Bug#572839: transition: graphviz

2010-03-06 Thread David Claughton
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User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: transition
Severity: normal

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Hi,

I sent the following to the list last week but didn't get a response -
maybe it fell through the cracks?

If so, that might have been my fault for failing to file it as a bug
report - so allow me to rectify that now ...

Cheers,

David.

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Hi Release Team,

Graphviz 2.26.3 has been in experimental for just about a month and we
(as in the graphviz maintainers) now feel it is ready for uploading to
unstable.

This involves a transition as the existing libgraphviz4 package has been
split into separate packages for each library and two libraries have
soname bumps.

Once uploaded it looks like BinNMUs will be required for the following
packages.

  imagemagick
  python-pygraphviz
  anjuta-extras
  ggobi
  flowcanvas

When would you like us to upload?

Cheers,

David.

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Linear Algebra Libraries

2010-03-06 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
Hello,

I am planning to upload some modifications in the way Linear Algebra
Libraries BLAS / LAPACK and ATLAS are handle in Debian. These libraries
are very used by many scientific software.
They didn't have many attentions during the last few years and ATLAS in
unstable is in a pretty bad shape (old version, plenty of bugs, hard to
use ...)
I described what I am planning to do in this wiki page:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianScience/LinearAlgebraLibraries
and my changes have been tested.

There will be no need of transition since the ABI remains the same and
is pretty stable (it is very common to switch between BLAS and LAPACK
implementation) and the the impact should be low.

I would like your opinion on these uploads.

Sylvestre


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Re: Timeouts, Was: Bug#571745: nmu: highlighting-kate_0.2.5-4

2010-03-06 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva  writes:
> Excerpts from Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt's message of Sáb Mar 06 06:26:43 -0300 
> 2010:
>> This seems a bit more problematic than I originally assumed. 
>> 
>> Consider for example agda on sparc:
>> https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=agda;ver=2.2.6-3;arch=sparc;stamp=1267334936
>> sparc is not a fast architecture, but also not the slowest one supported
>> by Debian. In this case, it failed to build the package because a single
>> file needed more than 500 minutes to compile. If this is indeed not due
>> to a bug, but expected behaviour, it seems not supportable anymore.
> It seems that the build time of agda for some arches grew very much with
> ghc6-6.12.1, specially hppa and sparc:
>
> agda   2.2.6-2   2.2.6-3
>
> hppa   04:57:19  60:57:00+
> kfreebsd-i386  00:17:10  00:11:39
> mips   02:35:19  03:54:06
> mipsel 02:34:59  04:04:43
> powerpc00:26:37  00:27:16
> s390   00:47:49  02:00:55

highlight-kate was rebuilt again today on s390, leading to this:
[26 of 61] Compiling Text.Highlighting.Kate.Syntax.Java ( 
Text/Highlighting/Kate/Syntax/Java.hs, 
dist-ghc6/build/Text/Highlighting/Kate/Syntax/Java.p_o )
virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory

I can't believe that this is not a bug.

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Re: Timeouts, Was: Bug#571745: nmu: highlighting-kate_0.2.5-4

2010-03-06 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Hi Marc.

Excerpts from Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt's message of Sáb Mar 06 06:26:43 -0300 
2010:
> Joachim Breitner  writes:
> > Am Freitag, den 05.03.2010, 14:53 +0100 schrieb Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt:
> >> Joachim Breitner  writes:
> >> > nmu highlighting-kate_0.2.5-4 . i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 
> >> > . -m "rebuild against changed pcre-light ABI"
> >> Done. Got lost in the cracks somehow. Do you know why its hitting
> >> timeouts on other archs? Is this something we could fix?
> > Probably just because it needs a lot of memory and CPU power, and the
> > other arches have difficulties compiling the package in time.
> 
> This seems a bit more problematic than I originally assumed. 
> 
> Consider for example agda on sparc:
> https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=agda;ver=2.2.6-3;arch=sparc;stamp=1267334936
> sparc is not a fast architecture, but also not the slowest one supported
> by Debian. In this case, it failed to build the package because a single
> file needed more than 500 minutes to compile. If this is indeed not due
> to a bug, but expected behaviour, it seems not supportable anymore.

It seems that the build time of agda for some arches grew very much with
ghc6-6.12.1, specially hppa and sparc:

agda   2.2.6-2   2.2.6-3

hppa   04:57:19  60:57:00+
kfreebsd-i386  00:17:10  00:11:39
mips   02:35:19  03:54:06
mipsel 02:34:59  04:04:43
powerpc00:26:37  00:27:16
s390   00:47:49  02:00:55
sparc  03:23:58  08:33:05+

For ghc6 this didn't happened; when the time grew, it grew not very much:

ghc6   6.10.4-1  6.12.1-12

alpha  13:05:04  14:40:30
amd64  01:24:19  01:31:30
armel  100:47:35 127:04:23
hppa   12:25:45  16:08:58
kfreebsd-i386  01:21:37  02:14:17
mips   20:03:36  15:31:51
mipsel 20:03:22  16:25:52
powerpc04:59:03  03:25:32
s390   07:20:55  03:24:32
sparc  50:23:08  07:22:11

Maybe this is related to something in the agda's code interaction with the new
version of ghc6 in hppa and sparc; possibly a bug somewhere.

> How should slower archs (like mips*, armel) handle such packages? Is
> splitting this up in smaller files an option?

Splitting in smaller files is not very different from what I proposed in
debian-haskell of using a verbose build.  The good option in this case would be
adding --ghc-options=-v2 to Setup configure.  I think that, if these
packages are not going to be dropped for these arches, this is a good enough
workaround.  At least it seems to me to be better than what's being used now:
watcher.sh (#571824).

Greetings.
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Re: Timeouts

2010-03-06 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Samstag, den 06.03.2010, 10:26 +0100 schrieb Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt:
> Joachim Breitner  writes:
> > Am Freitag, den 05.03.2010, 14:53 +0100 schrieb Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt:
> >> Joachim Breitner  writes:
> >> > nmu highlighting-kate_0.2.5-4 . i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 
> >> > . -m "rebuild against changed pcre-light ABI"
> >> Done. Got lost in the cracks somehow. Do you know why its hitting
> >> timeouts on other archs? Is this something we could fix?
> > Probably just because it needs a lot of memory and CPU power, and the
> > other arches have difficulties compiling the package in time.
> 
> This seems a bit more problematic than I originally assumed. 
> 
> Consider for example agda on sparc:
> https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=agda;ver=2.2.6-3;arch=sparc;stamp=1267334936
> sparc is not a fast architecture, but also not the slowest one supported
> by Debian. In this case, it failed to build the package because a single
> file needed more than 500 minutes to compile. If this is indeed not due
> to a bug, but expected behaviour, it seems not supportable anymore. How
> should slower archs (like mips*, armel) handle such packages? Is
> splitting this up in smaller files an option?

Even if possible, I’m not sure if that would help: Having more smaller
files will give more output on the build log, but still take the very
long time it takes.

If the package requires too much resources for such an architecture to
build, maybe it’s an indication that these architectures are also a too
weak to use the package, and therefore there would be no loss to drop
support for these packages on the affected arches (i.e. remove any
existing old builds and add the files to N-F-U)? At least until a user
on these arches complains?

Greetings,
Joachim

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Re: Timeouts, Was: Bug#571745: nmu: highlighting-kate_0.2.5-4

2010-03-06 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Joachim Breitner  writes:
> Am Freitag, den 05.03.2010, 14:53 +0100 schrieb Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt:
>> Joachim Breitner  writes:
>> > nmu highlighting-kate_0.2.5-4 . i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 . 
>> > -m "rebuild against changed pcre-light ABI"
>> Done. Got lost in the cracks somehow. Do you know why its hitting
>> timeouts on other archs? Is this something we could fix?
> Probably just because it needs a lot of memory and CPU power, and the
> other arches have difficulties compiling the package in time.

This seems a bit more problematic than I originally assumed. 

Consider for example agda on sparc:
https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=agda;ver=2.2.6-3;arch=sparc;stamp=1267334936
sparc is not a fast architecture, but also not the slowest one supported
by Debian. In this case, it failed to build the package because a single
file needed more than 500 minutes to compile. If this is indeed not due
to a bug, but expected behaviour, it seems not supportable anymore. How
should slower archs (like mips*, armel) handle such packages? Is
splitting this up in smaller files an option?

Marc
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