Re: [squeeze] permission to upload thunar-volman

2011-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/26/2011 06:01 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 18:00 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:

Isn't it auto*run* which opens a vulnerability, and thus should be
disabled by default?


Autorun can leads to somehow direct exploitation.


Right.



Disabling automount&  autobrowse seem to be security overkill.


Autobrowse means a file manager is opened, which, by default, tries to
make thumbnails of files, which, in turn, can lead to code execution by
exploiting bugs in pdf parsers.



Ah.

Turn off thumbnailing of removable media?

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Re: [squeeze] permission to upload thunar-volman

2011-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson

On 02/26/2011 05:32 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 18:00 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

[snip]


Apologies if I'm missing something obvious, but what's the motivation
for making this change in stable?  The changelog for the proposed upload
and the corresponding upload to unstable don't provide any further
information afaics (hence the suspicion that I'm missing something).


There have been recent news about security issues with automount stuff
(linked with vulnerabilities in pdf parsers and thumbnailers). It
doesn't warrant a DSA, but I think it's safer to ship thunar-volman with
automount/autobrowse/autorun disabled by default.



Isn't it auto*run* which opens a vulnerability, and thus should be 
disabled by default?


Disabling automount & autobrowse seem to be security overkill.

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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-26 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 07/23/08 18:41, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 08:07:25PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> 
>>> That's just adding an arbitrary 5 days delay.  Uploading to experimental
>>> won't uncover new issues, because nobody uses packages in experimental.
> 
>> Uploading it to sid, will make a revertion to .25 much harder if
>> needed. Besides that, we'd need to know if it _at least_ builds on all
>> architectures and then be ready to upload meta packages...
> 
> No, it really would be a waste of time.  2.6.25 is already in testing, so
> t-p-u is still there as an update path; but no one on the kernel side is
> really considering 2.6.25 to be an option for lenny, and the sooner we get
> 2.6.26 into unstable the sooner we can get everything smoothed out for
> lenny.

2.6.26 has updated udf code for reading Blue-Ray disks, and ISOs
burned on them.

So, even now, people need a kernel that will read them, and I'm
eagerly awaiting that kernel to be loaded to experimental or sid.

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Re: Bug#395252: ignore bug 395252 'mplayer embeds ffmpeg' for lenny

2008-06-18 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 06/18/08 10:11, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:09:06PM +0200, A Mennucc wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> 2) Another point is that
>> http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/secure-testing/data/embedded-code-copies?op=file&rev=0&sc=0
>> lists many packages which ship embedded copies.  One example is
>> mozilla/iceweasel/iceape.  Iceweasel had 9 security bugs in Etch.
>> Iceweasel has ~500 bugs (!!). So iceweasel should be kept out of
>> Lenny, since it contains embedded copies of code and is quite
>> buggy. But no one is ever posting this RC bug.  Why? Beats me.
> 
> Note iceweasel 3.0, which is planned for Lenny, while it contains
> embedded copy of code, does *not* use it. Find another example.

Contains embedded code, but doesn't use it?

And it hasn't been/can't be stripped out?  (I've been in the
industry long enough to know that that is a symptom of serious,
systemic problems within the application.)

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Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 06/16/08 04:19, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:57:32AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
>> We still very regularly get installation reports where people use lilo 
>> rather than grub, so it must still have a fairly significant user base. I 
>> would say that the activity on the bug report shows the same.
> 
> OTOH, aren't most of these choosing lilo over grub only doing so by
> habit ?

Does it matter?

Debian doesn't just have one web broswer, one MUA, one IM app, one
scripting language, one word processor, one movie player, etc, etc,
etc.  So why should it only have one boot loader?

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Re: flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.48.0.1etch1 for Stable

2007-07-27 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 07/26/07 17:30, Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 08:28:41AM +0200, Bart Martens wrote:
>> Hi Stable Debian-Release,
>> Hi Security Team,
>>
> 
> Not speaking in any official capacity here, but:
> 
> Lets have a look at the vulnerabilities which still affect etch:
> CVE-2007-2022 - "Unspecified vulnerability ... unspecified impact and
>  remote attack vectors." but looks like a keylogger if
>  someone visits a malicious webpage.
> CVE-2007-3456 - "Unspecified vulnerability .. related to an input
>  validation error." - arbitrary code execution.
> 
> So fairly serious.
> 
> It seems that 9.0.45.0 was only for Mac/Windows, and 9.0.47.0/9.0.48.0
> is only for linux.
> AFAICT, 9.0.48.0 is 9.0.31.0 + security fixes (as described in
> APSB07-12[0]), except for sparc, which implements the 9.0.31.0 features
> for that arch (probably a good thing).

It apparently also has some feature upgrade(s)/bug fixes, because
.48 plays New York Times videos, whereas .31 would not.

>> 1. We could flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.48.0.1etch1 to Stable soon.  The
>> only change is the update of the MD5 checksums.  Obviously the upstream
>> Flash plugin itself may have been modified heavily, no idea.
>> 2. I can create a special flashplugin-nonfree package for Stable to
>> remove the insecure plugin from the Stable systems, notifying the users
>> of this removal, and suggesting them to use Backports.
> 
> I'd suggest heavy testing (if this hasn't been done already) on the
> 9.0.48.0 package with the aim of working out if new features have been
> added.
> 
> If not, then it may be possible that this really is a bugfix only
> release, and IMO would be suitable for an update.
> 
> Neil
> [0] http://www.adobe.com/go/apsb07-12


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Re: etch and kernels2.4

2007-06-30 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/20/07 09:28, Michelle Konzack wrote:
[snip]


If you have suggestions (in general HOW to replace the current computers
to more modern Hardware) please let me know.  The TWO 19" SPARC are
working perfectly too, but are too expensive for my customers.


Get local people to install an air conditioner in the DC?

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Re: etch and kernels2.4

2007-06-17 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/17/07 10:13, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Am 2007-06-13 16:59:23, schrieb Pierre Habouzit:

  If people were reading release notes, we wouldn't have this problem,
as etch release notes ask users to install a 2.6 kernel already.


My problem is, that I have several Mainboards which refuse to
work with the Debian-Kernles and SMP compiled in so there was
NO WAY to install a 2.6 kernel.  (I had upgraded and reboted
but it does not more start with the new 2.6 Kernel)


What happened when you rolled your own 2.6 kernel, with the 
necessary chipset/etc drivers?


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Re: BIND 8 deprecation for the release notes

2007-01-11 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 01/11/07 13:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 07:30:39PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 Sure, but python2.5 is not really usable: almost all the python modules a=
>>> re
 compiled only for python2.4. For postgresql you are right and I'm wrong,
 but I suppose that there are other examples in the archive where the only=
>>>  a
 major release is released.
 =20
 Anyway, my question still applies. :)
 =20
>>> That got me wondering and it appears that Etch will ship with Apache
>>> 1.3.34? Why?  It is considered a legacy release by ASF?  Is the Debian
>>> security team really willing to support it for another 2-3 years?
> If you have a large webserver farm / custom modules for Apache / your 
> third party application has hooks into Apache 1.3, you may still want 
> it.  Apache 2 will be what many will install: it may be useful to retain 
> the choice.
> 
>> The same goes for bind8, only that I didn't receive a 
>> sustantial reply at all...
> 
> Again: if your infrastructure / expertise is in BIND 8 and you can't 
> afford to move? For some small group of users that may be reason enough.

Would popcon statistics be (imperfect but) useful in this situation?



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Re: new mplayer

2006-09-22 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/21/06 10:26, Joseph Smidt wrote:
> I understand the freeze is probably too soon, but I need mplayer for making
> movies I need for my physics research.  Please allow this mplayer into
> Etch.

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main

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Re: postgresql transition/upgrade strategy

2006-09-11 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/11/06 09:43, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Because of the transition to the multi-version postgresql packaging, we will 
> have the situation in etch that someone who just does "apt-get install 
> postgresql" (as has been the custom for many years) will always end up with 
> the old version 7.4 instead of the newer 8.1.  (The reason that postgresql 
> points to postgresql-7.4 is so that people's servers will continue running, 
> because postgresql is 7.4 in sarge.)
> 
> Now a couple of people have expressed worries about that and I was asked to 
> bring it up on -release.
> 
> A couple of ideas that have been thrown around:
> 
> - Prevent new installations of postgresql (without -x.y); allow only upgrades.
> 
> - Depend on both 7.4 and 8.1.
> 
> None of these or any of the more crazy ones are particularly appealing, 
> though.

Speaking as a user, I'd prefer having to specify the -x.y during the
apt-get.  It removes the ambiguity.


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Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-06 Thread Ron Johnson
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George Danchev wrote:
> On Saturday 05 August 2006 17:30, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> In linux.debian.kernel Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> I see that the lawyers of SuSE and Red Hat do not believe this to be
>>>> true or at least do not consider it a problem, and this is enough for
>>>> me to ignore the opinion of the debian-legal@ armchair lawyers.
>>> Could they have signed license agreements that we (not being
>>> executives of RHAT and Novell) don't know about?
>> While it may be possible in theory, it's also very hard to believe.

Because?

> If there are any signed license agreements, then they will probably drop some 
> notes in the {src}.rpm packages themselves they distribute to give their 
> users a clue, since these users are the most interested end to be aware of 
> that legal situation.

Do any Debianites read SRC.RPM packages?

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Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

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> On Aug 04, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>>> think not?  Prove it by proposing a GR.  More importantly, the release team
>>> I had such a plan, but no time to implement it currently.
>> How do you handle the fact that it is a license violation making the
>> thing illegal to distribute?
> I see that the lawyers of SuSE and Red Hat do not believe this to be
> true or at least do not consider it a problem, and this is enough for
> me to ignore the opinion of the debian-legal@ armchair lawyers.

Could they have signed license agreements that we (not being
executives of RHAT and Novell) don't know about?

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Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch

2005-10-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 00:06:35 +0200
Jan-Benedict Glaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-10-09 00:00:37 +0200, Falk Hueffner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:40:15PM +0200, Falk Hueffner
> > > wrote: I saw on the wiki page a mention that HP sells new
> > > systems at insane prices.  But the link didn't give
> > > pricing.  Do you know what new systems sell for?
> > 
> > I don't really recall, but it was way beyond being an actual
> > option.
> 
> You can buy big iron these days, but probably not desktop-sized
> boxes.

http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/workstations.html
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/workstations/ds15/

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Re: To block GNOME 2.10 or not

2005-06-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 09:30 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> the GNOME team is facing a dillema regarding the migration of GNOME 2.10
> to sarge. The issue comes from #313219 : basically, gnomeVFS 2.10
^

Do you mean Sarge or testing?  (Realizing that Sarge was testing
for so long that there's lots of sarge<->testing muscle memory.)

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Re: May I suggest a New Name for Debian unstable? :(

2005-01-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 19:24 +0100, Sebastian Ley wrote:
> * Stephen Pinker wrote:
> > Debian unstable...  it just has a bad sound to it. :(
> 
> ...for a reason! The name should and does indicate that newbies better stay 
> away from it. On the other hand we have the short and nice codename "Sid" for 
> unstable...

So call it "expert"?

Sid is definitely usable by a power-user able to stomach the occa-
sional bump in the road.  Maybe my computer needs are just limited,
but I find Sid very usable and having a low-enough bug count for
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Re: May I suggest a New Name for Debian unstable? :(

2005-01-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 19:24 +0100, Sebastian Ley wrote:
> * Stephen Pinker wrote:
> > Debian unstable...  it just has a bad sound to it. :(
> 
> ...for a reason! The name should and does indicate that newbies better stay 
> away from it. On the other hand we have the short and nice codename "Sid" for 
> unstable...

So call it "expert"?

Sid is definitely usable by a power-user able to stomach the occa-
sional bump in the road.  Maybe my computer needs are just limited,
but I find Sid very usable and having a low-enough bug count for
an excellent desktop experience.

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Re: Preparation of the next stable Debian GNU/Linux update (III)

2004-12-18 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 20:22 +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 19:53 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > > Not directly related to 3.0r4, but while we are at it:
> > > 
> > > Would be possible to remove packages in security.debian.org which are
> > > already part of 3.0r3?
> > 
> > Isn't that "not correct", since someone who installs from 3.0 or
> > 3.0r[123] disks will need all of the packages in security.d.o to
> > be able to upgrade to the latest secure revisions?
> 
> In general yes, but normally you also have the regular links to
> http.us.debian.org, no?

Well, it's moot in my case (I track sid).

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Re: Preparation of the next stable Debian GNU/Linux update (III)

2004-12-18 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 19:53 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> Not directly related to 3.0r4, but while we are at it:
> 
> Would be possible to remove packages in security.debian.org which are
> already part of 3.0r3?

Isn't that "not correct", since someone who installs from 3.0 or
3.0r[123] disks will need all of the packages in security.d.o to
be able to upgrade to the latest secure revisions?

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Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 13:12 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Op di, 16-11-2004 te 12:57 +0100, schreef Martin Schulze:
> > Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > It is. This is a myth which orignated due to the fact that my
> > > wanna-build documentation at
> > > http://people.d.o/~wouter/wanna-build-states used to say wanna-build
> > > incorporates urgency in its ordering, but I was mistaken. It has been
> > > fixed in the mean time, but it appears this is a myth which isn't easily
> > > forgotten
> > 
> > Just to get this straight, you fixed your documentation, the 
> > buildd/wanna-build
> > handling hasn't been fixed, right?
> 
> Yes.

Because buildd/wanna-build was never broken (in this regards),
right?

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