Holding off xfce4 uploads until current packages migrate to testing

2006-08-05 Thread Adeodato Simó
(I was this   close to sending this mail yesterday, but unfortunately I
didn't, so it'll take a bit longer than expected.)

Hi guys!

I just wanted to drop a note to say that, in case you hadn't looked at
bjorn.haxx.se/debian much, the libxfce4util transition is almost ready
to enter testing.

I'm tracking it here:
  
  http://ftp-master.debian.org/~adeodato/migration/libxfce4util.html

This is one of those transitions where a soname bump forces to all
rdepending packages to enter testing at the same time. Since this is
sometimes hard to achieve, and real danger exists that the transition
couples itself with others, making it hell, it's really in everybody's
benefit to get this kind of transitions done ASAP.

If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you to hold off if possible any
uploads
any of the packages in the linked page until they have made into
testing, since each upload resets the day-counter. If in doubt, please
contact me or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just spotted the exo 0.3.1.8beta2-2 upload, and regretted not having
sent this mail sooner. As said above, it'll take now a few more days.
(But please do not worry about having uploaded that package. We are well
aware we fail to efficiently communicate maintainers when it's a bad
time for certain uploads of their packages, and I have in my TODO list
to integrate such informations in the PTS.)

Many thanks for your cooperation and your work!

-- 
Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es
Debian Developer  adeodato at debian.org
 
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Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:

 I see that the lawyers of SuSE and Red Hat do not believe this to be
 true or at least do not consider it a problem, and this is enough for
 me to ignore the opinion of the debian-legal@ armchair lawyers.

We already know that the lawyers of SuSE and Red Hat often take a more
lenient view than Debian (see the old KDE controversy for an
example).  I believe that this can be explained by the simple
observation that they are content as long as they don't get sued,
whereas we do our best to follow the licenses whether there is a
likelihood of getting sued or not.

Thomas


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Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I became a developer long before the NM process was created, and I
 agreed to follow the unclarified social contract.

Are you unwilling to follow the current Social Contract?  If so, you
should resign, and yesterday.

Thomas


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