembled by picking interesting
solutions from different user oriented groups and make them generally
available for all other user oriented ... and finally found a common
name for these.

Following these idea you can turn NeuroDebian into a Blend by
implementing their features into the Blends framework (since you can
not convince them to do this themselves ;-) ).
 
> Therefore I don't see a reason why it is not listed on
> .

I would consider it apropriate to list NeuroDebian there but finally
the initiative should come from the people behind NeuroDebian.

Kind regards

  Andreas. 

-- 
http://fam-tille.de



Re: does Debian help detect gravitational waves?

2016-02-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 03:24:14PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> > BTW, while building bigger plans -- who is going to the next Debconf? ;)
> 
> I hope to be there.

+1 

-- 
http://fam-tille.de



Re: Frustrated

2016-02-23 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, at 11:11, Michael Meskes wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 10:12:59PM +, koanhead wrote:
> > The cake reference makes me think of Microsoft's presence at LinuxFest 
> > Northwest last year in Bellingham, WA. MS had a booth there touting their 
> > Azure service and giving out blue cake. Possibly they have given away 
> > cake at other venues as well- I understand they can afford a lot of cake.
> 
> Well, they did give away the cake for one reason, to celebrate Debian's
> birthday. No idea why this could be bad though.

Well, I got a life-threat email into my INBOX for removing support for
sqlite (2.x, the one old obsolete version) from PHP[*].

Not everything on the Internet does have to make sense :).

(* - Not to mention that some would argue that packaging PHP is a
life-threat on it's own :))). 

Cheers,
-- 
Ondřej Surý 
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