Re: Bug#419111: context: Fails to install: ctxfmtutil: line 12: kpsewhich: command not found

2007-04-14 Thread Frank Küster
Dear release people,

I think you know best how to contact buildd admins.

Reversing the order of what
Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=dfsbuildver=1.0.0arch=amd64stamp=1176485127file=log

This one was probably attempted after the first one?  No wonder.  It's
just that removal of texlive-nearlyeverything failed, and now dpkg
thinks the files are still present, while they aren't.

Now that the debhelper change has been reverted, we can't rebuild
texlive with fixed tex-common.  We need to upload a reverted tex-common,
and then rebuild texlive.  Until this has happened, buildds should be
prevented to install texlive if that is possible, and the buildds need
to be fixed.  I think they will even fix themselves as soon as they once
installed and then purged a working version.

Thanks.

The following is only interesting to the bug in Cc:

 It happened after I got those 2 buildd log:
 http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=frown;ver=0.6.1-6;arch=amd64;stamp=1176485011

This one doesn't show any bug except the removal ones, which are due to
the debhelper change.

And it shows a strange thing, namely that context is installed at all -
I think we've got some dependencies wrong, but I don't see it.

Hm, or it's a problem with the buildd log:  the commandline in the buildd log
installs only texlive packages, but actualy tetex-bin is installed,
too.  And that pulls in context.

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Re: Bug#419111: context: Fails to install: ctxfmtutil: line 12: kpsewhich: command not found

2007-04-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 08:56:28AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
 Dear release people,
 
 I think you know best how to contact buildd admins.
 
 Reversing the order of what
 Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=dfsbuildver=1.0.0arch=amd64stamp=1176485127file=log
 
 This one was probably attempted after the first one?  No wonder.  It's
 just that removal of texlive-nearlyeverything failed, and now dpkg
 thinks the files are still present, while they aren't.

Yes, the 2 logs were after each other.

 Now that the debhelper change has been reverted, we can't rebuild
 texlive with fixed tex-common.  We need to upload a reverted tex-common,
 and then rebuild texlive.  Until this has happened, buildds should be
 prevented to install texlive if that is possible, and the buildds need
 to be fixed.  I think they will even fix themselves as soon as they once
 installed and then purged a working version.

What happens if we do install texlive other then it breaks on removal?


Kurt


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fix for 418284 for etch

2007-04-14 Thread Eddy Petrișor
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Hello,

I have prepared a fix for the bug 418284 for etch. I think this fix
should be included since:
- - initial installations over pppoe might hit this bug
- - the fix is non-intusive and that trivial that would be a shame not
to have it

I have prepared a package for stable which is available at:
http://users.alioth.debian.org/~eddyp-guest/darcs/ppp-etch/



The diff relatively to the stable version is (broke by wrapping):

diff -ruN ../official/ppp-2.4.4rel/debian/changelog
ppp-2.4.4rel/debian/changelog
- --- ../official/ppp-2.4.4rel/debian/changelog   2007-04-10
11:03:01.0 +0300
+++ ppp-2.4.4rel/debian/changelog   2007-04-14
14:06:59.0 +0300
@@ -1,3 +1,10 @@
+ppp (2.4.4rel-8etch1) stable; urgency=low
+
+  * ppp-udeb: quote username and password in pap/chap secrets since
they
+might contain special characters (Closes: 418284)
+
+ -- Eddy Petrișor [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sat, 14 Apr 2007
14:05:44 +0300
+
 ppp (2.4.4rel-8) unstable; urgency=high

   * urgency high since fixes an RC bug
diff -ruN ../official/ppp-2.4.4rel/debian/ppp-udeb.postinst
ppp-2.4.4rel/debian/ppp-udeb.postinst
- --- ../official/ppp-2.4.4rel/debian/ppp-udeb.postinst   2007-04-10
11:03:01.0 +0300
+++ ppp-2.4.4rel/debian/ppp-udeb.postinst   2007-04-14
14:03:41.0 +0300
@@ -273,7 +273,7 @@
 chmod 600 /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
 cat EOF  /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
 #GENERATED-BY-DEBIAN-INSTALLER#
- -$USERNAME  *   $PASSWORD
+$USERNAME*   $PASSWORD
 EOF
 cp /etc/ppp/pap-secrets /etc/ppp/chap-secrets




The package built fine on my machine and the same fix was tested on
an unstable machine (while the stable and unstable versions started
to diverge now with this fix).

Here is the debdiff output relative to the newly uploaded version in
unstable.



debdiff ppp_2.4.4rel-8etch1_amd64.changes
../ppp-eddyp-dev/ppp_2.4.4rel-9_amd64.changes
File lists identical (after any substitutions)

Control files of package ppp: lines which differ (wdiff format)
- ---
Version: [-2.4.4rel-8etch1-] {+2.4.4rel-9+}

Control files of package ppp-dev: lines which differ (wdiff format)
- ---
Version: [-2.4.4rel-8etch1-] {+2.4.4rel-9+}

Control files of package ppp-udeb: lines which differ (wdiff format)
- 
Version: [-2.4.4rel-8etch1-] {+2.4.4rel-9+}
Installer-Menu-Item: [-17-] {+1700+}


The 17 - 1700 change is unstable specific.



One question, is stable ok as a distribution in this case?


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Re: Hints for packages with udebs

2007-04-14 Thread Luk Claes
Frans Pop wrote:
 On Friday 13 April 2007 14:18, Frans Pop wrote:
 I could not check if those packages may be blocked from migrating for
 other reasons because p.qa.d.o is currently unreachable.
 
 Correction: it was a problem on my side; AFAICT all packages should be OK 
 to migrate.

All unblocked.

Cheers

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Re: Upstream version freeze for Debian

2007-04-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 09:06:17AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
  Basically it looks ok. What about the freeze period for the toolchain? I
  think we usually suffer for a too early freeze of the glibc (it has been
  frozen in July for Etch, even if it has been unblocked a lot of time
  after). In my opinion, it would be better to freeze the upstream version
  at that time and allow minor update until the main freeze.

 Agreed.

 Ubuntu uses this technic and it's called UVF for Upstream Version Freeze.

 Most regressions come from new upstream version and only a small
 percentage come from maintainer changes.

I don't think the percentage is that small; packages with responsible
upstreams who make careful stable releases seem to be compensated for by
maintainers who happily introduce regressions of their own. ;)

We avoided having an upstream version freeze for etch simply because the
correlation between upstream version numbers and changes that didn't comply
with the freeze guidelines was a weak one.  I think it's fine to have this
as a heuristic, but the version numbers really were not the major concern.

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Re: Why was etch released as stable if it still has bugs?

2007-04-14 Thread Steve Langasek
[debian-release is not a discussion list; cc:ing to debian-project, please
respect M-F-T (if mutt doesn't eat my setting again).]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 05:22:46AM -0700, Seth Lang wrote:
 By definition I thought release-critical to mean that
 it was critical for these bugs to be fixed before the
 release can happen. If they are not release-critical
 why label them as such. I thought that it was part of
 debian's high standards (which make debian the distro
 of choice for many) to not release a stable distro if
 it had bugs that are considered as serious or grave.

 Or what is the REAL definition of release-critical? If
 the bugs are not critical for a stable distro to be
 released why label them as such (defeats the purpose).

By default, any bug of severity: serious or higher is treated as
release-critical.  In various cases, exceptions are made.

For the bugs of severity: serious or higher that were still present in etch
at the time of release, a deliberate decision was made to release with those
bugs because we were confident that etch was already of higher quality than
sarge -- many of the RC bugs that were fixed for etch were actually present
in sarge but never documented as such, and while it would be nice to have
zero known security bugs at the time of a release, the supply of security
bugs is being constantly replenished, so it doesn't make any sense to hold
out for a perfect score.

For the remaining non-security 5 RC bugs in etch at the time of release,
holding out for bugfixes before etch r0 would have meant delaying the
release for at least two weeks for the simplest of these, in a best-case
scenario assuming everyone was available to finish the release at that
point; and these bugs were variously unreproducible, of debatable severity,
not regressions from sarge, or the appropriate fix is in doubt, such that
fixing all 5 would more than likely require a full month or more before we
would be ready to try for a release again.  When all of these bugs are
candidates for fixing in etch r1, it doesn't make sense to further delay the
release when doing so means stable users would continue to use sarge, which
we were confident we had already surpassed in quality.

 I'm only pointing out that it doesn't help with user
 confidence when a distro releases under the name
 stable when it admits to still having several
 release-critical bugs at the time.

release-critical is, by definition, something that blocks the release. 
Since these bugs did not block the release, they were not release-critical;
so what you're seeing is misleading statistics.

 But as you can see from:
 http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities for a
 bug to be release critical means that the package is
 either critical, grave, or serious. Furthermore, the
 same document also states that a package maintainer
 can tag the package as etch-ignore

Er, no, it doesn't say this, nor should it.

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Re: X.org plans for the lenny cycle

2007-04-14 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:06:19AM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote:
 Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt enquired:
  The release team is currently working on a schedule for the lenny
  release cycle. For that, we want to gather some data from the bigger
  software packaging teams in Debian first.
  
  We would like to know which major upstream versions of X.org are
  expected to be released in the next 24 months and how much time you
  expect them to need to get stable enough for a Debian stable release.
  
  Our current, very rough plans would mean a release in 18 months, which
  would be in October 2008. We expect to shuffle this a bit around to fit
  everyone's needs, so please tell us if this date works for you.
 
 As I see it, there are three major developments going on in X.org at
 the moment.
 
 1) active probing of video cards to allow a more dynamic setting and
 resetting of video modes used.  This work is mostly complete already
 (available in experimental xserver-xorg-video-intel, soon to appear in
 unstable).

To expand on Drew's excellent summary further, there is support in a
development branch for the -ati driver for this as well, but it's not ready
yet. I expect it to be ready in time for lenny. Nouveau, the replacement
for -nv, which is in development will also have support for this, which
covers all the major chipsets in use today. I wouldn't be surprised if we
see several other drivers that are being actively maintained use this. As
it is, this goal is flexible, and we'll ship the best support that's
available when lenny is ready. For any chips that aren't ready, they can
use the current architecture we already have in place.

 2) Support for input-hotplug. As with the dynamic modesetting in 1),
 this allows for dynamic plugging in of X-related devices. Currently
 being developed on the master X.org branch, should be ready in X11R7.3
 by June or July.

It's not clear what's goin on with this. The implementation requires a
daemon which talks to HAL via dbus and lets the X server know when a device
changes. Currently, there's a prototype implementation in C written by
Daniel Stone, which isn't really meant for production use. There's also an
implementation in Python written by a Gentoo developer which is probably
also not ready. Once we get 7.2 in to unstable, we'll have to make a more
serious run at this. Even if it's not ready to turn on by default though,
I plan to follow upstream and set the default mouse to /dev/input/mice,
which will solve most problems and simplify things for our users. So either
way, the release team shouldn't have to worry about things from this end.
Expect to see more from us on it in the coming few months though.

 3) More generally, making /etc/X11/xorg.conf completely redundant.  I
 believe this will not be achieved under 2), but is a longer term goal.

I'm actively working on this with upstream, albeit slowly. The
infrastructure is in place to run without a xorg.conf completely, but it
doesn't work properly when you have to change something. I'm in the process
of making this work so that we can ship without a xorg.conf, or with a
minimal one that only changes what the user needs. The exact shape of this
by the end of the lenny cycle isn't really possible to predict (and it
depends on the improved resolution stuff in item 1) but we can at least
whittle away at this as the lenny cycle goes on so that we don't cause any
disruptions to the release while making the improvements.

 As you can see, X.org's broad aims at the moment are to improve
 usability by enabling the Xserver to be configured automatically
 without user intervention.  X.org is striving to keep to a relatively
 strict six month release cycle, I would imagine six months is
 sufficient time for us to stabilise X for the release of Lenny.  So
 with a goal of Oct 2008 we would expect to include X11R7.4, which
 should have been released around Feb or Mar 2008.  This would include
 the new input-hotplug features.

One thing the XSF needs to do is actively build the packaging
infrastructure for the input-hotplugging. I'm not sure exactly how long
this will take, but I don't imagine that it will be too difficult.

 A long-standing bug which should be thought about is the GL licensing
 problem [1].  SGI kindly contributed code for GL support in X, but their
 licence is not DSFG.  Upstream is not comfortable with the situation
 either and there have been intentions to approach colleagues at SGI to
 see about rationalising the licence, to the common X11 licence or
 otherwise.  However these correspondences proceed at a glacial
 corporate rate - not high on corporate SGI's TODO list, you might say. 
 We've conveniently been ignoring the problem for Debian stable, do we
 continue doing so, or are we capable of prodding SGI to accelerate the
 discussions?  Or do we ditch OpenGL support from Debian... ?

These are a real thorn in our sides. Another issue is the nvidia code
obfuscation bug, which we can fix when we get nouveau in 

Re: mutt/1.5.13-3 for etch r1?

2007-04-14 Thread Julien Danjou
At 1176460173 time_t, Christoph Berg wrote:
 I would like to upload the mutt version now in unstable (1.5.13-3) to
 etch. The only change [*] is a fix pulled from upstream that resolves
 a bug that prevents mutt from successfully re-logging into an imap
 connection that has timed out (e.g. while the user was editing a
 mail). The current version will just hang on attempting to reconnect,
 the fixed one still requires logging in again, but will succeed.
 
 Is that ok for a stable update? (If so, propagating the unstable
 version to p-u is ok.)

Even if I think it should be fine, unfortunately,
point release are about RC bugs.
Not sure annoying bug would be considered as RC.. :-/

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Request of binNMUs for the libpq4 - libpq5 transition

2007-04-14 Thread Luk Claes
Hi

Can someone please schedule binNMUs for the libpq4 to libpq5 transition once
libpq5 (postgresql-8.2) is built everywhere?

Cheers

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Re: fix for 418284 for etch

2007-04-14 Thread Julien Danjou
At 1176554433 time_t, Eddy Petrișor wrote:
 I have prepared a fix for the bug 418284 for etch. I think this fix
 should be included since:
 - initial installations over pppoe might hit this bug
 - the fix is non-intusive and that trivial that would be a shame not
 to have it

So small, ok from my point of view.

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Re: Request of binNMUs for the libpq4 - libpq5 transition

2007-04-14 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2007-04-14 Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can someone please schedule binNMUs for the libpq4 to libpq5 transition once
 libpq5 (postgresql-8.2) is built everywhere?

Hello,
wouldn't it be better to wait until libpq5 is in testing? Otherwise a
(newly found) rc-bug in libpq5's source would add more than a 100
packages out-of-sync in testing and sid.

cu and- OTOH I'd expect testing migration to completely stop for at
least a month, since the new glibc needs to be ready. ;-) -reas
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Re: Request of binNMUs for the libpq4 - libpq5 transition

2007-04-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 05:06:18PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
 On 2007-04-14 Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can someone please schedule binNMUs for the libpq4 to libpq5 transition once
  libpq5 (postgresql-8.2) is built everywhere?
 
 Hello,
 wouldn't it be better to wait until libpq5 is in testing? Otherwise a
 (newly found) rc-bug in libpq5's source would add more than a 100
 packages out-of-sync in testing and sid.

This could work in this case since libpq4 is from the postgresql-8.1
source package and libpq5 from the postgresql-8.2 source package.

This wouldn't work with if it was from the same source package.

But I'm not sure if we really need to wait.  I think postgresql-8.2
could be hinted into testing with an rc bug if it's really needed.


Kurt


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binNMUs request for ocamlnet

2007-04-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
With the upload of ocamlnet 2.2.7 to unstable all ocaml libraries
depending on it are now broken, I kindly ask the following binNMUs to
fix that:

  cduce_0.4.1-1, rebuild against newer ocamlnet, 1, alpha amd64 hppa i386 ia64 
m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc
  libhttp-ocaml-dev_0.1.3-2, rebuild against newer ocamlnet, 1, alpha amd64 
hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc
  libldap-ocaml-dev_2.1.8-2, rebuild against newer ocamlnet, 1, alpha amd64 
hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc
  libpxp-ocaml-dev_1.1.96-8, rebuild against newer ocamlnet, 1, alpha amd64 
hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc

I haven't checked if the packages have previously been binNMUed, so 1
as the NMU number in the list above is a guess of mine (I do have
checked source version and archs though).

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Re: binNMUs request for ocamlnet

2007-04-14 Thread Luk Claes
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
 With the upload of ocamlnet 2.2.7 to unstable all ocaml libraries
 depending on it are now broken, I kindly ask the following binNMUs to
 fix that:
 
   cduce_0.4.1-1, rebuild against newer ocamlnet, 1, alpha amd64 hppa i386 
 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc
   libhttp-ocaml-dev_0.1.3-2, rebuild against newer ocamlnet, 1, alpha amd64 
 hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc
   libldap-ocaml-dev_2.1.8-2, rebuild against newer ocamlnet, 1, alpha amd64 
 hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc
   libpxp-ocaml-dev_1.1.96-8, rebuild against newer ocamlnet, 1, alpha amd64 
 hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc
 
 I haven't checked if the packages have previously been binNMUed, so 1
 as the NMU number in the list above is a guess of mine (I do have
 checked source version and archs though).

The 1 was a good guess as none of the versions have been binNMUed before.

Cheers

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binNMU requests for libeb7 - libeb12 transition

2007-04-14 Thread Luk Claes
Hi

Can someone please schedule binNMUs for the following packages:

ndtpd_3.1.5-6.3, rebuild against libeb12, 1, alpha amd64 arm hppa hurd-i386
i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc
libeb-ruby_2.3-1, rebuild against libeb12, 1, alpha amd64 arm hppa hurd-i386
i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc

Cheers

Luk



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Re: Mozilla plans for the lenny cycle

2007-04-14 Thread Alexander Sack
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 08:51:52AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
 Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt didn't write:
 
 The currently known upstream plans are the following:
 - Firefox 3.0 is expected around Q2 2007.
 - Xulrunner 1.9 should be expected at the same time.
 - Seamonkey 1.5 should be expected some time in 2007.
 - Thunderbird 3.0 is expected around Q1 2008.

Firefox3.0 is expected in december 2007 ... more realistically in
januar 2008 ... thats what I heard in one of the last firefox status
meetings.

for thunderbird 3.0 ... I would expect nothing.

 
 They are all expected to be buildable on top of xulrunner (except itself,
 obviously), which means we'll finally be able to have less pain for
 stable maintenance. Even if not, it is my personal lenny goal to make
 this happen.

ack ... if there is something missing for this, we should definitly
contribute upstream. They are probably happy to get help on this
... of course we have to begin in time ... e.g. submit patches at best
before ffox beta 2 (read: end Q2/ start Q3 2007).

 
 As no other roadmap has been publicly depicted, I can't tell if by 18
 months Firefox will be at version 4 or other, but it is likely that
 there won't be new major releases for Firefox after 3.0 before Lenny,
 effort probably going on the Mozilla 2.0 platform, which has a huge
 change plan, thus may take a while to come to completion.
 

no comment and info on this from my side.

 - Alexander

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Request for give-backs for rtorrent

2007-04-14 Thread Luk Claes
Hi

Can someone please give back rtorrent_0.7.1-1 on alpha, mips, powerpc and
sparc as libtorrent-dev = 0.11.1 was not yet available on these architectures
when a first build was tried?

Cheers

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Request of binNMUs of nut

2007-04-14 Thread Luk Claes
Hi

Can someone schedule binNMUs for:

nut_2.0.5-3, Rebuild against fixed libgd2 (shlibs was wrong), 1, alpha mips

Current installed packages on alpha and mips are uninstallable...

Cheers

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Please consider a binNMU on reprepro due to libarchive transition.

2007-04-14 Thread Neil Williams
Regarding #418637.

I've prepared a new release of deb-gview which Build-Depends on
libarchive-dev. libarchive1 has been replaced by libarchive2 in
unstable but I cannot find any ABI/API change as yet - I use deb-gview
and reprepro regularly (I suspect others would use the two together as
well) and when I recompiled deb-gview and reprepro against libarchive2,
both compiled and functioned perfectly.

I'm ready to make an upload of deb-gview and I'm wondering if a binNMU
of reprepro is worthwhile to allow deb-gview, libarchive2 and reprepro
to be installable together.

It does seem to be working around the problem in libarchive, rather
than fixing it, so I'm really asking whether a binNMU of reprepro is the
best solution to #418637.

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Re: Bug#419111: context: Fails to install: ctxfmtutil: line 12: kpsewhich: command not found

2007-04-14 Thread Frank Küster
Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 08:56:28AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:

 Now that the debhelper change has been reverted, we can't rebuild
 texlive with fixed tex-common.  We need to upload a reverted tex-common,
 and then rebuild texlive.  Until this has happened, buildds should be
 prevented to install texlive if that is possible, and the buildds need
 to be fixed.  I think they will even fix themselves as soon as they once
 installed and then purged a working version.

 What happens if we do install texlive other then it breaks on removal?

Nothing if the right packages will be installed.  But as soon as it was
attempted once, everytime it is tried the next time builds will fail
because they think the postrm-failed texlive packages are still
installed and do not try to install them again.  That's what resulted in
the context error in the second build log.

If none of the buggy texlive packages are installed, the new ones will
be automatically picked up when they are available.  If they are
installed, the least that needs to be done is to manually install and
purge the new ones; I didn't check whether this is sufficient.

I know we should, but I don't have any time this weekend, and Norbert
probably not much, and we rather upload working packages as soon as
possible.  If the automatic cleanup (i.e. just installing the new ones)
does not help, we need an other upload of tex-common to fix this.

Regards, Frank
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Dr. Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)



Request of give-back of libglade-java_2.12.4-1+b1 on alpha and powerpc

2007-04-14 Thread Luk Claes
Hi

Can someone please give back libglade-java_2.12.4-1+b1 on alpha and powerpc?
The missing build dependency libgnome-jni (= 2.12.3-1) is now available on
alpha and powerpc.

Cheers

Luk


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