Freetennis (was Re: arm release issues)

2006-08-31 Thread BALLABIO GERARDO
Andreas Barth wrote:
> we decided to configure the testing migration script to ignore missing
binaries on arm for now.

From
http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=freetennis
I read that the only reason this package isn't entering testing is "not
yet built on arm". So I wonder what is happening?

Thank you
 Gerardo



Re: Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-18 Thread BALLABIO GERARDO
> No, what allowed sarge to go out the door with DFSG violations was an
unambigous GR by a majority of the debian developers who decided to
include
those non-free firmware (and GFDL docs, and some random fonts, and ...),
into
sarge even though they didn't quite meet the DFSG.
>
> That vote is not valid for etch though, as we decided to waive that
only for
sarge, so only a new GR will allow debian to release the current kernel
with
non-free firmware as part of etch, independently of the migration
scripts you
are so worried about above.

I disagree. If there's non-free material in main, that's a bug. Nothing
in the Constitution or policy says that this class of bugs should be
treated differently than all others, therefore the normal rule applies:
for each unresolved bug, the release managers are ultimately in power to
decide whether it's a release blocker or not. A General Resolution is
only needed to _overrule_ the release managers' decision.

The reason a GR was needed for Sarge was precisely that the then release
manager, Anthony Towns, had stated that the non-free material in Sarge
was a release blocker, so that had to be overruled. But if the current
release team decides that Etch can be released, then it can be released.
In fact, you'd need a GR to force them _not_ to release.

 Gerardo



Re: Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-07 Thread BALLABIO GERARDO
May I remind you all that debian-release is NOT a discussion list?
I think the respective positions are clear. Now can the release team
please step in and say what their view on the matter is, which AFAICS is
the only reason why this thread should belong to this list?

Gerardo