Re: Short tribute video in honor of Ian Murdock in FOSDEM
Amaya wrote: > José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez wrote: > > Hi, I just commited the photos in git with a txt explaining them, with > > their context, without sending an email. > > Tell me if you need an email with more information. > > Can you include a license for the files? > Thanks! There is already one, please disregard my previous msg. -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :strong at the broken places.- Ernest Hemingway `. `' `-Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Short tribute video in honor of Ian Murdock in FOSDEM
José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez wrote: > Hi, I just commited the photos in git with a txt explaining them, with > their context, without sending an email. > Tell me if you need an email with more information. Can you include a license for the files? Thanks! -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :strong at the broken places.- Ernest Hemingway `. `' `-Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Short tribute video in honor of Ian Murdock in FOSDEM
Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > Valessio Brito and yours truly have offered time to prepare it. I have given Ana mine, but please also look into these: https://joeyh.name/pics/debconf/4/afp.jpg Make sure to choose the bigger size for these, hosted at debconf.org They belong to Debconf4 (Portoalegre, Brazil, 2004) https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=14841 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=16367 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15917 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=16235 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=16259 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=14608 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=14611 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15142 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15148 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15140 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15168 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15402 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15548 From: https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=ian+murdock https://www.flickr.com/photos/linux_ssa/400574184/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/alexdeoliveira/319652889/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/juantomas/124739109/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/juanje/45206140/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/warthog9/342831/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/jimgris/2471389340/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/textdriveinc/470533469/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/sebsto/490863958/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2398474826/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ed/3617707330/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2398462112/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2397646593/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2398479060/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2398477046/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/mlinksva/2412251544/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2398478158/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/mlinksva/2411422041/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/mlinksva/2411424021/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/warthog9/342916/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/jimgris/2471389340/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/tmolini/2420732067/ ... there are just too many. -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :strong at the broken places.- Ernest Hemingway `. `' `-Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Fwd: potential awards for Ian Murdock
Zlatan Todoric wrote: > Also, as community, we should honor him this year in some special > (Debian) way (my opinion, others can disagree). We should prominently dedicate our next release to him, IMHO. -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :strong at the broken places.- Ernest Hemingway `. `' `-Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Thanks Russ for all your hard work
Andreas Tille wrote: > I just feel the need to express my deep thanks to all your work in > Debian specifically in the endless systemd debate. While I'm > personally very neutral and just expect my computer to boot (which it > does with systemd) I really appreciate all your sensible and always > patient mails on the mailing list in situations where possibly every > other person would have become crazy. Yes, yes and yes. -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :strong at the broken places.- Ernest Hemingway `. `' `-Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141114180814.GR21507@aenima
Re: Time for compassion and the Init GR
Ian Jackson wrote:
> Sam Hartman writes ("Time for compassion and the Init GR"):
> > [stuff]
>
> Thanks for putting all of that into words.
Ditto. Very well said.
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Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project
Russ Allbery wrote: > I think, rather than saying that we won't discriminate on the basis of > something like technical ability, we should instead say something along > the lines of: > > We welcome contributions from everyone within their areas of > particular expertise. While much of the work of the Project is > technical in nature, we will value and encourage contributions to the > Project from those with expertise in non-technical areas and welcome > such contributors as part of our community. http://pinterest.com/pin/244953667202151755/ :) -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :strong at the broken places.- Ernest Hemingway `. `' `-Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120325071931.GB3434@aenima
Re: Scientific article on Debian in PNAS
Michael Hanke writes: > Unfortunately not open-access, but arxiv.org has the PDF http://arxiv.org/pdf/.5251 -- .''`.When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries : :' : disappear and life stands explained -- Mark Twain `. `' `-Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111205133107.GA4400@aenima
Re: What is annoying in the flattr buttons?
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > It's going to be a condorcet-based poll where you have to rank the > following statements: I'm annoyed by Flattr buttons because > * The picture catches the attention too much in a post which contains >only text. > * The picture allows Flattr to gather statistics about me. > * Debian contributors should not make money from posts syndicated on >planet. > * I believe Flattr is a bad micro-donation system and it should not be >promoted. > * The button indirectly promotes a service run by a private company >unrelated to Debian. > * I don't share the concerns quoted below. (i.e. NOTA) * All of the above, which I personally endorse. Thanks -- ·''`. If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, : :' : come sit next to me - Alice Roosevelt Longworth `. `' `-Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A Tattoo
Tapio Lehtonen wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:24:06AM +0100, Amaya wrote: > > In that case, worry about the tattoo artist. > > Nobody in the Debian Community will complain about a well done tattoo. > > I will. Tattoos, the permanent kind, are nauseous. If my opinion is > asked, I say nobody should take any tattoo. That so easily fixed! Just don't get a tattoo. It is s simple: live and let live. -- ·''`. Science is a lot like sex. Sometimes something useful comes of it, : :' : but that's not the reason we're doing it - Richard Feynman `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: A Tattoo
Thiago Fazzio wrote: > Today i will make my first tattoo, and i will make the Debian Swirl Logo ... Congratulations, welcome to the club. Thee is several of us sporting WONDERFUL Debian swirls, tux penguins, even gpg fingerprints. > Debian changes my life, for many ways, and now i will make this change > for ever on my left arm ... =] I know what you mean. > Still i can use the complete Debian Logo on my tattoo, the swirl with > the Debian name ? I think, if you are not a DD you can't use the black bottle, that is all. > I wanna make a tattoo completely correct. IN tha case, worry about the tattoo artist. Nobody in the Debian Community will complain about a well done tattoo. -- ·''`. Science is a lot like sex. Sometimes something useful comes of it, : :' : but that's not the reason we're doing it - Richard Feynman `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Linux System Engineer (100%) in Zurich
Amaya wrote: > George Danchev wrote: > > > Men ARE discriminating women and kicking them off... > > > > Really? Worst, in some parts of the Earth people are dying for no good > > reasons... > > True. > And I don't see hoe your statement and her statement are related in any > way. Wait, now I see how your statements are related! On the parts of the Earth people are dying for no good reasons sexism seems to be stronger than on the others. -- ·''`. There's no arguing with Nature. : :' : Promises comfort fools. `. `' What are __YOU__ doing about it? `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux System Engineer (100%) in Zurich
George Danchev wrote: > > Men ARE discriminating women and kicking them off... > > Really? Worst, in some parts of the Earth people are dying for no good > reasons... True. And I don't see hoe your statement and her statement are related in any way. -- ·''`. There's no arguing with Nature. : :' : Promises comfort fools. `. `' What are __YOU__ doing about it? `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux System Engineer (100%) in Zurich
Chris Bannister wrote: > Obviously, it *is* discrimination. What can a 34.5 year old do that a > 35.5 year old can't do? Get you tax savings? Give you access to economic help for getting people a new job? Not that I think that it should be the *final* criteria. -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux System Engineer (100%) in Zurich
Noah Meyerhans wrote: > Personally, I can't see how any company that would turn away a more > qualified candidate in favor of one less qualified based solely on > something like age has much hope of lasting very long. Nor would I be > sorry to see it go. Well, in my experience, having two similarly skilled candidates, age can be a factor for hiring, as hiring under 35 yeras old people can get you a nice "discount" in taxes where I live. But of course I would not advertise it this way. -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NMU versioning
Kartik Mistry wrote: > someversion+nmu1, someversion+nmu2 for example see, bzflag package. It > is at 2.0.10.20071115+nmu1 right now. Thanks, that answers my question. -- ·''`. Come, let me sing into your ear, those dancing days are gone : :' : I carry the sun in a golden cup, the moon in a silver bag `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NMU versioning
James Vega wrote: > "The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, where > X is a counter starting at 1." I have found that NMUing native source packages is a bit tricky, as in, what is the consensuous regarding this increment? Where to increment? I hope I made myself understood, but I am at loss, not enough caffeine in bloodstream. -- ·''`. Come, let me sing into your ear, those dancing days are gone : :' : I carry the sun in a golden cup, the moon in a silver bag `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: $RANDOM_GMAIL_USER wants to chat
Dear listmasters, We are getting more and more of these emails, would it be very hard to filter them out? They sure make no sense, and have no place, in a mailing list. The pattern seems quite clear, and thus, should be easy to block: - Subject is $RANDOM_GMAIL_USER wants to chat - From has @gmail.com in it Thanks in advance! -- ·''`. Come, let me sing into your ear, those dancing days are gone : :' : I carry the sun in a golden cup, the moon in a silver bag `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please explain this violence
Eeric Evans wrote: > Please explain why the community tolerates that. We do not feed trolls, thank you very much. -- ·''`. Cheap beer & cheap chocolate - The real deal : :' : `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Please expulse Frans Pop from debian
Sven Luther wrote: > Hi, please read the following, and this may give you more of an > insight about the situation. Please stop this *now* -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Let us start a ombudsman team (was Re: Social Committee proposal).
Gustavo Franco wrote: > If needed we can ask in special cases (eg.: sven's case) the DPL to > delegate to the group some powers as in 5.1.2 - Lend authority to > other Developers (Debian constitution). > > Amaya Rodrigo Thanks, I feel *very* honoured. > Andreas Schuldei > Andreas Tille > Carlos Laviola > Erinn Clark > Felipe van de Wiel > Guilherme Pastore > Ian Murdock > Josip Rodin > Philip Hands > Raphael Hertzog I agree that the people you proppose are good candiates, but there's also other people I'd like to see involved in (or around) a project like this: Anyone out there feels inlined towards this kind of effort? I feel tempted to help out with the list, but I fear leaving good people out of it. There's plenty of decent, trustworthy, honest, well socialized, tolerant, moderate, well behaved, experienced in volunteer-driven-efforts related problems, both DDs and non-DDs. > Keep in mind that you just need some free time, an alioth account, > understand our goals helping us to achieve them and some love for the > Debian project. And the thick skin ;) -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help for OSS Survey
Sven Luther wrote: > Thanks, i think that debian will gain much by a neutral outsider > analysis of the situation, and as said, it is probably an interested > research topic for you :) As I understand it, his original topic of research was not what you are asking him to do. I would also love to see what people like Biella Coleman would come up with after studying "The DunkTank" effect. Why was there no such negative reaction back in the days where Ximian hired Gnome developers to do their Gnome work? Why is this so different in Debian, if Ximian's CEO was also the Gnome Project Leader? Why did the rest of the Gnome Developers accept this situation without the bitterness we've seen in Debian? I am also very interested in thir party observation and analisys by outsiders with tools coming from social studying fields, like anthropology, psicology or $insert_field_here. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch Stable.
Marc Haber wrote: > Otoh, I see a truckload of unpaid DDs vituperating and spreading bad > mood around the project. _That's_ the real harm that was caused - very > indirectly - by dunctank. I tend to agree with you. Real experiments are done in Lab conditions, in 0-gravity environments and the such. Calling this a "experiment" is at least bad wording. (My personal position is neither pro-money-for-DDs nor anti-money-for-DDs). But this is no serious experiment. I fear the huge troll upcoming when Etch is released instead of the the huge clustered BBQs areoung the globe. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tattoos (was: debian logo on commercial of the big mobilephones shops network)
Roland Mas wrote: > "This swirl? Yeah, I got it in the early days of Debian. I missed > the chicken by a few months, though. Oh well, it probably doesn't > mean a thing to you youngsters anyway." I still liked the chiken better :) And there's plenty of skin in my body for as many logos as may come. Lars, will you finally get away from not getting that tattoo if we don't release in time? ;) -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: (maybe) Debian history
Kevin Mark wrote: > (if this is not the exact forum, I guess some kind soul can wisk it > away to where it should be) I think curiosa is the one. Setting the reply-to there. > I was just flikr'ing at the spain i18n photos from aigarius and > thought that someone or someones who know about these things should > put a wiki page on the sorid, assorted, hidden world of cheese and > potent potables that seems to invade various and sundry events that > debianista attend hither and yon! Its Debian folk lore at its best! > I've only witnessed it via pixels but one day I shall bring some > solidfied milk products! When Debian geeks meet, they engage in several activities, not limited to cheese-sharing. There is also Wine BOFs, Mao card playing, sauna... I know I am forgetting plenty of them... -- ·''`. The geek shall inherit the earth : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NMUs and (auto-)subscription to the PTS
Adeodato Simó wrote: > ISTR a discussion about automatically subscribing NMUers to the PTS > for the package, and dropping the subscription with the next upload of > the package (be it a maintainer upload or not). That would be wonderful! I manually track the bugs of the packages I upload or sponsor using the developer.php qa web interface, but that is cumbersome, prone to mistakes, and plain painful. It basically only works well for RC bugs. I don't want to manually subscribe to every package bugs, and then have to manually unsubscribe, and track if there was any maintainer upload. Having it automatically done for me would be wonderful, specially because the kind of packages I target have had the latest upload with gcc 2 ;) and they usually fail when being autobuilt after upload. The bugs filed by the porting teams are RC only for release target arches, so the rest are hard to spot. > If there are no reasonable objections, I'll let this hang in my > ~/TODO. :) Please, pretty please do! -- ·''`. Policy is your friend. Trust the Policy. : :' : Love the Policy. Obey the Policy. -- Lars Wirzenius `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troll
Of course this want intended to be sent to Wouter and not to the list, sorry for the noise. -- .''`. Sometimes the littlest feet leave the biggest impressions : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troll
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Get a life. Wouter, please stop it. DO not feed the troll. I know your intentions are excellent. Still, ignoring it is the only way :* -- .''`. Sometimes the littlest feet leave the biggest impressions : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about stable updates
Hi Marga, I tend to agree with you. Let's calm down. Margarita Manterola wrote: > For the next time, it would be better if before asking the DPL to > relieve a fellow developer from his duties and making such a big plea > as you've made, you'd consider hearing all the different sides of the > story, taking into account the many additional factors, and then -and > only then- write such a petition. My perception, and maybe the perception of others, is that we, us poor mortals, are deprived from seeing both sides of the story on a regular basis. A recent mail from Aj to d-vote helped me understand, for example, the last keyring-mainteinance conflicts and timeline. But that mail is a rare exception, providing needed bits of information that James himself seldom bothers to offer, which makes sense as he is or seems to be so busy. http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/03/msg00263.html No rant here, just again wondering why we are *again* discussing this. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian is inside OpenPuppets' world
The Debian puppet is here: http://www.openpuppets.com/images/debian-p.png The image URL is broken in the english homepage. BTW, I am not really sure if this is just spam... -- .''`. sleep: command not found : :' : `. `'Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.6.10 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google ads on debian.org
martin f krafft wrote: > at the same time, i must add that i do not think we should allow > them. after all, why should google get to decide what might be > related? It may point clueless users in the right dueling banjos direction :) -- .''`. And now my bitter hands cradle broken glass of what was everything : :' : -- Pearl Jam. Black `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.6.8 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: Debian, lists and discrimination
No need to Cc: me. I'm subscribed. MJ Ray wrote: > The results seem to be selectively reported. Amaya, please publish the > full returns, like you wrote you would. Don't worry as soon as I get some spare time I will upload all the new submissions I have been getting, and yours will be on top of the page :-) Believe me, there are many VERY interesting contributions, and sincerely I have not even read yours or most of them thoroughly. I have had time to quickly look at them and see if a quick reply was needed and save them to the right mailbox. I don't see what the fuss is about. Oh, yeah! I forgot to mark myself as @vacation at db... Let me take care of that... -- .''`. Resistance is futile. You will be componentized. : :' : `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.6.6 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: Debian, lists and discrimination
MJ Ray wrote: > Of course, my views have not appeared on > http://debian-women.opensource-knowhow.com/supporters.html - it seems > there are only positive views there, even if some mention other skews. Been busy, I'm moving. I have a lot opf mail to be taken care of, and my #1 priority is the supporters page (which has nothing to do with the debian-women project as I clearly state). Is that explanation enough? -- .''`. Resistance is futile. You will be componentized. : :' : `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.6.6 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: OSNews artcle: Miguel is a Debian fan
I asked him. This is what he said himself: Miguel de Icaza wrote: > Hola! > > > Of course, it's unclear on what he meant with "we" above, whether it's > > the Gnome project, the Mono project, Ximian, SuSE or Novell. > > Gnome, Mono, Ximian, Novell ;-) > > Miguel He used to be little of a Debian fan, but with time he's come to terms :-) -- .''`." ...eso del software libre... zazu... violencia... " : :' : -- Miguel, Un amigo de Zazu `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.6.5 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian
Josip Rodin wrote: > One just can't escape certain truths :) Plonk! :-) -- .''`. Yo también estaba en esos trenes. I was also on those trains : :' : `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.4.20 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com Listening to Joaquín Sabina - Dímelo en la calle - 8 - Lagrimas de plastico azul
Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian
Mike Beattie wrote: > I'll only apologise to those that are unable to take such things with > a grain of salt. No need to apologise, really. The talk was probably intended to be amusing and the overall tone was light-hearted. But I want you to realize that this puts people off. I even felt like walking out of the talk. So did people like Mako or Enrico, as they both told me later, IIRC. On a side note, other real life examples. - At Debconf @ Toronto, BDale used grannies as examples of the worst kind of clueless users Debian should aim at. Susan happens to be a DD and a grannie, so he stood corrected, but refused my proposal to use Bush as an example for that :-) - On a talk at Madrid, Miguel de Icaza who is a close friend of mine BTW, used female secretaries as examples of clueless users. Again I am not angry, not accusing anyone. I only want to point out the kind of discourse that we all have to avoid in order to be more gender friendly. -- .''`. Yo también estaba en esos trenes. I was also on those trains : :' : `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.4.20 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian
Mike Beattie wrote: > Matt, I hate to burst your bubble, but IRC is not real life, Do you believe your talk @ Oslo was Real Life? > Your mail fairly much appears to say nothing. But that talk did say many things. And I was not the only one offended by it. It was extremely sexist. Debian looked like (and probably is) a boys club. Still, friendly... Amaya -- .''`. Yo también estaba en esos trenes. I was also on those trains : :' : `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.4.20 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
