Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-20 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:23:42AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Grant Grundler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-19 19:08]:
> > This is a good idea - switch to gcc-4.3 for everything but the kernel.
> > I didnt think this would be possible but I'm not sure why I thought that.
> 
> We use gcc-4.1 for the kernel anyway, rather than the default
> compiler.

fwiw, i'm comfortable with switching the kernel to gcc-4.2. i've been
using it for kernels on all my boxes since around christmas, i believe
(when i found problems with gcc-3.4 that made me move.)

i haven't tried it on any "older" boxes (pa1.1 based) but it seems to be
working well enough both 32-bit and 64-bit on my newer machines.

cheers, kyle


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-19 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Grant Grundler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-19 19:08]:
> This is a good idea - switch to gcc-4.3 for everything but the kernel.
> I didnt think this would be possible but I'm not sure why I thought that.

We use gcc-4.1 for the kernel anyway, rather than the default
compiler.
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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-19 Thread Grant Grundler
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:54:13AM -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:11:30PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > Have you narrowed done the problem to find if it is a gcc bug or a
> > kernel bug?
> > 
> 
> It fails with gcc-4.3, and works fine with all previous versions...
> 
> Don't get me wrong though, I support switching to gcc-4.3 by default. If
> anything, more breakages gives us a better chance to debug it.
> 
> I'd just need gcc-4.2 to stick around for a while for the kernel.

Kyle,
This is a good idea - switch to gcc-4.3 for everything but the kernel.
I didnt think this would be possible but I'm not sure why I thought that.

thanks,
grant


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-17 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:11:30PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> Have you narrowed done the problem to find if it is a gcc bug or a
> kernel bug?
> 

It fails with gcc-4.3, and works fine with all previous versions...

Don't get me wrong though, I support switching to gcc-4.3 by default. If
anything, more breakages gives us a better chance to debug it.

I'd just need gcc-4.2 to stick around for a while for the kernel.

regards, Kyle


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-17 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Kyle McMartin a écrit :
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:11:30PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
>> Have you narrowed done the problem to find if it is a gcc bug or a
>> kernel bug?
>>
> 
> It fails with gcc-4.3, and works fine with all previous versions...

I am actually asking that, because on the 3 problems detected when
switching glibc from gcc-4.2 to gcc-4.3, 2 were due to a bug on the
glibc side.

> Don't get me wrong though, I support switching to gcc-4.3 by default. If
> anything, more breakages gives us a better chance to debug it.

Agreed.

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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-17 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Kyle McMartin a écrit :
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:33:08AM -0600, Grant Grundler wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:48:09PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
>>> Grant Grundler writes:
>> ...
 Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
 Can I "apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3" on my hybrid system and get
 the right version?
>>> gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-hppa64 are both available in the same version in
>>> testing and unstable.
>> This is what I tested the 2.6.25-rc6 kernel with:
>>
>> j6k:~# gcc-4.3 -v
>> Using built-in specs.
>> Target: hppa-linux-gnu
>> Configured with: ../src/configure linux gnu
>> Thread model: posix
>> gcc version 4.3.1 20080309 (prerelease) (Debian 4.3.0-1)
>> j6k:~#
>>
>> And during update (currently running), I pulled:
>>
>> Get:11 http://mirror.anl.gov testing/main gcc-4.3-hppa64 4.3.0-3 [3113kB]
>>   
>> Get:12 http://mirror.anl.gov testing/main gcc-4.3-base 4.3.0-3 [105kB]   
>>   
>>
>> So I'll rebuild a kernel with that tomorrow and report back if no one
>> else can test that sooner.
>>
> 
> It's still broken, I tried today.
> 

Have you narrowed done the problem to find if it is a gcc bug or a
kernel bug?

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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-17 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:33:08AM -0600, Grant Grundler wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:48:09PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > Grant Grundler writes:
> ...
> > > Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
> > > Can I "apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3" on my hybrid system and get
> > > the right version?
> > 
> > gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-hppa64 are both available in the same version in
> > testing and unstable.
> 
> This is what I tested the 2.6.25-rc6 kernel with:
> 
> j6k:~# gcc-4.3 -v
> Using built-in specs.
> Target: hppa-linux-gnu
> Configured with: ../src/configure linux gnu
> Thread model: posix
> gcc version 4.3.1 20080309 (prerelease) (Debian 4.3.0-1)
> j6k:~#
> 
> And during update (currently running), I pulled:
> 
> Get:11 http://mirror.anl.gov testing/main gcc-4.3-hppa64 4.3.0-3 [3113kB] 
>  
> Get:12 http://mirror.anl.gov testing/main gcc-4.3-base 4.3.0-3 [105kB]
>  
> 
> So I'll rebuild a kernel with that tomorrow and report back if no one
> else can test that sooner.
> 

It's still broken, I tried today.


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-16 Thread Grant Grundler
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:48:09PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Grant Grundler writes:
...
> > Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
> > Can I "apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3" on my hybrid system and get
> > the right version?
> 
> gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-hppa64 are both available in the same version in
> testing and unstable.

This is what I tested the 2.6.25-rc6 kernel with:

j6k:~# gcc-4.3 -v
Using built-in specs.
Target: hppa-linux-gnu
Configured with: ../src/configure linux gnu
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.3.1 20080309 (prerelease) (Debian 4.3.0-1)
j6k:~#

And during update (currently running), I pulled:

Get:11 http://mirror.anl.gov testing/main gcc-4.3-hppa64 4.3.0-3 [3113kB]  
Get:12 http://mirror.anl.gov testing/main gcc-4.3-base 4.3.0-3 [105kB] 

So I'll rebuild a kernel with that tomorrow and report back if no one
else can test that sooner.

thanks,
grant


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-16 Thread Grant Grundler
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:48:09PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Grant Grundler writes:
> > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:53:54PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > ...
> > > FYI the glibc testsuite with gcc-4.3 on HPPA now gives the same results
> > > than with gcc-4.2, except on one FPU test, due to a bug in the *glibc*.
> > > 
> > > So it *seems* HPPA is ready for gcc-4.3 by default.
> > 
> > Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
> > Can I "apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3" on my hybrid system and get
> > the right version?
> 
> gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-hppa64 are both available in the same version in
> testing and unstable.

ok - I'll check tonight if that's the same version Kyle and I tried 3-4 weeks
ago. I reported the symptom and version numbers in this forum.

To remind: the symptom was NIC driver ws reporting it could see traffic
(ifconfig stats) but remote host was not seeing ICMP responses - only
ARP traffic.

thanks,
grant


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-16 Thread Matthias Klose
Grant Grundler writes:
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:53:54PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> ...
> > FYI the glibc testsuite with gcc-4.3 on HPPA now gives the same results
> > than with gcc-4.2, except on one FPU test, due to a bug in the *glibc*.
> > 
> > So it *seems* HPPA is ready for gcc-4.3 by default.
> 
> Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
> Can I "apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3" on my hybrid system and get
> the right version?

gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-hppa64 are both available in the same version in
testing and unstable.


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-15 Thread Grant Grundler
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:53:54PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
...
> FYI the glibc testsuite with gcc-4.3 on HPPA now gives the same results
> than with gcc-4.2, except on one FPU test, due to a bug in the *glibc*.
> 
> So it *seems* HPPA is ready for gcc-4.3 by default.

Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
Can I "apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3" on my hybrid system and get
the right version?

thanks,
grant


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-13 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Matthias Klose a écrit :
> Ludovic Brenta writes:
>> Now that gnat-4.3 is on all architectures, I would like to upload
>> gcc-defaults 1.70 making it the default on alpha, mips and mipsel as
>> for all other archs.
>>
>> As is, gcc-defaults cannot enter testing because on alpha, mips and
>> mipsel, if depends on gnat-4.2 which is not in testing and has RC
>> bugs.
>>
>> I've committed the necessary change in the Subversion repo but I will
>> not upload without approval.  So, is it OK to upload now?
> 
> please wait until Tue. the immediate need for the upload apparently
> was worked around by hinting both gnat-4.2 and gnat-4.3 into testing.
> 
> I'd like to re-ask the hppa porters, if they want to make 4.3 the
> default for lenny.
> 

FYI the glibc testsuite with gcc-4.3 on HPPA now gives the same results
than with gcc-4.2, except on one FPU test, due to a bug in the *glibc*.

So it *seems* HPPA is ready for gcc-4.3 by default.

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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Ludovic Brenta writes:
> Now that gnat-4.3 is on all architectures, I would like to upload
> gcc-defaults 1.70 making it the default on alpha, mips and mipsel as
> for all other archs.
> 
> As is, gcc-defaults cannot enter testing because on alpha, mips and
> mipsel, if depends on gnat-4.2 which is not in testing and has RC
> bugs.
> 
> I've committed the necessary change in the Subversion repo but I will
> not upload without approval.  So, is it OK to upload now?

please wait until Tue. the immediate need for the upload apparently
was worked around by hinting both gnat-4.2 and gnat-4.3 into testing.

I'd like to re-ask the hppa porters, if they want to make 4.3 the
default for lenny.

A short notice from the d-r team about by-passing RC reports would be
appreciated.


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