Re: Referring to product's web site in description?

2009-08-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 08:37:38AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
 I'm packaging yubikey-personalization, a tool used to set the crypto
 keys for Yubikeys, which are OTP hardware tokens.  The tool is useless
 without a token, so I'm wondering if I should put a reference into the
 description for where people can read more about the tokens and possibly
 purchase one.  http://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey/ is the link I'd
 put in.
 
 Does people think that would be too much?  I'm divided on the issue --
 on one hand, I don't want Debian to end up plastered with ads, on the
 other hand, the tool is not useful without a token, so pointing people
 to where they can get one sounds reasonable.
 
 Ideas, suggestions, thoughts?

Sounds like the perfect job for README.Debian to me.

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Referring to product's web site in description?

2009-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen

Hi all,

I'm packaging yubikey-personalization, a tool used to set the crypto
keys for Yubikeys, which are OTP hardware tokens.  The tool is useless
without a token, so I'm wondering if I should put a reference into the
description for where people can read more about the tokens and possibly
purchase one.  http://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey/ is the link I'd
put in.

Does people think that would be too much?  I'm divided on the issue --
on one hand, I don't want Debian to end up plastered with ads, on the
other hand, the tool is not useful without a token, so pointing people
to where they can get one sounds reasonable.

Ideas, suggestions, thoughts?

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Re: Referring to product's web site in description?

2009-08-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Samstag, 8. August 2009, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
 Does people think that would be too much?  I'm divided on the issue --
 on one hand, I don't want Debian to end up plastered with ads, on the
 other hand, the tool is not useful without a token, so pointing people
 to where they can get one sounds reasonable.

Debian has software specific to IPods, IPaqs, S390s and Belgium national ID 
cards, to name a few from the top of my head, which are not useful without 
the hardware in question... there was also free software to access ebay or 
other non free services...

And I dont think having 50 or so of such packages in main is turning Debian 
into advertizing crap ;-) That's just so out of proportion what Debian is :)


Regarding the yubico URL, _maybe_ it would be a good idea to use a URL you 
control, so in case the site goes down... but then I guess you would remove 
the software too or update the URL..


regards,
Holger


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Re: Referring to product's web site in description?

2009-08-08 Thread Ben Finney
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:

 I'm packaging yubikey-personalization, a tool used to set the crypto
 keys for Yubikeys, which are OTP hardware tokens.  The tool is useless
 without a token, so I'm wondering if I should put a reference into the
 description for where people can read more about the tokens and possibly
 purchase one.  http://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey/ is the link I'd
 put in.
 
 Does people think that would be too much?  I'm divided on the issue --
 on one hand, I don't want Debian to end up plastered with ads, on the
 other hand, the tool is not useful without a token, so pointing people
 to where they can get one sounds reasonable.

I think that's a job, not for the Debian package information, but for
the project's home page. The package description should give enough
information for the reader to understand whether they want the package
on their system.

The job of the ‘Homepage’ field is to point to the WWW home page *of the
software work*, specifically. Is there such a page for this work?

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Re: Referring to product's web site in description?

2009-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ben Finney 

| I think that's a job, not for the Debian package information, but for
| the project's home page. The package description should give enough
| information for the reader to understand whether they want the package
| on their system.

Noted.  (As I'm divided on whether to add the information or not, I'm so
far not arguing much in either direction.)

| The job of the ‘Homepage’ field is to point to the WWW home page *of the
| software work*, specifically. Is there such a page for this work?

There's http://code.google.com/p/yubikey-personalization/, which I guess
could/should have a link to the yubikey page.  (It doesn't today.)

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Re: Referring to product's web site in description?

2009-08-08 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Tollef Fog Heen dijo [Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 08:37:38AM +0200]:
 I'm packaging yubikey-personalization, a tool used to set the crypto
 keys for Yubikeys, which are OTP hardware tokens.  The tool is useless
 without a token, so I'm wondering if I should put a reference into the
 description for where people can read more about the tokens and possibly
 purchase one.  http://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey/ is the link I'd
 put in.
 
 Does people think that would be too much?  I'm divided on the issue --
 on one hand, I don't want Debian to end up plastered with ads, on the
 other hand, the tool is not useful without a token, so pointing people
 to where they can get one sounds reasonable.
 
 Ideas, suggestions, thoughts?

Umh, pointing debian/control's Homepage: field to the Yubikeys
homepage and stating in the description that
/usr/share/doc/yubikeys/README.Debian has further information, and
including the full information there, would be adequate and less
in-your-face IMO.

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