Re: Proposed release goal for lenny: Switch to dependency based boot system

2007-06-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:37:55PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 Steve Langasek wrote:
  What do the dependency-based init system replacements that have been
  proposed to date do in order to handle init scripts that don't have LSB
  headers?  Is there some sort of backwards-compatibility interface so that
  those init scripts will at least be run?

 Based on a conversation I had with Pere, insserv assumes such
 scripts have *no* dependencies, and runs them first. :-(

Well, that seems... suboptimal. :)  And something of a barrier to adoption.

What would be a better heuristic?  Even running these scripts last instead
of first would seem better.  Would it make sense to keep track of the
sysvinit number for each script, and for each script without dependency
information, treat /all/ lower-numbered scripts as dependencies?

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Re: etch and kernels2.4

2007-06-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-06-17 19:48:10, schrieb Pierre Habouzit:
   Then you have to stay with sarge. too bad.

I think, you do not understand the problem IF someone is using the Stock
Debian Kernel she/he can not upgrade to Etchm since  ALL Etch-Kernels
have SMP compiled in.

It is realy bad from Debian to kick off its USERS.  The MOST USERS do
not know HOW to compile there OWN KERNEL since they are ONLY USERS.

I find your answer VERY annoying and it is against the SC:

Social Contract with the Free Software Community
snip
  4. Our priorities are our users and free software
 We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free software
 community. We will place their interests first in our priorities.
 We will support the needs of our users for operation in many
 different kinds of computing environments. We will not object to
 non-free works that are intended to be used on Debian systems, or
 attempt to charge a fee to people who create or use such works. We
 will allow others to create distributions containing both the
 Debian system and other works, without any fee from us. In
 furtherance of these goals, we will provide an integrated system
 of high-quality materials with no legal restrictions that would
 prevent such uses of the system.


Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
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Re: etch and kernels2.4

2007-06-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 04:29:43PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 Am 2007-06-17 19:48:10, schrieb Pierre Habouzit:
Then you have to stay with sarge. too bad.

 I think, you do not understand the problem IF someone is using the Stock
 Debian Kernel she/he can not upgrade to Etchm since  ALL Etch-Kernels
 have SMP compiled in.

This is way off-topic for debian-release.  Please take your complaints about
Debian kernel packages to a bug report or a more appropriate list (probably
debian-user).

 I find your answer VERY annoying and it is against the SC:

Quoting the SC like this ought to be a banning offense...

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please binNMU gnome-applets on amd64

2007-06-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi,

it looks like gnome-applets was built on amd64 with some experimental
dependencies. Can anyone schedule a binNMU on this architecture please?

gnome-applets_2.18.0-4, Rebuild in a clean sid environment, 1, amd64

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Re: please binNMU gnome-applets on amd64

2007-06-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:46:25PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:

 it looks like gnome-applets was built on amd64 with some experimental
 dependencies. Can anyone schedule a binNMU on this architecture please?

 gnome-applets_2.18.0-4, Rebuild in a clean sid environment, 1, amd64

gnome-applets:
  Package : gnome-applets
  Version : 2.18.0-4
  Builder : buildd_i386-excelsior
  State   : Building
  Section : gnome
  Priority: optional
  Installed-Version   : 2.18.0-4
  Previous-State  : Needs-Build
  State-Change: 2007 Jun 28 14:01:37
  Binary-NMU-Changelog: Rebuild in pristine unstable environment
  Binary-NMU-Version  : 1
  Notes   : out-of-date

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Drupal packages in testing

2007-06-29 Thread Luigi Gangitano

Hi releasers,
I found out that drupal-4.7 and drupal5 packages are not being  
accepted in testing on your request and I'm wondering why.


Can you please unlock them?

Thanks,

L

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Bug#431128: gnome-applets: depends on experimental library versions

2007-06-29 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Package: gnome-applets
Version: 2.18.0-4
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable (uninstallable)

At least on amd64, gnome-applets depends on versions of libglib2.0-0
and libgtk2.0-0 that are only available from experimental; I expect a
binary-only NMU should resolve the matter.

Could you please look into it?

Thanks!

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.21.5 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages gnome-applets depends on:
ii  cdebconf [debconf-2.0] 0.117 Debian Configuration Management Sy
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]  1.5.13Debian configuration management sy
ii  gconf2 2.18.0.1-3GNOME configuration database syste
ii  gnome-applets-data 2.18.0-4  Various applets for GNOME 2 panel 
ii  gnome-icon-theme   2.18.0-3  GNOME Desktop icon theme
ii  gnome-panel2.18.2-2+b1   launcher and docking facility for 
ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa 0.10.13-2 GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good 0.10.6-1  GStreamer plugins from the good 
ii  libapm13.2.2-8.1 Library for interacting with APM d
ii  libatk1.0-01.18.0-2  The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libbonoboui2-0 2.18.0-5  The Bonobo UI library
ii  libc6  2.5-11GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcairo2  1.4.10-1  The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libcpufreq0002-5 shared library to deal with the cp
ii  libdbus-1-31.1.1-3   simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libdbus-glib-1-2   0.73-2simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libfontconfig1 2.4.2-1.2 generic font configuration library
ii  libgconf2-42.18.0.1-3GNOME configuration database syste
ii  libglade2-01:2.6.1-1 library to load .glade files at ru
ii  libglib2.0-0   2.12.12-1 The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgnome-desktop-2 2.18.2-1  Utility library for loading .deskt
ii  libgnome2-02.18.0-4  The GNOME 2 library - runtime file
ii  libgnomekbd1   2.18.2-1  GNOME library to manage keyboard c
ii  libgnomekbdui1 2.18.2-1  User interface library for libgnom
ii  libgnomeui-0   2.18.1-2  The GNOME 2 libraries (User Interf
ii  libgnomevfs2-0 1:2.18.1-3GNOME Virtual File System (runtime
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base0 0.10.13-2 GStreamer libraries from the base
ii  libgstreamer0.10-0 0.10.13-2 Core GStreamer libraries and eleme
ii  libgtk2.0-02.10.13-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libgtop2-7 2.14.9-1  gtop system monitoring library
ii  libgucharmap6  1:1.10.0-2Unicode browser widget library (sh
ii  libhal10.5.9.1-2 Hardware Abstraction Layer - share
ii  libnotify1 [libnotify1-gtk 0.4.4-3   sends desktop notifications to a n
ii  liborbit2  1:2.14.7-0.1  libraries for ORBit2 - a CORBA ORB
ii  libpanel-applet2-0 2.18.2-2+b1   library for GNOME Panel applets
ii  libpango1.0-0  1.16.4-1  Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libwnck18  2.18.2-1  Window Navigator Construction Kit 
ii  libx11-6   2:1.0.3-7 X11 client-side library
ii  libxcursor11:1.1.8-2 X cursor management library
ii  libxext6   1:1.0.3-2 X11 miscellaneous extension librar
ii  libxfixes3 1:4.0.3-2 X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extensio
ii  libxi6 1:1.0.1-4 X11 Input extension library
ii  libxinerama1   1:1.0.2-1 X11 Xinerama extension library
ii  libxklavier11  3.2-2 X Keyboard Extension high-level AP
ii  libxml22.6.29.dfsg-1 GNOME XML library
ii  libxrandr2 2:1.2.1-1 X11 RandR extension library
ii  libxrender11:0.9.2-1 X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  python 2.4.4-6   An interactive high-level object-o

Versions of packages gnome-applets recommends:
ii  deskbar-applet 2.18.1-2  universal search and navigation ba
ii  gnome-media2.18.0-2+b1   GNOME media utilities
ii  gnome-netstatus-applet 2.12.1-1  Network status applet for GNOME 2
ii  gnome-system-monitor   2.18.2-1  Process viewer and system resource
ii  imagemagick7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-1 Image manipulation programs
ii  libgnomevfs2-extra 1:2.18.1-3GNOME Virtual File System (extra m
ii  tomboy 0.6.3-1   desktop note 

Re: Drupal packages in testing

2007-06-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 21:45:18 +0200, Luigi Gangitano wrote:

 Hi releasers,
 I found out that drupal-4.7 and drupal5 packages are not being  
 accepted in testing on your request and I'm wondering why.
 
It's blocked because of security concerns [0].  I don't know whether
those have been resolved...

Cheers,
Julien

[0] http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/hints/luk


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