vim-vimoutliner to stable-proposed-updates?

2006-09-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Hi,

the problem is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=316626 -- it
is one of those "last minute before freezing stable" uploads and it went
horribly wrong, resulting that current Debian/stable has non-functional
package. I tried to persuade Joey, that vim-vimoutliner should go to
stable-proposed-updates, but he rejected me, because VO didn't seem to be
important enough for him. However, number of grumbling users of stable
Debian is getting higher, so I would like to ask once more -- could the
current vim-vimoutliner from testing go to stable-updates? There has not
been a big bugs for a long time (currently, there is no open bug (I forgot
to close #383694).

Best,

Matěj
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Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge

2005-05-11 Thread Matej Cepl
Steve Langasek scripsit:
> The one currently in the archive is *not* commented out by default, AIUI.
> If one gets uploaded to unstable that provides a no-op vimoutlinerrc by
> default, I would be willing to approve it.

New version (-6) has been uploaded into incoming.debian.org (it is also
visible through pacakges.debian.org). Is it approved then?

Thanks for the help,

Matej

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Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge

2005-05-11 Thread Matej Cepl
martin f krafft scripsit:
>> I thought that adding this innocent wish-bug (which really
>> shouldn't break anything) should not be offensive to Steve and
>> couple of users (apparently packaging this into Debian doubled
> 
> It's not about being offensive or intrusive, it's about trying to
> get sarge out the door with stable software.

Soory, my sloopy writing and/or laziness to find a better word -- of course,
that I understood that whole discussion was purely technical ("Sorry man --
nothing personal", said Johny before the first shot :-)).

> I think the release team approved it, so we can settle this
> discussion. Thanks for your good work for Debian!

Can you then upload -6 package into unstable, please?

Thanks,

Matej

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Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Matej Cepl
Steve Langasek scripsit:
> Adding a config that's commented out by default should be ok.

So is it approved? Thanks!

Matej

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Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Matej Cepl
martin f krafft scripsit:
> Nevertheless, you are basically fixing a wishlist bug here (although
> no bug ever existed), and we have entered the freeze. Of course we
> could try to make exceptions here and another one here and yet
> another exception for that package over there, but then we won't
> ever release.

Well, I am fixing two important bugs (one is actually merged from other
package vim-latexsuite) which are breaking Debian VIM policy (not using
helpztags, which breaks help files for other supplemental vim packages).

I thought that adding this innocent wish-bug (which really shouldn't break
anything) should not be offensive to Steve and couple of users (apparently
packaging this into Debian doubled number of actual users!) really
complained about missing plugins, because they are apparently very popular
(one of them basically allows managing huge todo lists in vim).

However, if the inclusion of /etc/vim/vimoutliner should mean that whole
package would not go into sarge and thus these two important bugs wouldn't
be fixed then I would gladly eliminate /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc. Should I do
it?

Matej

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Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Matej Cepl
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martin f krafft scripsit:
>> 1) to create -6 version of package, which would have empty (or
>> fully commented out) /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc.
>> 2) to create -6 version of package without
>> any /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc (everything should work as well,
>> because vim's runtime! is not offended when the file is not
>> available),
> 
> I prefer 1 or 2, but Steve has a good point. I think you need to
> decide for yourself whether this new release really needs to go into
> sarge. If it does, I don't think either of the above two are going
> to make a big difference.

OK, I choose #1 (/etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc fully commented out) and it is
actually just now available at http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/progs/debian
(usual place).

>> 3) to create -6 version of package without a mechanism for
>> loading /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc
> 
> Does upstream support it?

Well, actually upstream is much more oriented towards personal installation
(i.e., install to $HOME), so most of the site-wide tricks I had to do on my
own (of course, upstream is fully aware of what I am doing). So the only
change I really did to the upstream is that in ftplugin/vo_base.vim (the
main script of the whole thing) is this:

- --- vimoutliner-0.3.3.orig/ftplugin/vo_base.vim
+++ vimoutliner-0.3.3/ftplugin/vo_base.vim
@@ -564,8 +564,8 @@
 " Added an indication of current syntax as per Dillon Jones' request
 let b:current_syntax = "outliner"

- -" Personal configuration options files as per Matej Cepl
+" Personal configuration options files
 setlocal runtimepath+=$HOME/.vimoutliner,$HOME
- -ru .vimoutlinerrc
+runtime! .vimoutlinerrc vimoutlinerrc
 " The End
 " vim600: set foldmethod=marker foldlevel=0:

And then I just added new the copy of upstream example to /etc/vim.

Matej

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Re: vim-vimoutliner -- please allow into sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Matej Cepl
Steve Langasek scripsit:
>>* Created a global configuration 
file /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc,
>>  which is read before and in addition to ~/.vimoutlienrrc.
> 
> Sorry, but this change could have significant effects on the 
behavior of
> the package, and is not appropriate during a freeze.

The /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc shipped with the package doesn't do 
currently anything else than it loads two plugins into the main 
script -- I was asked for that by the users. However, to make it 
acceptable for sarge, I see three options:

1) to create -6 version of package, which would have empty (or 
fully commented out) /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc.
2) to create -6 version of package without 
any /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc (everything should work as well, 
because vim's runtime! is not offended when the file is not 
available),
3) to create -6 version of package without a mechanism for
loading /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc

Which one is the least acceptable to you? Should I rise urgency 
to something else, and if yes to what?

Thanks,

Matej


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vim-vimoutliner -- please allow to sarge

2005-05-09 Thread Matej Cepl
Hi,

please consider vim-vimoutliner 0.3.3-5 (currently accepted into 
incoming with priority low) for Sarge. It fixes two important 
bugs (#307527, #307906). The package is uploaded through sponsor 
(Martin F. Krafft). Changelog is here:

   * Using helpztags instead of internal vim commands (according
 to vim policy, closes: bug#307527, bug#307906)
   * Created a global configuration file /etc/vim/vimoutlinerrc,
 which is read before and in addition to ~/.vimoutlienrrc.
   * vo_maketags.pl works even when user doesn't have
 ~/.vimoutliner created (and creates it for him).
   * do not install useless filetype.vim; vim makes now ftdetect
 subdirectory working per default.
   * because of the previous, bump up the minimal version of vim
 required to 6.3 (available in Debian/sarge).

Thank you,

    Matej Cepl

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