Graphviz 2.26.3 (transition)

2010-02-28 Thread David Claughton
Hi Release Team,

Graphviz 2.26.3 has been in experimental for just about a month and we
(as in the graphviz maintainers) now feel it is ready for uploading to
unstable.

This involves a transition as the existing libgraphviz4 package has been
split into separate packages for each library and two libraries have
soname bumps.

Once uploaded it looks like BinNMUs will be required for the following
packages.

  imagemagick
  python-pygraphviz
  anjuta-extras
  ggobi
  flowcanvas

When would you like us to upload?

Cheers,

David.




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Re: RC severity for Python 2.6 related bugs

2010-02-28 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 23:11, Vincent Bernat  wrote:
> I also tend to  believe that there are a lot of  packages that will just
> fail to run  with Python 2.6 but will have no  problem to build, because
> for  most packages,  building  just means  to  copy files  in the  right
> location. The later we switch to  Python 2.6, the more difficult it will
> be to catch those bugs.

I absolutely agree with this (even though, for those packages that
byte-compile the files they install, it's a smaller problem) and I
fear there are several situations where there are hidden bugs only
discovered with (long) *usage* of a system with 2.6 as default:
waiting to do the switch, doesn't help to release a better squeeze,
only a worst and buggier one.

Additionally, as a side note, unstable is "unstable" by definition:
its users knows it, and if something breaks in it, it will either be
fixed or not in stable, so "break users apps" problem is less
appealing (even though it exists).

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Re: RC severity for Python 2.6 related bugs

2010-02-28 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Vers la fin de l'après-midi du dimanche 28 février 2010, vers 16:46,
Josselin Mouette  disait :

>> It would be far  easier to let Python 2.6 be the  default, then file (or
>> upgrade) serious  bugs and solve them in  a week or two.

> Yeah sure, let’s knowingly break dozens of packages by switching instead
> of fixing them before and make it painless for users.

Sorry,  I really don't  see any  relation between  FTBFS and  breaking a
package. I don't  have any handy stat to support my  claims (and I don't
maintain  enough  Python  packages  to  turn this  affirmation  into  an
universal one), but  there are packages that fail  to build from sources
because they are not able to run unittests but work fine with Python 2.6
as default. Therefore, we get RC bugs for packages that build fine (with
current default Python) and run fine (with all supported Python).

I also tend to  believe that there are a lot of  packages that will just
fail to run  with Python 2.6 but will have no  problem to build, because
for  most packages,  building  just means  to  copy files  in the  right
location. The later we switch to  Python 2.6, the more difficult it will
be to catch those bugs.
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Re: Frozen haskell packages?

2010-02-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Joachim Breitner (nome...@debian.org) [100228 18:17]:
> although the haskell packages are not really close to a transitional
> state yet (armel just built the compiler, mips and mipsel haven’t yet),
> I had a look at the haskell packages on
> http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php. I did not see any surprising
> problems, but I was wondering why the packages haskell-hsh and
> haskell-hsql have a [FROZEN] prepended. Is this something left-over from
> a previous transition? Does this need action?

Ignore the FROZEN please, that's an bug in the script. I probably
should just remove that part.


Cheers,
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Bug#571972: Please binNMU promoe/0.1.1-1 and xmms2-scrobble/0.4.0-1 against xmms2 0.7DrNo

2010-02-28 Thread Benjamin Drung
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Severity: normal
User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: binnmu

Please rebuild these two packages against xmms2 0.7DrNo. All other xmms2 
clients needs to be patched to support 0.7DrNo.

nmu promoe/0.1.1-1 . ALL . -m "Rebuild against xmms2 0.7DrNo."
nmu xmms2-scrobbler/0.4.0-1 . ALL . -m "Rebuild against xmms2 0.7DrNo."
dw promoe/0.1.1-1 xmms2-scrobbler/0.4.0-1 . ALL . -m 'libxmmsclient-dev (>= 
0.7DrNo)'

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Frozen haskell packages?

2010-02-28 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi release team,

although the haskell packages are not really close to a transitional
state yet (armel just built the compiler, mips and mipsel haven’t yet),
I had a look at the haskell packages on
http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php. I did not see any surprising
problems, but I was wondering why the packages haskell-hsh and
haskell-hsql have a [FROZEN] prepended. Is this something left-over from
a previous transition? Does this need action?

Also, it seems that we will not get a solution for ia64. Is there a
problem with removing the ia64 haskell packages from testing now, or
should we do it as late as possible? (Assuming that this is actually the
correct thing to do.)

Greetings,
Joachim

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Re: OK to update Boost defaults?

2010-02-28 Thread Steve M. Robbins
[please cc me on replies]

Marc,

I appreciate the rapid feedback.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:09:51PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> "Steve M. Robbins"  writes:
> > So, three questions:
> >
> > 1. Is it appropriate to change boost-defaults now (from a transitions
> >point of view)?
> 
> No. We are currently trying to work out the hdf5 and ghc6 transitions
> and have enormous buildd backlogs on mips*, making a binNMU campagain
> for long-building packages (and let's face it, most of boost users take
> more than a few seconds to build...) a problem right now.


OK, so what's the process now?  I just uploaded a new revision
1.42.0-2 so it will be at least 10 more days until it transitions.
Shall I wait for that and ping you again?  Or will you put Boost in a
"transitions queue" and let me know when you are ready for the
boost-defaults change?


Regards,
-Steve


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Bug#548642: transition: liblo

2010-02-28 Thread Felipe Sateler
As far as I can tell, no reverse build-dep of liblo is involved in the
current ghc or hdf transitions. Can we upload new liblo to unstable and
schedule binNMUs?

csound
dssi
fluidsynth-dssi
freej
hexter
jackbeat*
jamin
ll-scope
nekobee
qtractor
rosegarden*
sineshaper*
whysynth
wsynth-dssi
xsynth-dssi


* These packages need sourceful uploads because they build-depend on a
versioned liblo0-dev. Bugs have already been filed for these (530852,
530859 and 571961).

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Re: RC severity for Python 2.6 related bugs

2010-02-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jonathan Wiltshire (deb...@jwiltshire.org.uk) [100228 17:19]:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 04:46:09PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 15:29 +0100, Vincent Bernat a écrit : 
> > > It would be far  easier to let Python 2.6 be the  default, then file (or
> > > upgrade) serious  bugs and solve them in  a week or two.
> > 
> > Yeah sure, let’s knowingly break dozens of packages by switching instead
> > of fixing them before and make it painless for users.
> 
> I think we need to do both before we end up running out of time. I
> propose that we upgrade/file bugs as serious so that they get maintainer
> attention where possible, and allow (let's say) 7 days to react.
> 
> After this time, Python 2.6 should become default in sid and all such bugs
> are NMU candidates. If nothing else gets maintainer's attention, this will.

Such bugs *are* as of today NMU candidates, if they are marked
important or serious and have an working patch for longer than 7 days.


Switching the default should be done when it's ready. Switching the
default too early will only increase work load but doesn't allow us to
reach the goal earlier.

Trust us, we want to see python2.6 as default in squeeze. This however
only works step by step.


Cheers,
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Re: RC severity for Python 2.6 related bugs

2010-02-28 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Jonathan Wiltshire  (28/02/2010):
> I think we need to do both before we end up running out of time. I
> propose that we upgrade/file bugs as serious so that they get
> maintainer attention where possible, and allow (let's say) 7 days to
> react.

What about providing with patches instead of only playing around with
severity? *That* would help things going forward…

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Re: RC severity for Python 2.6 related bugs

2010-02-28 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 04:46:09PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 15:29 +0100, Vincent Bernat a écrit : 
> > It would be far  easier to let Python 2.6 be the  default, then file (or
> > upgrade) serious  bugs and solve them in  a week or two.
> 
> Yeah sure, let’s knowingly break dozens of packages by switching instead
> of fixing them before and make it painless for users.

I think we need to do both before we end up running out of time. I
propose that we upgrade/file bugs as serious so that they get maintainer
attention where possible, and allow (let's say) 7 days to react.

After this time, Python 2.6 should become default in sid and all such bugs
are NMU candidates. If nothing else gets maintainer's attention, this will.


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Re: RC severity for Python 2.6 related bugs

2010-02-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org) [100228 16:50]:
> Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 15:29 +0100, Vincent Bernat a écrit : 
> > It would be far  easier to let Python 2.6 be the  default, then file (or
> > upgrade) serious  bugs and solve them in  a week or two.
> 
> Yeah sure, let’s knowingly break dozens of packages by switching instead
> of fixing them before and make it painless for users.

That's the reason why the release team prefers (and has decided) that
such bugs are serious (using their delegation powers).


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Re: RC severity for Python 2.6 related bugs

2010-02-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 15:29 +0100, Vincent Bernat a écrit : 
> It would be far  easier to let Python 2.6 be the  default, then file (or
> upgrade) serious  bugs and solve them in  a week or two.

Yeah sure, let’s knowingly break dozens of packages by switching instead
of fixing them before and make it painless for users.

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Re: RC severity for Python 2.6 related bugs

2010-02-28 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 15:29, Vincent Bernat  wrote:
> OoO Pendant le  journal télévisé du samedi 27  février 2010, vers 20:19,
> Luca Falavigna  disait :
>
>> after some discussions on #debian-python, I'd like to propose
>> increasing severity of Python 2.6 related bugs [1] to serious.
>
> Well, I disagree. Python 2.6  is not the default. Packages are currently
> built with Python 2.5 and do not fail to build in a current pbuilder.

I tend to concur: they should be RC when 2.6 is the default, which is
still not, for no reason.

> We
> already  had a bunch  of bug  reports about  packages not  building with
> Python 2.6  as default a  few months ago  and it was  a mess to  setup a
> pbuilder to build with Python 2.6 as default [1]. The solution is easier
> now but not documented (to the best of my knowledge).

It still needs manual setup, and it's not so known how to do, and of
course there was no support from python maintainer in at least setting
2.6 as default in experimental, just to help people debug and fix
those bugs. I've asked this in late December, no reply came, (but it's
so difficult is to change 5 lines in debian/rules of python-default to
help releasing with 2.6 as default...).

> I  am also still  lost why  Python transition  communication is  done in
> debian-release@ and not in debian-pyt...@.

Because Python maintainer is unable to communicate, with anyhow. The
only audience he cares a bit is the Release Team. debian-python is
completely ignored by him.

> debian-python@ contains posts
> like "Why default  python is not 2.6 yet?" that  got not really answered
> because the transition seems to be managed behind the scene.

the transition is simply not handled by the Python maintainer. It is
handled by the people he ignores by filing bugs, preparing patches and
NMU, and interacting with RT for binNMUs. Often it is done on irc, so
no public trace is left.

> It would be far  easier to let Python 2.6 be the  default, then file (or

INDEED!

> upgrade) serious  bugs and solve them in  a week or two.  Most bug FTBFS
> reports that I  received for my Python packages is  related to the build
> process and does not hinder the  package from working with Python 2.6. I
> think this is the case for most simple packages because the hard work is
> done by python-support.

That's why setting 2.6 should have set as default *ages* ago: did
anyone hear from Python maintainer about it (even after kind and
less-kind queries)? Of course, no, thank you...

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Bug#571949: marked as done (nmu: liblouisxml_2.1.0-1)

2010-02-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Hello,

liblouis has changed its ABI and thus the library package name.
liblouisxml now needs to be rebuilt against the new library (it is the
only package using it).

nmu liblouisxml_2.1.0-1 . ALL . -m "Rebuild against the new liblouis2"

Thanks

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Hi,

On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 14:57 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> liblouis has changed its ABI and thus the library package name.
> liblouisxml now needs to be rebuilt against the new library (it is the
> only package using it).
> 
> nmu liblouisxml_2.1.0-1 . ALL . -m "Rebuild against the new liblouis2"

Scheduled.

Regards,

Adam

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Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:

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Bug #571359 [src:dots] dots: FTBFS: Unsatisfiable build-dependency: 
liblouisxml-bin: Depends: liblouis0 but it is not installable
Was not blocked by any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 571359: 571949
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build-priorities usage changed -> use large values

2010-02-28 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi,

I just multiplied all build-priorities with 100. Reason behind that is
that there is an patch that will add different priorities. So please
replace any usage of "1" with "100" etc. (Of course, you could use
more fine-granular dependencies as well - feel free to do that. But
don't be surprised if they start to have an different effect on the
sort order than you used to be.)


Re the patch:
There are two new fields in --info. Also there are two new sort
options, C and W. C sorts by the new algorithm, W by waiting time.

Sorting default is (unchanged) PScpsn, which means build-priority,
(>= standard?), already built in the past, priority, section, name
(and the first non-equal criterion is used to sort).

The values for C are a sum of
priority: required: 50, important: 40, standard: 30, optional: 5
section: libs: 4, devel: 2
component: contrib: -10, non-free: -20
notes: uncompiled: 20, out-of-date: 40, partial: 40
("partial" as this was the case up to now - don't think we still use
that)

Also, up to 6 full waiting days increase the sum by 2 for each waiting
day.

To that value any permanent and current build priority is added (both
if both exist).

The packages are then sort by numbers.


(To see the order I would propose add -OCWn to list=needs-build, which
means calculated order, waiting days, name.)



Comments? (Please avoid having -release in your follow up.)



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Re: RC severity for Python 2.6 related bugs

2010-02-28 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Pendant le  journal télévisé du samedi 27  février 2010, vers 20:19,
Luca Falavigna  disait :

> after some discussions on #debian-python, I'd like to propose
> increasing severity of Python 2.6 related bugs [1] to serious.

Well, I disagree. Python 2.6  is not the default. Packages are currently
built with Python 2.5 and do not fail to build in a current pbuilder. We
already  had a bunch  of bug  reports about  packages not  building with
Python 2.6  as default a  few months ago  and it was  a mess to  setup a
pbuilder to build with Python 2.6 as default [1]. The solution is easier
now but not documented (to the best of my knowledge).

I  am also still  lost why  Python transition  communication is  done in
debian-release@ and not in debian-pyt...@. debian-python@ contains posts
like "Why default  python is not 2.6 yet?" that  got not really answered
because the transition seems to be managed behind the scene.

It would be far  easier to let Python 2.6 be the  default, then file (or
upgrade) serious  bugs and solve them in  a week or two.  Most bug FTBFS
reports that I  received for my Python packages is  related to the build
process and does not hinder the  package from working with Python 2.6. I
think this is the case for most simple packages because the hard work is
done by python-support.

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=557925
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Bug#571949: nmu: liblouisxml_2.1.0-1

2010-02-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: binnmu

Hello,

liblouis has changed its ABI and thus the library package name.
liblouisxml now needs to be rebuilt against the new library (it is the
only package using it).

nmu liblouisxml_2.1.0-1 . ALL . -m "Rebuild against the new liblouis2"

Thanks

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Re: RC severity for Python 2.6 related bugs

2010-02-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Luca Falavigna (dktrkr...@debian.org) [100227 20:19]:
> after some discussions on #debian-python, I'd like to propose
> increasing severity of Python 2.6 related bugs [1] to serious.
> 
> Some Release Team members already stated they want Python 2.6 for
> Squeeze, and having more focus on those bugs gives interested developers
> more chances to provide patches and eventually prepare NMUs.

Normally we don't want that as NMUing important bugs is allowed as
well as with RC bugs, and people who want something to change should
be prepared to do the work for it.


However, given the very good past record of the python people on
providing bug fixes and NMUing (and that many issues are already
resolved), I think this is the exception of the rule. In other words:
yes, please go ahead. (I just assume that you all will continue to
work on bug fixes, NMUs etc.)


Thanks for your great work on python.


Cheers,
Andi


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Re: [stable] please approve upload of liblog-handler-perl 0.45-1+lenny1 fixing #502853

2010-02-28 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-=| Adam D. Barratt, Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:13:45PM + |=-
> On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 11:56 +0200, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> > Please approve the upload of liblog-handler-perl/0.45-1+lenny1. 
> > This would fix a grave bug, #502853 in stable.
> 
> Please go ahead.

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Re: swath outdated on mipsel

2010-02-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt (h...@ftwca.de) [100228 12:05]:
> Theppitak Karoonboonyanan  writes:
> > swath 0.4.0-4 appears to build succesfully on mipsel buildd [1] but it's not
> > installed yet [2]. What can I do to get it into testing?
> 
> It just needed the build admin to sign the build log. That happened now,
> the package has been uploaded and installed into the archive.

In this case, the log was lost. Mailing $a...@buildd.d.o is more
appropriate (but I cleaned up logs a bit now).


Cheers,
Andi


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Re: binNMUs for hdf5

2010-02-28 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Thomas Weber  writes:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 01:39:32PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
>> Thomas Weber  writes:
>> > please schedule the following binNMUS:
>> Done.
> Now, two more
>
> nmu octave-communications .  ALL . -m "Rebuild against hdf5"
> dw octave-communications . ALL . -m "octave-signal (>= 1.0.10-2)"
>
> nmu octave-econometrics .  ALL . -m "Rebuild against hdf5"

Scheduled, thanks for the note.

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Re: gettext, autopoint and cvs

2010-02-28 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Santiago Vila  writes:
> I've decided to implement "Plan B" anyway: create autopoint as an
> empty package which depends on gettext and cvs, as doing so will not
> break packages currently having cvs in their build-depends. Then will
> submit normal bugs asking to change their build-depends.

Thanks, this will make this easier for the release team. You may file
them as important, though. You may want to use user-tags to mark these
bugs, for easier tracking of the transition.

> Depending on how fast those bugs are fixed, we can decide about making
> this transition a release goal or not.

Yes, I guess so.

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Re: OK to update Boost defaults?

2010-02-28 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
"Steve M. Robbins"  writes:
> So, three questions:
>
> 1. Is it appropriate to change boost-defaults now (from a transitions
>point of view)?

No. We are currently trying to work out the hdf5 and ghc6 transitions
and have enormous buildd backlogs on mips*, making a binNMU campagain
for long-building packages (and let's face it, most of boost users take
more than a few seconds to build...) a problem right now.

> 2. If so, is it a problem to have boost-defaults point to a version
>not yet in testing?

Yes, this could complicate matters.

> 3. If so, would you advise waiting for 1.42 to transition, or
>to update to 1.41 now then update to 1.42 when it does transition?

No, please switch to 1.42 directly.

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Re: swath outdated on mipsel

2010-02-28 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Theppitak Karoonboonyanan  writes:
> swath 0.4.0-4 appears to build succesfully on mipsel buildd [1] but it's not
> installed yet [2]. What can I do to get it into testing?

It just needed the build admin to sign the build log. That happened now,
the package has been uploaded and installed into the archive.

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OK to update Boost defaults?

2010-02-28 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hi Release Team,

[Please cc me on replies, thanks]

I have prepared an update to boost-defaults.  I'd like some
guidance as to whether it is appropriate to upload now.

At present, boost-defaults points to 1.40.  Since Boost 1.42 is
uploaded and built on most architectures, I am considering
leapfrogging 1.41 and setting defaults to 1.42.

So, three questions:

1. Is it appropriate to change boost-defaults now (from a transitions
   point of view)?

2. If so, is it a problem to have boost-defaults point to a version
   not yet in testing?

3. If so, would you advise waiting for 1.42 to transition, or
   to update to 1.41 now then update to 1.42 when it does transition?

Thanks,
-Steve

P.S. The boost-defaults strategy was hashed out on debian-release in
the Spring of 2009.  See threads starting at:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/03/msg00147.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00251.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/05/msg00011.html



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