Bug#763278: wheezy-pu: gcc-4.9/4.9.1-14~deb7u1

2014-10-08 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 20:26 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  Control: tags -1 + moreinfo
 
  On Sun, 2014-09-28 at 16:00 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
  In order to continue providing security updates for chromium in
  wheezy, I would like to propose a gcc wheezy-pu.  I haven't tried to
  get this working yet, and am sending this to see whether the release
  team would even consider this.
 
  Have you discussed this with the gcc maintainers? What's their opinion
  on the idea, in terms of feasibility and supportability?
 
 Haven't yet, but I'll start a conversation.

Any news on that?

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Bug#763278: wheezy-pu: gcc-4.9/4.9.1-14~deb7u1

2014-10-03 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk schrieb:
 On 2014-10-01 13:25, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
 Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk schrieb:
 The alternative is to drop chromium security support for wheezy way 
 too soon.
 
 They're not the only alternatives. Granted, they may be the only ones
 which you're willing to support.
 
 What other alternatives do you have in mind?

 Well, someone could attempt to persuade upstream to delay the change, or 
 work on fixing things up to work with 4.7 where required.

 I didn't say they were great alternatives, simply that they exist.

Unfortunately they're not viable: Upstream wants to use C++11 features
and even if someone were to start on a Debian-specific patchset it
would only get bigger with every new Chromium release (and they make
new releases every few weeks).

Cheers,
Moritz


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Re: Bug#763278: wheezy-pu: gcc-4.9/4.9.1-14~deb7u1

2014-10-02 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk schrieb:
 The alternative is to drop chromium security support for wheezy way too soon.

 They're not the only alternatives. Granted, they may be the only ones
 which you're willing to support.

What other alternatives do you have in mind?

Cheers,
Moritz


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Re: Bug#763278: wheezy-pu: gcc-4.9/4.9.1-14~deb7u1

2014-10-02 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 2014-10-01 13:25, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:

Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk schrieb:
The alternative is to drop chromium security support for wheezy way 
too soon.


They're not the only alternatives. Granted, they may be the only ones
which you're willing to support.


What other alternatives do you have in mind?


Well, someone could attempt to persuade upstream to delay the change, or 
work on fixing things up to work with 4.7 where required.


I didn't say they were great alternatives, simply that they exist.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Bug#763278: wheezy-pu: gcc-4.9/4.9.1-14~deb7u1

2014-10-02 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Adam D. Barratt  wrote:
 Well, someone could attempt to persuade upstream to delay the change, or
 work on fixing things up to work with 4.7 where required.

Starting with chromium 38, they're using C++ features only implemented
in gcc = 4.8, and it seems like they're gung-ho about that, brazenly
announcing that they don't care about breaking old os versions in the
process.

Best wishes,
Mike


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Bug#763278: wheezy-pu: gcc-4.9/4.9.1-14~deb7u1

2014-10-02 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 Control: tags -1 + moreinfo

 On Sun, 2014-09-28 at 16:00 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 chromium 38 is currently planning to drop support for all compilers
 less than gcc 4.8 (and all clang not built against = gcc 4.8).  So
 wheezy will soon have no way to compile an up to date chromium.

 Can we quantify soon?

38 will be released in he next couple weeks, which is quite soon.

 In order to continue providing security updates for chromium in
 wheezy, I would like to propose a gcc wheezy-pu.  I haven't tried to
 get this working yet, and am sending this to see whether the release
 team would even consider this.

 Have you discussed this with the gcc maintainers? What's their opinion
 on the idea, in terms of feasibility and supportability?

Haven't yet, but I'll start a conversation.

Best wishes,
Mike


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Bug#763278: wheezy-pu: gcc-4.9/4.9.1-14~deb7u1

2014-09-30 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Control: tags -1 + moreinfo

On Sun, 2014-09-28 at 16:00 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 chromium 38 is currently planning to drop support for all compilers
 less than gcc 4.8 (and all clang not built against = gcc 4.8).  So
 wheezy will soon have no way to compile an up to date chromium.

Can we quantify soon?

 In order to continue providing security updates for chromium in
 wheezy, I would like to propose a gcc wheezy-pu.  I haven't tried to
 get this working yet, and am sending this to see whether the release
 team would even consider this.

Have you discussed this with the gcc maintainers? What's their opinion
on the idea, in terms of feasibility and supportability? 

 The alternative is to drop chromium security support for wheezy way too soon.

They're not the only alternatives. Granted, they may be the only ones
which you're willing to support.

Regards,

Adam


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2014-09-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#763278: wheezy-pu: gcc-4.9/4.9.1-14~deb7u1

2014-09-28 Thread Michael Gilbert
Package: release.debian.org
User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: pu
Severity: normal
Tags: security

chromium 38 is currently planning to drop support for all compilers
less than gcc 4.8 (and all clang not built against = gcc 4.8).  So
wheezy will soon have no way to compile an up to date chromium.

In order to continue providing security updates for chromium in
wheezy, I would like to propose a gcc wheezy-pu.  I haven't tried to
get this working yet, and am sending this to see whether the release
team would even consider this.

The alternative is to drop chromium security support for wheezy way too soon.

I'm proposing gcc 4.9 to hedge against future upstream compiler
requirements, but gcc 4.8 would also be an option.

Best wishes,
Mike


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