Re: systemd: systemctl does not re-create display-manager.service symlink

2020-02-02 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 03:21 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> They should also add a
> 
> [Install]
> Alias=display-manager.service
> 
> section
> 
> to their service file. Which will make sure that if you run
> "systemctl enable foo.service", display-manager.service will point at
> the desired display manager.

Hi Michael, I tried that, but it seems that it has the side effect of making
lightdm restart when upgrading, which is not really a good idea when you're
actually in a X session.

Any idea how to prevent that?

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Bug#898634: kmail: efail attack against S/MIME

2018-05-16 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 13:04 +0200, Sandro Knauß wrote:
> > There's a misunderstanding. My point isn't about PGP/MIME (which is indeed
> > handled by gnupg, even if through gpgme), but about S/MIME, which I really
> > don't think it handled by anything related to gnupg.
> 
> It is - the binary and package is called gpgsm and is part of gnupg souce 
> tarball. GPGME itself can handle PGP/MIME and S/MIME (if gpgsm is installed) 
> content transparently. You only tell GPGME what to use.

Oh ok, I didn't know about that, thanks. Sorry for the confusion then.

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Bug#898634: kmail: efail attack against S/MIME

2018-05-16 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 12:33 +0200, Sandro Knauß wrote:
> > Thanks, that's good to know.
> 
> Should I prepare a update with those patches for stable?

Yes I think it'd be worth it.
> 
> > > For a more detailed look for KMail and EFail see the dot.kde article:
> > > 
> > > https://dot.kde.org/2018/05/15/efail-and-kmail
> > 
> > That article indicates KMail uses GnuPG for S/MIME, which I find a bit
> > weird. 
> Okay it is simplyfied a lot - but in the end... GPGME itself using gpg-agent 
> etc. to request the work, so in the end it is the normal GnuPG pipeline, that 
> is doing the work, without parsing comandline output :) But for more detailed 
> look I wrote a blog post about the whole crypto stack some while ago:
> https://exote.ch/blogs/sandro/kontact-and-gnupg-under-windows/

There's a misunderstanding. My point isn't about PGP/MIME (which is indeed
handled by gnupg, even if through gpgme), but about S/MIME, which I really
don't think it handled by anything related to gnupg.

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Bug#898634: kmail: efail attack against S/MIME

2018-05-16 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 11:44 +0200, Sandro Knauß wrote:
> Hey,

Hi Sandro, thanks for the update on this.
> 
> For S/MIME the situation is that it is a conceptional weakness in the 
> standard 
> to remove the target vector completely.

Agreed, and I'm unsure what we can do about it in Debian right now, besides
mitigation for backchannels.
> 
> In KMail we have the best handling that we can get at the moment (with 
> default 
> settings). KMail never access resources from the internet without asking the 
> user or an explicit change of the default setting:
> Settings > Configure KMail > Security > Reading > Allow messages to load 
> external references from the Internet

Ok. Other clients like Evolution and Trojita also had an issue with DNS
prefetching which could be re-enabled in Webkit. Not sure on what library
KMail relies for HTML rending but it might be worth checking that too?

See https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182924 for the webkit bug (with
links to the Evolution and Trojita ones).
> 
> There are some small patches, that disable this setting for encrypted 
> messages, to enforce a user interaction:
> 
> https://phabricator.kde.org/D12391
> https://phabricator.kde.org/D12393
> https://phabricator.kde.org/D12394
> 
> For me applying the patches makes sense to improve security for users, but 
> disabling the external resource loading completely would break workflows. 
> Those patches are applied for the following Debian packages, where the
> setting 
> is used for everything:
> libmessageviewer5  << 4:18.04.1
> kmail < 4:18.04.1

Thanks, that's good to know.
> 
> As already mentioned, the underlying problem is the S/MIME conceptional 
> weaknes, that can't be fixed by those patches.
> 
> The stack KMail is using for decryption is GPGME Qt backend that is
> packaged 
> in gpgme1.0 for testing/sid and gpgmepp for stable and older.
> 
> I'm not sure, how this should be handled in Debian correctly.

I'm not sure either, to be honest.
> 
> For a more detailed look for KMail and EFail see the dot.kde article:
> 
> https://dot.kde.org/2018/05/15/efail-and-kmail

That article indicates KMail uses GnuPG for S/MIME, which I find a bit weird.
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Bug#898634: kmail: efail attack against S/MIME

2018-05-14 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Source: kmail
Severity: grave
Tags: security
Justification: user security hole

Hi,

as you may already know, a paper was published this morning describing a
vulnerability known as efail against S/MIME and PGP/MIME implementations
in various mail clients.

This vulnerability allows an attacker with read/write access to
encrypted mail to retrieve the plaintext provided HTML mails are
enabled, as well as loading of remote content.

The paper indicates that the PGP/MIME implementation in kmail is not
vulnerable, but the S/MIME is.

It might be possible that the vulnerability is in an underlying library,
so feel free to reassign if needed.

It's likely we'll have to issue a DSA for this.

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Re: Pushing 9.0.0 to unstable

2016-12-06 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2016-12-06 at 00:03 +0100, Aurélien COUDERC wrote:
> what about pushing 9.0.0 to unstable ?
> There was one grave but trivial bug I introduced in 9.0.0~exp1 (#843727)
> that was fixed the same day it was raised and is now pending upload, and
> miscellaneous other fixes and improvements.
> Also I’ve worked with Maximiliano to get Debian themed SDDM packages ready.
> They depend on desktop-base >= 9.0.0~ so the upload would be welcome to let
> these new packages land.

The upload can also target experimental.
> 
> The last major part missing for Stretch I’m still working on is the Plymouth
> theme, but il will take more days to be ready.

I *personally* would have preferred to have the plymouth theme included before
pushing to unstable, but I have no strong feeling on it, so if other people
here want it in unstable now rather than later I can do the upload.

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Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#766462: with plymouth installed, I don't get any gettys on my VCs

2015-03-10 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2015-03-10 at 10:02 +, Simon McVittie wrote:
  slim and lightdm do have native systemd .service files, but don't have
  those relationships, which I think is probably a bug in those DMs'
  service files
 
 If they do not interact with plymouth themselves like gdm does, then it
 is correct to not have this relationship.

Actually lightdm tries to interact with plymouth
(http://sources.debian.net/src/lightdm/1.10.3-3/src/plymouth.c/)
 
 lightdm does not appear to have this bug, so I will drop it from Cc in
 future responses: when I installed both gdm3 and lightdm, everything
 seemed to work fine.

Ok, fine for me :)

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Re: Bug#766462: with plymouth installed, I don't get any gettys on my VCs

2015-03-03 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2015-03-03 at 09:59 +, Simon McVittie wrote:
 * have systemd as init
 * install plymouth, gdm3 and your favourite non-GDM DM implementation
   (kdm in the original bug report)

Ok, I'm missing gdm3 here, so I'll try to install it and report back on
the situation.

 * select the non-GDM DM implementation as the active DM
 * enable plymouth by putting splash on the kernel command-line

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Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#766462: with plymouth installed, I don't get any gettys on my VCs

2015-03-03 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2015-03-03 at 03:59 +, Mike Gabriel wrote:
 I am quite positive that some missing gettys because of two DMs being  
 installed in parallel (or some similar normal thing that people might  
 do) will definitely be worth a freeze exception.
 
 IMHO, if gettys don't come up properly, the system is rather broken  
 and this is a no-go for jessie.

Sure, but I had the impression that this wasn't the case for lightdm
(and slim), according to Simon initial email. And I can confirm
plymouth+lightdm seems to work just fine with init=systemd here.

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Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#766462: with plymouth installed, I don't get any gettys on my VCs

2015-03-02 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim., 2015-03-01 at 21:58 +, Simon McVittie wrote:
 slim and lightdm do have native systemd .service files, but don't have
 those relationships, which I think is probably a bug in those DMs'
 service files; they should probably gain those lines too. However,
 because they participate in managing the display-manager.service
 symlink, they suppress gdm.service altogether, so they might avoid
 get this problem with the plymouth handover.

So what's your advice here for lightdm? Maybe it's worth adding it, but
it doesn't warrant a freeze exception?

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Re: Bug#748971: same problem with media/open file

2014-12-09 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2014-12-09 at 14:05 +0100, Sebastian Ramacher wrote:
 This looks to me like that's a bug in murrine-themes or QtGTKStyle and
 not in vlc. So I'm reassigning this bug to the respective package.

Pixmap is a pretty low-level GTK+ engine. I'm unsure about how
QtGTKStyle works, but might it be possible that qt just doesn't handle
that really well?

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Re: ***SPAM*** [Pkg-xfce-devel] systemd/logind integration of desktop environments

2014-09-06 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven., 2014-09-05 at 16:46 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 As part of the process described on this wiki page --
 https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Requalification/Jessie
 We're requesting some information from each desktop team, as well
 as the systemd maintainers:

Hi,

what kind of reply do you expect? Direct reply, group reply, or direct
edit of the wiki page?

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Bug#754314: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#754314: systemd support for kdm

2014-08-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2014-08-12 at 10:43 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 This issue was discussed during the systemd/GNOME sprint this spring.
 I.e. how the display-manager.service symlink is supposed to be managed
 when multiple display managers are installed.
 
 lightdm and gdm3 are already updated to support this scheme, so I'm
 bringing
 their maintainers into the loop here.
 Please coordinate with them when adding systemd support to kdm.
 
What kind of coordination is needed from us?
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Bug#745556: kmail accepts invalid SMTP TLS certificate against user action

2014-04-24 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:14:50AM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
 I do not know why it seems to loop. I set a refresh delay of 5 minutes, but
 the dialog comes back within less than a second, again and again...

In case I wasn't clear, I was wondering if it wasn't just all imaps
folders beeing refreshed one after another.
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Bug#745556: kmail accepts invalid SMTP TLS certificate against user action

2014-04-23 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:33:28PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
 The cancel button has no effects other than to bring the same dialog
 almost instantly back in an infinite loop. 

Are you sure the loop is infinite and kmail is not just checking folder
after folder? (not that it wouldn't be a bad idea to cache the decision
for the user/host/port triplet).

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Re: Bug#707851: Soften the the wording recommending menu files: let's do it in Jessie.

2014-01-05 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 03:00:05PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:

Hi Charles,

 + sect1 id=debian-menu
 +   headingThe Debian menu system/heading
 +
 +   p
 + The Debian menu unifies the menu systems of window managers.  In
 + some desktop environments such as emGNOME/em and emKDE/em,
 + it has been superseded by the FreeDesktop menu and is hidden by
 + default.
 +   /p

You can add Xfce to the list.

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Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] upcoming changes in UPower 1.0

2013-10-18 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Fri, 2013-10-18 at 17:10 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Dear maintainers,
 
 there are some upcoming changes in upower 1.0, most notably the removal
 of the suspend/hibernate backend based on pm-utils. Which means you'll
 need a running systemd for suspend/hibernate and logind for the session
 tracking which the decision policy is based on.

So, if I understand that well, that means without init=systemd, no more
suspend/hibernate from upower? Are we (Debian) comfortable with that?

I didn't really follow last changes in init systems, so I'm not sure how
easy it is to insall/use systemd on Debian these days, but it seems that
forcing every desktop user to use systemd might not really well
perceived.
 
 Please have a look at [1] and notify your upstreams (unless they aren't
 already aware of it). If you want to engange in a discussion with upower
 upstream, now would be the best time.
 And please don't shoot the messenger.

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Bug#694011: desktop-base: problem after updating from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-11-25 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim., 2012-11-25 at 13:23 +0100, Eshat Cakar wrote:
 Hi Boris,
 hi Yves-Alexis,
 
 Am Fri, 23 Nov 2012 10:06:50 +0100
 schrieb Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org:
  To me there's two issues/fixes:
  
  1) make KDM correctly handle the case where the selected theme is gone
 
 That should already be covered. We have a palceholder, namely
 Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@
 in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc (Boris could you check that?) which is
 substituted by kdm's init.d script. The setting is replaced with
 values from /etc/default/kdm.d/10_desktop-base.

So it might have failed in this case. I've added Boris to CC so he
actually has a chance to check.

 So you always should end up with the theme currently installed, since
 the setting and kdm theme come from the same package (desktop-base).
 I admit that the whole process is a bit messy and I probably miss
 something, since this all was set before I was involved.
 
Can you at least try to reproduce the issue?

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Re: Status update for debian-desktop

2010-11-21 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On sam., 2010-11-20 at 13:20 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
 On jeu., 2010-11-18 at 16:42 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
  On mar., 2010-11-16 at 13:52 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
   Following the theme selection, I updated the desktop-base package. The
   package appeared in unstable yesterday and will migrate to testing
   following some testing and release team approval.
   
  Seems that the KDE artwork is completely missing. I've tried to update
  the desktop-base package in svn but preliminary tests seem to indicate
  that it still doesn't work.
  
  Could a KDE maintainer take a look at the package in svn and report back
  about what's missing (or even better, take care of the KDE part
  completely, since I have no knowledge of KDE at all)?
 
 Ping? Is there anyone with KDE knowledge which could take a look?

Thanks to Pino Toscano on #debian-kde channel, I've just uploaded a new
desktop-base with the relevant changes to KDE4. Please test it and
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Re: Status update for debian-desktop

2010-11-20 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu., 2010-11-18 at 16:42 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
 On mar., 2010-11-16 at 13:52 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
  Following the theme selection, I updated the desktop-base package. The
  package appeared in unstable yesterday and will migrate to testing
  following some testing and release team approval.
  
 Seems that the KDE artwork is completely missing. I've tried to update
 the desktop-base package in svn but preliminary tests seem to indicate
 that it still doesn't work.
 
 Could a KDE maintainer take a look at the package in svn and report back
 about what's missing (or even better, take care of the KDE part
 completely, since I have no knowledge of KDE at all)?

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Re: Status update for debian-desktop

2010-11-18 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2010-11-16 at 13:52 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
 Following the theme selection, I updated the desktop-base package. The
 package appeared in unstable yesterday and will migrate to testing
 following some testing and release team approval.
 
Seems that the KDE artwork is completely missing. I've tried to update
the desktop-base package in svn but preliminary tests seem to indicate
that it still doesn't work.

Could a KDE maintainer take a look at the package in svn and report back
about what's missing (or even better, take care of the KDE part
completely, since I have no knowledge of KDE at all)?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Tweaking SpaceFun

2010-11-13 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu., 2010-11-11 at 20:14 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
 gdm3 theme is present, but there's no gdm theme. For Etch and Lenny the
 theme was in gdm (and slim) packages, should we move it to the
 desktop-base package? (cc:ing the various login managers maintainers to
 get their opinion).
 Cheers, 

I submitted themes for slim (#603256) and gdm (#603403), waiting for
their maintainer to act (or will propose an NMU). I'm not too sure about
kdm and gdm3. It'd be best to provide the themes in desktop-base, maybe
using alternatives, but I don't have a strong opinion either.

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Tweaking SpaceFun

2010-11-11 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2010-11-09 at 17:54 -0300, Valessio Brito wrote:
 I would greatly appreciate help from all the other artists to adjust
 or improve the details in the proposal. As well as create other parts
 of spreading (marketing, banners, posters, brochures, flyers, etc.)..
 
 Who does not have access to SVN[1], just ask me via email.
 
 
 [1] http://svn.debianart.org
 
 Thanks to all who are participating, we will also work in 'pure
 blends' and other parts of debian that need help with graphics.
 

I just noticed you committed some widescreen versions of the wallpaper
in png. Would you have the svg source in widescreen, so we can add it as
alternative too?

gdm3 theme is present, but there's no gdm theme. For Etch and Lenny the
theme was in gdm (and slim) packages, should we move it to the
desktop-base package? (cc:ing the various login managers maintainers to
get their opinion).
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Bug#547623: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#547623: thunar: MS Office .doc treated as plain text document which

2010-04-22 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu., 2010-04-22 at 18:37 -0400, John Lindgren wrote:
 As I noted in [1], this bug applies not only to .doc files being
 double-listed as Word document and plain text but also to .ogg files
 being double-listed as Vorbis audio and Theora video.  So, if this is
 not going to be fixed in Thunar, then it applies to shared-mime-info as
 well as kdelibs5-data.  Attached to [1] I have given patches for both
 kdelibs5-data and shared-mime-info.
 
 [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=547623#102 

Hmhm, I'm a bit confused. I still think declaring *.doc as text/plain is
not a good idea, but obviously *.ogg could very well be either audio or
video. Imho kde.xml should be fixed (but I might miss something there),
though freedesktop.xml is fine.

In any case, Thunar still needs some fixing. I'm waiting for KDE people
comments before cloning and reassigning a resulting to Thunar. Still
waiting for upstream comment on the upstream bug, though.

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Bug#517690: kde-icons-oxygen: unexistant directories registered in index.theme

2009-03-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Package: kde-icons-oxygen
Version: 4:4.1.0-2
Severity: normal

Hey,

kde-icons-oxygen is really nice, but it has a small annoying bug.
index.theme references two non-existent directories,
scalable/animations/small/22x22 and scalable/animations/small/16x16.

That means everytime I run an application (at least a gtk one), it outputs:

(xfmpc:22646): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory
scalable/animations/small/16x16 of theme oxygen has no size field


(xfmpc:22646): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory
scalable/animations/small/22x22 of theme oxygen has no size field

Attached patch should fix the problem.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 
'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.29-rc6-00121-g64e7130 (SMP w/2 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

kde-icons-oxygen depends on no packages.

kde-icons-oxygen recommends no packages.

Versions of packages kde-icons-oxygen suggests:
pn  kdebase   none (no description available)

-- no debconf information
--- /usr/share/icons/oxygen/index.theme 2008-07-15 21:49:13.0 +0200
+++ index.theme 2009-03-01 15:14:42.0 +0100
@@ -92,7 +92,7 @@
 PanelDefault=32
 PanelSizes=16,22,32,48,64,128
 
-Directories=8x8/emblems,16x16/actions,16x16/animations,16x16/apps,16x16/categories,16x16/devices,16x16/emblems,16x16/emotes,16x16/intl,16x16/mimetypes,16x16/places,16x16/status,22x22/actions,22x22/animations,22x22/apps,22x22/categories,22x22/devices,22x22/emblems,22x22/emotes,22x22/intl,22x22/mimetypes,22x22/places,22x22/status,32x32/actions,32x32/animations,32x32/apps,32x32/categories,32x32/devices,32x32/emblems,32x32/emotes,32x32/intl,32x32/mimetypes,32x32/places,32x32/status,48x48/actions,48x48/animations,48x48/apps,48x48/categories,48x48/devices,48x48/emblems,48x48/emotes,48x48/intl,48x48/mimetypes,48x48/places,48x48/status,64x64/animations,64x64/apps,64x64/categories,64x64/devices,64x64/emblems,64x64/emotes,64x64/intl,64x64/mimetypes,64x64/places,64x64/status,128x128/animations,128x128/apps,128x128/categories,128x128/devices,128x128/emblems,128x128/emotes,128x128/intl,128x128/mimetypes,128x128/places,128x128/status,scalable/actions,scalable/actions/small/16x16,scalable/
 
actions/small/22x22,scalable/actions/small/48x48,scalable/animations,scalable/animations/small/16x16,scalable/animations/small/22x22,scalable/apps,scalable/apps/small/16x16,scalable/apps/small/22x22,scalable/apps/small/32x32,scalable/categories,scalable/categories/small/16x16,scalable/categories/small/22x22,scalable/devices,scalable/devices/small/16x16,scalable/devices/small/22x22,scalable/devices/small/32x32,scalable/emblems,scalable/emblems/small/16x16,scalable/emblems/small/22x22,scalable/emotes,scalable/emotes/small/16x16,scalable/emotes/small/22x22,scalable/intl,scalable/intl/small/16x16,scalable/intl/small/22x22,scalable/mimetypes,scalable/mimetypes/small/16x16,scalable/mimetypes/small/22x22,scalable/mimetypes/small/32x32,scalable/places,scalable/places/small/16x16,scalable/places/small/22x22,scalable/status,scalable/status/small/16x16,scalable/status/small/22x22
+Directories=8x8/emblems,16x16/actions,16x16/animations,16x16/apps,16x16/categories,16x16/devices,16x16/emblems,16x16/emotes,16x16/intl,16x16/mimetypes,16x16/places,16x16/status,22x22/actions,22x22/animations,22x22/apps,22x22/categories,22x22/devices,22x22/emblems,22x22/emotes,22x22/intl,22x22/mimetypes,22x22/places,22x22/status,32x32/actions,32x32/animations,32x32/apps,32x32/categories,32x32/devices,32x32/emblems,32x32/emotes,32x32/intl,32x32/mimetypes,32x32/places,32x32/status,48x48/actions,48x48/animations,48x48/apps,48x48/categories,48x48/devices,48x48/emblems,48x48/emotes,48x48/intl,48x48/mimetypes,48x48/places,48x48/status,64x64/animations,64x64/apps,64x64/categories,64x64/devices,64x64/emblems,64x64/emotes,64x64/intl,64x64/mimetypes,64x64/places,64x64/status,128x128/animations,128x128/apps,128x128/categories,128x128/devices,128x128/emblems,128x128/emotes,128x128/intl,128x128/mimetypes,128x128/places,128x128/status,scalable/actions,scalable/actions/small/16x16,scalable/
 

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Debian sid and etch artwork.

2006-08-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 12:19 -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
 [ Unfortunately the cross-posting is necessary, but hopefully after a
 online meeting we will have a separated mailing list ]
 
 I would like to discuss with you the Debian sid and etch artwork
 infrastructure and after that the artwork itself. The plan is organize
 a online meeting, but we can kick off it here and define our agenda.

Yeah, I guess we should setup some alioth project + mailing list, and
maybe an irc channel (#debian-desktop ?)
 
 The current status (fixes are welcome):
 - kdm theme and kde splash and wallpaper are maintained only by
 pkg-kde team and in their svn repository;
 - gdm theme is maintained in gdm by Ryan Murray, gdm splash is in
 gnome-session and wallpaper in desktop-base (splash is in desktop-base
 too but unused atm);
 - xfce splash and wallpaper are maintained only by pkg-xfce team and
 in their svn repository;

yes, we have a xfce4-artwork package with some wallpaper.
 
 What i think would be good (suggestions, please):
 - Move desktop-base to a neutral svn repository (eg: debian-desktop
 group in alioth);

agreed

 - Give commit access to at least two members of pkg-kde, pkg-gnome and
 pkg-xfce and rmurray in that neutral repository;

agreed

 - Ask artists to work on a common wallpaper for Sid and Etch and three
 different splash images and add these images in desktop-base;

I don't really know if we should have one common wallpaper for all
environnments. If we had a common template with (for example) the logo
of each environmment, wouldn't it be better ? 

 - Ask artists to work on gdm and kdm themes based on the common wallpapers;

agreed

 - Prepare desktop-base to build the kdm and gdm themes;
 - Prepare desktop-base to let us change from Sid-Etch themes and
 wallpapers with a simple change and single upload (alternatives?);
 - Upload the new desktop-base;
 - Change gdm, kdm, kde and xfce to point to the new images in
 desktop-base and desktop-base built binaries;

agreed

 
 Related wiki article: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopArtwork
 
 I think in a online meeting we can discuss the details, who will do
 what and define some more stuff like icon themes and all that.
 Thoughts?

Yeah, I guess we should find some time to discuss this, but I don't
really know who is online at the moment and when do we have free-time.
There are currently 3 greatly implicated members in pkg-xfce (Emanuele
Rocca, Simon Huggins and me, with some other members which may be happy
to participate). For the schedule, we are all three of us from Europe
(but ema is in holidays :) )

Sorry for the noise.

Regards,
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