Re: [pkg-nvidia-devel] X stack for squeeze (was Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?)
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 04:23:11PM -0700, Randall Donald wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 20:21 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 03:51:57PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: - nouveau is nowhere near ready, and needs someone to take care of getting the userspace components (and firmware) in sid soon I know it's non-free, but I guess we should look for a nvidia proprietary solution too. It tends to accumulate lots of RC bugs. Any comments from the pkg-nvidia guys? We generally go with the latest version at the time of freeze and then build a kernel module package that is compatible. Other than that is there something else you are asking about? You mean regardless of 9 RC bugs opened against the package? That even sounds like please force the newest upstream versions into squeeze regardless of any packaging bugs, or do you want to release with the current version in testing? Kind regards, Philipp Kern -- .''`. Philipp KernDebian Developer : :' : http://philkern.de Stable Release Manager `. `' xmpp:p...@0x539.de Wanna-Build Admin `-finger pkern/k...@db.debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [pkg-nvidia-devel] X stack for squeeze
On 2010-03-17 09:37 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 04:23:11PM -0700, Randall Donald wrote: We generally go with the latest version at the time of freeze and then build a kernel module package that is compatible. Other than that is there something else you are asking about? You mean regardless of 9 RC bugs opened against the package? That even sounds like please force the newest upstream versions into squeeze regardless of any packaging bugs, or do you want to release with the current version in testing? Regarding the version in testing, could it please be removed? It has unfulfilled dependencies (needs kernel from Lenny) and does not work with current xserver-xorg-core (support for xserver 1.7 was added in 190.36, according to /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/NVIDIA_Changelog.gz). Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y6hrl41k@turtle.gmx.de
Re: [pkg-nvidia-devel] X stack for squeeze
Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org writes: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 04:23:11PM -0700, Randall Donald wrote: We generally go with the latest version at the time of freeze and then build a kernel module package that is compatible. Other than that is there something else you are asking about? You mean regardless of 9 RC bugs opened against the package? That even sounds like please force the newest upstream versions into squeeze regardless of any packaging bugs, or do you want to release with the current version in testing? Generally, the problem with RC bugs against nvidia-graphics-drivers are just lack of team manpower so far as I can tell (as a user but not someone involved in the team). Each time I look at them, most of them should be downgraded (#523879) or just closed (#534873, #561239, #549869, #548840), or while a bug are probably no longer relevant enough to really be RC (#558369), or ones that I've never been able to reproduce despite building the package all the time (#416594). The problem is mostly people not having enough time for bug triage and cleanup. Very little of that high RC bug count represents any serious problem with the current packages in unstable other than reflecting that lack of time. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sk7z8h5x@windlord.stanford.edu
Re: [pkg-nvidia-devel] X stack for squeeze
On 17/03/2010 09:51, Russ Allbery wrote: Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org writes: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 04:23:11PM -0700, Randall Donald wrote: We generally go with the latest version at the time of freeze and then build a kernel module package that is compatible. Other than that is there something else you are asking about? You mean regardless of 9 RC bugs opened against the package? That even sounds like please force the newest upstream versions into squeeze regardless of any packaging bugs, or do you want to release with the current version in testing? Generally, the problem with RC bugs against nvidia-graphics-drivers are just lack of team manpower so far as I can tell (as a user but not someone involved in the team). Each time I look at them, most of them should be downgraded (#523879) or just closed (#534873, #561239, #549869, #548840), or while a bug are probably no longer relevant enough to really be RC (#558369), or ones that I've never been able to reproduce despite building the package all the time (#416594). The problem is mostly people not having enough time for bug triage and cleanup. Very little of that high RC bug count represents any serious problem with the current packages in unstable other than reflecting that lack of time. I agree with this statement. I have been investigating the packaging of nvidia-graphics-drivers and most bugs are unreproducible on my machines with 190.53. I had scheduled some time for bug triaging but due to an unexpected trip to China (and preparation for it) I had to delay. However, there is a critical security bug on nvidia-kernel-common very easy to fix that has to enter testing. PS: I am not formally part of the team, not being a DM/DD. But I do have an interest in joining it since I do the maintainance for many different machines almost all with nvidia GPU. -- Jean-Christophe Dubacq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ba0aef3.7070...@free.fr
Re: [pkg-nvidia-devel] X stack for squeeze (was Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?)
You mean regardless of 9 RC bugs opened against the package? That even sounds like please force the newest upstream versions into squeeze No of course not. I haven't looked at the RC bugs recently but they are generally fixed by newer upstream or the severity is too high. Regards, randy -- Randall Donald ra...@khensu.org http://www.khensu.orgrdon...@debian.org Programmer/Debian Developer GnuPG: 6C27DEAB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1268848338.1253.252.ca...@localhost.localdomain
Re: [pkg-nvidia-devel] X stack for squeeze
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: Generally, the problem with RC bugs against nvidia-graphics-drivers are just lack of team manpower so far as I can tell (as a user but not someone involved in the team). Each time I look at them, most of them should be downgraded (#523879) or just closed (#534873, #561239, #549869, #548840), or while a bug are probably no longer relevant enough to really be RC (#558369), or ones that I've never been able to reproduce despite building the package all the time (#416594). I've now triaged the RC bugs against nvidia-graphics-drivers and they should more accurately reflect the state of the package. Many of the bugs were already fixed and just weren't properly closed. One of them I downgraded. There are two open RC bugs, one of which is only borderline RC. Both now have patches attached to the bugs. One previously did and just wasn't tagged, and I added a patch for the other. Both are fairly simple. Another upload plus figuring out why the package didn't get built on i386 should resolve the remaining issues and let the version in unstable migrate to squeeze. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871vfiyb7q@windlord.stanford.edu
Re: [pkg-nvidia-devel] X stack for squeeze (was Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?)
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 20:21 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 03:51:57PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: - nouveau is nowhere near ready, and needs someone to take care of getting the userspace components (and firmware) in sid soon I know it's non-free, but I guess we should look for a nvidia proprietary solution too. It tends to accumulate lots of RC bugs. Any comments from the pkg-nvidia guys? We generally go with the latest version at the time of freeze and then build a kernel module package that is compatible. Other than that is there something else you are asking about? Kind regards, Philipp Kern ___ Pkg-nvidia-devel mailing list pkg-nvidia-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-nvidia-devel -- Randall Donald ra...@khensu.org http://www.khensu.orgrdon...@debian.org Programmer/Debian Developer GnuPG: 6C27DEAB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1268781791.1253.7.ca...@localhost.localdomain