vim-vimoutliner to stable-proposed-updates?
Hi, the problem is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=316626 -- it is one of those "last minute before freezing stable" uploads and it went horribly wrong, resulting that current Debian/stable has non-functional package. I tried to persuade Joey, that vim-vimoutliner should go to stable-proposed-updates, but he rejected me, because VO didn't seem to be important enough for him. However, number of grumbling users of stable Debian is getting higher, so I would like to ask once more -- could the current vim-vimoutliner from testing go to stable-updates? There has not been a big bugs for a long time (currently, there is no open bug (I forgot to close #383694). Best, Matěj -- 23 Marion St. #3, Cambridge, MA 02141, (617) 876-1259 http://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/, map http://tinyurl.com/r2lfa GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC Just remember, brothers and sisters--their skins may be white, but their souls are just as black as ours! -- a black preacher -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge
Steve Langasek scripsit: > The one currently in the archive is *not* commented out by default, AIUI. > If one gets uploaded to unstable that provides a no-op vimoutlinerrc by > default, I would be willing to approve it. New version (-6) has been uploaded into incoming.debian.org (it is also visible through pacakges.debian.org). Is it approved then? Thanks for the help, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 In political activity men sail a boundless and bottomless sea; there is neither harbor for shelter nor floor for anchorage, neither starting point nor appointed destination. -- Michael Oakeshott: Rationalism in Politics -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge
martin f krafft scripsit: >> I thought that adding this innocent wish-bug (which really >> shouldn't break anything) should not be offensive to Steve and >> couple of users (apparently packaging this into Debian doubled > > It's not about being offensive or intrusive, it's about trying to > get sarge out the door with stable software. Soory, my sloopy writing and/or laziness to find a better word -- of course, that I understood that whole discussion was purely technical ("Sorry man -- nothing personal", said Johny before the first shot :-)). > I think the release team approved it, so we can settle this > discussion. Thanks for your good work for Debian! Can you then upload -6 package into unstable, please? Thanks, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 I used to date a woman who did PR and marketing for MS, so you can imagine we had some in-depth and sometimes heated discussions about MS vs. Linux and Macs. Well, one day we were going hiking, and she presented me with a really nice backback. The only issue with it was that it had the MS logo emblazoned all over it. Of course, she knew I wouldn't refuse it. Anyway, she said to me, "Isn't that nice? See? What'd RedHat ever give you for free?" I replied, "An operating system." That was one long, quiet hike. -- disserto on Slashdot http://slashdot.org/comments.pl\ ?sid=138492&tid=109&mode=thread&cid=11590292 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge
Steve Langasek scripsit: > Adding a config that's commented out by default should be ok. So is it approved? Thanks! Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. -- Oscar Wilde -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge
martin f krafft scripsit: > Nevertheless, you are basically fixing a wishlist bug here (although > no bug ever existed), and we have entered the freeze. Of course we > could try to make exceptions here and another one here and yet > another exception for that package over there, but then we won't > ever release. Well, I am fixing two important bugs (one is actually merged from other package vim-latexsuite) which are breaking Debian VIM policy (not using helpztags, which breaks help files for other supplemental vim packages). I thought that adding this innocent wish-bug (which really shouldn't break anything) should not be offensive to Steve and couple of users (apparently packaging this into Debian doubled number of actual users!) really complained about missing plugins, because they are apparently very popular (one of them basically allows managing huge todo lists in vim). However, if the inclusion of /etc/vim/vimoutliner should mean that whole package would not go into sarge and thus these two important bugs wouldn't be fixed then I would gladly eliminate /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc. Should I do it? Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 He loves nature in spite of what it did to him. -- Forrest Tucker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 martin f krafft scripsit: >> 1) to create -6 version of package, which would have empty (or >> fully commented out) /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc. >> 2) to create -6 version of package without >> any /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc (everything should work as well, >> because vim's runtime! is not offended when the file is not >> available), > > I prefer 1 or 2, but Steve has a good point. I think you need to > decide for yourself whether this new release really needs to go into > sarge. If it does, I don't think either of the above two are going > to make a big difference. OK, I choose #1 (/etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc fully commented out) and it is actually just now available at http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/progs/debian (usual place). >> 3) to create -6 version of package without a mechanism for >> loading /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc > > Does upstream support it? Well, actually upstream is much more oriented towards personal installation (i.e., install to $HOME), so most of the site-wide tricks I had to do on my own (of course, upstream is fully aware of what I am doing). So the only change I really did to the upstream is that in ftplugin/vo_base.vim (the main script of the whole thing) is this: - --- vimoutliner-0.3.3.orig/ftplugin/vo_base.vim +++ vimoutliner-0.3.3/ftplugin/vo_base.vim @@ -564,8 +564,8 @@ " Added an indication of current syntax as per Dillon Jones' request let b:current_syntax = "outliner" - -" Personal configuration options files as per Matej Cepl +" Personal configuration options files setlocal runtimepath+=$HOME/.vimoutliner,$HOME - -ru .vimoutlinerrc +runtime! .vimoutlinerrc vimoutlinerrc " The End " vim600: set foldmethod=marker foldlevel=0: And then I just added new the copy of upstream example to /etc/vim. Matej - -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCgO7K4J/vJdlkhKwRAhGYAJ9LSwF8dnB0Mt7JfsK1Cw27UbnjZQCdF21Y /pnhdWSD61TMOT+l8Nb9C8A= =gq1k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge
Steve Langasek scripsit: >>* Created a global configuration file /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc, >> which is read before and in addition to ~/.vimoutlienrrc. > > Sorry, but this change could have significant effects on the behavior of > the package, and is not appropriate during a freeze. The /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc shipped with the package doesn't do currently anything else than it loads two plugins into the main script -- I was asked for that by the users. However, to make it acceptable for sarge, I see three options: 1) to create -6 version of package, which would have empty (or fully commented out) /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc. 2) to create -6 version of package without any /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc (everything should work as well, because vim's runtime! is not offended when the file is not available), 3) to create -6 version of package without a mechanism for loading /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc Which one is the least acceptable to you? Should I rise urgency to something else, and if yes to what? Thanks, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 The ratio of literacy to illiteracy is a constant, but nowadays the illiterates can read. -- Alberto Moravia pgpusuw0yuIbP.pgp Description: PGP signature
vim-vimoutliner -- please allow to sarge
Hi, please consider vim-vimoutliner 0.3.3-5 (currently accepted into incoming with priority low) for Sarge. It fixes two important bugs (#307527, #307906). The package is uploaded through sponsor (Martin F. Krafft). Changelog is here: * Using helpztags instead of internal vim commands (according to vim policy, closes: bug#307527, bug#307906) * Created a global configuration file /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc, which is read before and in addition to ~/.vimoutlienrrc. * vo_maketags.pl works even when user doesn't have ~/.vimoutliner created (and creates it for him). * do not install useless filetype.vim; vim makes now ftdetect subdirectory working per default. * because of the previous, bump up the minimal version of vim required to 6.3 (available in Debian/sarge). Thank you, Matej Cepl -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Do not long for the night, when people vanish in their place. Be careful, do not turn to evil; for you have preferred this to affliction. -- Job 36:20f (NASB) pgpp1RBtCu8V7.pgp Description: PGP signature