Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-08-08 Thread Frank Küster
Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Those really failed to build:
 - bison-1.35
   dvips bison.dvi -o bison.ps
   This is dvips(k) 5.95a Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software 
 (www.radicaleye.com)
   dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened.

I cannot reproduce this here. Do you have a build log available?

 - doc-debian-es:
   dvips -o debian-faq-es.ps debian-faq-es.dvi
   This is dvips(k) 5.95a Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software 
 (www.radicaleye.com)
   dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened.
 - gnuplot:
   dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened.
   (And other warnings.)

Trying these next...

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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-08-08 Thread Hilmar Preusse
On 07.08.05 Kurt Roeckx ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Hi,

 - gprolog
   hevea -O -nosymb -s -exec xxdate.exe -fix custom.hva manual.tex -o 
 manual.html
   /usr/bin/hevea: unknown option `-nosymb'.
 
I guess hevea has nothing to do with teTeX.

 - laptop-net:
   texi2pdf laptop-net.texi
   make[2]: texi2pdf: Command not found
 
texi2pdf was in tetex-bin. Dunno why it disappeared.

 - scalable-cyrfonts
   No file fontinst.rc.
   ) (./fnstcorr.tex
   ! Undefined control sequence.
   l.37 \catcode`\_=\underscorecatcode
 
Probably buggy document.

 - userv
   debiandoc2ps: ERROR: output could not be generated properly
 
Need an debiandoc2ps -v and probably -k for that.

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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-08-08 Thread Frank Küster
Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 This was the list of everything directly build depending on it,
 and I'll do one with the indirect build dependencies soon.

You can stop all build-depending on debiandoc-sgml: It has the classical
bug that produces PDF output with teTeX-3.0 even when dvi is desired,
causing almost everything to FTBFS.  I've not yet submitted a bug,
because I'm still testing the patch.

Should I file it as important and bump the severity to grave only when
teTeX-3.0 is unstable?  Or should I file as grave at once?

Regards, Frank

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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-08-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 06:49:16PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
 Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I can try to build all those for you if you want, and I'll report
  those where I think that show problems.
 
 That would be great.  I think most of the problems will show up in
 failed builds, some might result in different filelists (pdf file
 generated instead of dvi file, but somehow the build does not fail), a
 small number might result in wrong fonts being used.

I started with everything build depending on tetex-*.  Here is an
overview of packages which might have problems.  Note that I have
no clue what some of those message mean.

Those really failed to build:
- bison-1.35
  dvips bison.dvi -o bison.ps
  This is dvips(k) 5.95a Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software 
(www.radicaleye.com)
  dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened.
- ctie
  Unmet build dependencies: libkpathsea-dev (= 2.0.2-1)
- doc-debian-es:
  dvips -o debian-faq-es.ps debian-faq-es.dvi
  This is dvips(k) 5.95a Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software 
(www.radicaleye.com)
  dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened.
- gnuplot:
  dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened.
  (And other warnings.)
- gprolog
  hevea -O -nosymb -s -exec xxdate.exe -fix custom.hva manual.tex -o manual.html
  /usr/bin/hevea: unknown option `-nosymb'.
- iproute:
  error post-processing latex2e.
- laptop-net:
  texi2pdf laptop-net.texi
  make[2]: texi2pdf: Command not found
- make:
  dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened.
- ptex-bin
  syntax error: Last token = 289 (!), error buffer = `_',
last id = `O' (parameterless procedure).
  ./pconvert: conversion of  failed, moving dregs:
  ./pconvert:   mv jbibtex.c jbibtex.h jbibd.h ./failure
- python-crypto:
  pdfTeX error (ext1): \pdfinfo used while \pdfoutput is not set.
- scalable-cyrfonts
  No file fontinst.rc.
  ) (./fnstcorr.tex
  ! Undefined control sequence.
  l.37 \catcode`\_=\underscorecatcode

  ? make[1]: *** [build] Terminated
  make[2]: *** [latex_mtx] Terminated
- userv
  debiandoc2ps: ERROR: output could not be generated properly
- lcdf-typetools
  Unmet build dependencies: libkpathsea-dev (= 2.0.2-4)
- libkpathsea-perl
  Unmet build dependencies: libkpathsea-dev (= 2.0-1)





Those just gave warnings:
- am-utils
  ** Unknown command
  *** Unknown node in menu entry `FSinfo host netif:' (l. 5664)
- blitz++: Doesn't seem to make any documentation at all?
- cameleon  
  Warning: Could not find program file: xxdate.exe
  manual.html:1130: Warning, cannot find anchor: pluginchat
- cfitsio
  ./quick.tex:2: Warning: Cannot open file: html.sty
  ./quick.tex:3: Warning: Command not found: \htmladdtonavigation
  [...]
- dvipdfmx: does not make it's documentation?
- ecartis
  ! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{page.1}) 
has been already used, duplicate ignored
  to be read again
   \penalty
- ecasound2.2:
  ./eci_doc.latex:15: Warning: File \jobname.htoc not found
- freefem:
  ./freefem.tex:23: Warning: Command not found: \PassOptionsToPackage
  ./freefem.tex:46: Warning: keyval, uknown key: ``gobble''
  ./freefem.tex:46: Warning: keyval, uknown key: ``numbers''
  [...]
- freefem3d:
  Package hyperref Warning: Token not allowed in a PDFDocEncoded string,
  (hyperref)removing `\special' on input line 1.
  [...]
  dvips: Unknown keyword (PUSH) in \special will be ignored
  dvips: Unknown keyword (RED) in \special will be ignored
  dvips: Could not find figure file COLOR; continuing
  [...]
- freetype1: Does not generate documentation?
- gap-ctbllib:
  Lots of messages like:
  Reference `CTblLib' undefined.
- gnucap:
  Warning: Could not find program file: xxdate.exe
  ./gnucap-man.tex:47: Warning: File \jobname.htoc not found


Some have the combination of:
  ** menu entry without previous node: License (l. 98)
  ** node_prev `Top' for `License' not found
  ** `Distrib' doesn't appear in menus
(am-utils, esh, fdutils)

I did not have time to look at all those that appeared to have
been built succesful.



Can't be build currently (C++ transition, xorg-x11, ...)
- acl2
- axiom
- boot-floppies
- cmucl
- crystalspace
- darcs
- drift
- gmsh
- ion2
- kdegraphics
- lhs2tex
- maxima
- papaya
- evince


Have other problems building not related to tetex, and I'll file
bugs about those if they don't exist yet:
- bibtool
- clif
- flite
- gcl
- gclcvs
- jlint
- lilypond
- lyx
- pointless
- pspp
- saoimage
- sbcl
- sbm
- skribe
- transfig
- xconq
- xen
- xfree86
- xorg-x11
- tmview


Should I worry about messages like:
Underfull \hbox (badness 2368)
Overfull \hbox (21.3942pt too wide)
LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OMS/cmtt/m/n' undefined
LaTeX Warning: Reference `sec-cblash' on page 7 undefined on input line 452.
** `XXX' doesn't appear in menus:



This was the list of everything directly build depending on it,
and I'll do one with the indirect build dependencies soon.


Kurt


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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-08-07 Thread Frank Küster
Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 06:49:16PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
 Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I can try to build all those for you if you want, and I'll report
  those where I think that show problems.
 
 That would be great.  I think most of the problems will show up in
 failed builds, some might result in different filelists (pdf file
 generated instead of dvi file, but somehow the build does not fail), a
 small number might result in wrong fonts being used.

 I started with everything build depending on tetex-*.  Here is an
 overview of packages which might have problems.  Note that I have
 no clue what some of those message mean.

I have, in some cases.  Do you have build logs available somewhere? 

 Those really failed to build:
 - bison-1.35
   dvips bison.dvi -o bison.ps
   This is dvips(k) 5.95a Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software 
 (www.radicaleye.com)
   dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened.

This is most probably a buggy document (or stylefile) that has a wrong
test for pdf output, and produces pdf instead of dvi if the TeX engine
understands \pdfoutput, even if it has carefully been set to 0.

 - ctie
   Unmet build dependencies: libkpathsea-dev (= 2.0.2-1)

Errors like that are delibarate - the library has changed considerably,
and is now called libkpathsea4-dev in order to force maintainers to
really test their packages.

 - dvipdfmx: does not make it's documentation?
 - freetype1: Does not generate documentation?

This could point to the same pdf-instead-of-dvi problem, this time as
intermediate files, together with a broken build system that doesn't
notice that it failed...

 Some have the combination of:
   ** menu entry without previous node: License (l. 98)
   ** node_prev `Top' for `License' not found
   ** `Distrib' doesn't appear in menus
 (am-utils, esh, fdutils)

That's most probably just a bug in the texinfo sources, nothing that has
been triggered by the version change of teTeX.


 Should I worry about messages like:
 Underfull \hbox (badness 2368)
 Overfull \hbox (21.3942pt too wide)

Not at all - that's just a warning about bad line breaking, and for sure
not dependent on the version.

 LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OMS/cmtt/m/n' undefined

Most probably irrelevant and not version-dependent

 LaTeX Warning: Reference `sec-cblash' on page 7 undefined on input line 452.

Minor relevance and not version-dependent

 ** `XXX' doesn't appear in menus:

No idea, but I wouldn't bother too much.

 This was the list of everything directly build depending on it,
 and I'll do one with the indirect build dependencies soon.

Thank you for your great work!

Regards, Frank
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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-07-27 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:05:58PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
 * Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050726 15:04]:
  Remember, to compile tetex-bin in experimental, the build machine has to
  install tetex-base from experimental.  
 
 Oh yes. Bad. So, either you need to make sure it works on all machines,
 or I have to go onto all buildd chroots by hand (or I have to finally
 install Wouters patch :). All need some time. Ok, I'd say that I make
 sure after the final upload to experimental that it works on all archs.

Are you interested in sparc, mips and hppa builds? In that case, please
tell me, I'll build them on my machines.

Bye,
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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-07-27 Thread Aurelien Jarno

Frank Küster a écrit :

Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:05:58PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:


* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050726 15:04]:


Remember, to compile tetex-bin in experimental, the build machine has to
install tetex-base from experimental.  


Oh yes. Bad. So, either you need to make sure it works on all machines,
or I have to go onto all buildd chroots by hand (or I have to finally
install Wouters patch :). All need some time. Ok, I'd say that I make
sure after the final upload to experimental that it works on all archs.


Are you interested in sparc, mips and hppa builds? In that case, please
tell me, I'll build them on my machines.



That would be great.  Ideally, you'd take the latest versions from 


deb http://people.debian.org/~frank/teTeX-3.0 experimental main


I have build them successfully for sparc and mips. For hppa, I am 
waiting for a package part of the libgcc2 transition to finish to build 
before starting tetex-3.0.


Now that ftp-master is back online, are you planning to upload version 
3.0-5 to experimental? In that case, I'll upload my builds directly to 
experimental. In the contrary I'll put them somewhere on the web.


Bye,
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Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-07-26 Thread Frank Küster
Dear release team,

with the next upload (scheduled for today) of teTeX-3.0 to experimental,
I think we have only cosmetic issues left before we can upload it to
unstable.  Before doing this, however, I'd like to notify you, so that
you have a chance to yell out no!.  There are two problem areas where
tetex might interfere with other packages:

a) libkpathsea: It has a new soname, and I have not checked at all
   whether this causes problems in compiling other packages.  I do not
   expect, however, big problems with that because of two reasons: First
   of all, only a limited number of packages (and no libraries if you
   don't count the libkpathsea-perl perl module) with a limited scope on
   TeX depend on it.  Second, without looking it up, I assume that most
   or even all packages in Debian that depend on it are also part of
   TeX-live, where compilation and runtime problems should have revealed
   themselves.

b) More severely, tetex-bin is a build-dependency of many packages.
   While I think that our packages do not contain major bugs, I would be
   surprised if the upgrade did not reveal bugs in packages that use it,
   causing some to FTBFS.  We've had such cases a year ago when we
   changed internals of tetex-bin and found that certain packages messed
   with them during build or installation.

If nobody objects, I think we will be able to do an upload next week.

TIA, Frank
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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-07-26 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi Frank,

* Frank K?ster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050726 10:30]:
 with the next upload (scheduled for today) of teTeX-3.0 to experimental,
 I think we have only cosmetic issues left before we can upload it to
 unstable.

That sounds good, thanks.

 b) More severely, tetex-bin is a build-dependency of many packages.
While I think that our packages do not contain major bugs, I would be
surprised if the upgrade did not reveal bugs in packages that use it,
causing some to FTBFS.  We've had such cases a year ago when we
changed internals of tetex-bin and found that certain packages messed
with them during build or installation.

Currently, we have (at least) two large transitions at our hands:
1. gcc-4.0/glibc
2. xorg

I really would be happy if we can avoid that tetex becomes part of any
of these transitions. That means for me, in doubt don't upload tetex
to unstable right now.



Cheers,
Andi


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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-07-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
 b) More severely, tetex-bin is a build-dependency of many packages.
While I think that our packages do not contain major bugs, I would be
surprised if the upgrade did not reveal bugs in packages that use it,
causing some to FTBFS.  We've had such cases a year ago when we
changed internals of tetex-bin and found that certain packages messed
with them during build or installation.

Then can you please notify debian-devel of this before you upload?

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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-07-26 Thread Frank Küster
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That sounds good, thanks.

 b) More severely, tetex-bin is a build-dependency of many packages.
While I think that our packages do not contain major bugs, I would be
surprised if the upgrade did not reveal bugs in packages that use it,
causing some to FTBFS.  We've had such cases a year ago when we
changed internals of tetex-bin and found that certain packages messed
with them during build or installation.

 Currently, we have (at least) two large transitions at our hands:
 1. gcc-4.0/glibc
 2. xorg

 I really would be happy if we can avoid that tetex becomes part of any
 of these transitions. That means for me, in doubt don't upload tetex
 to unstable right now.

How long do you expect the transitions to take, and what would you think
is appropriate to replace doubt by knowlegde?  

The number of packages build-depending on tetex (directly or indirectly
via a build-dep on some conversion tool like debiandoc-sgml) is really
big, and we will not be able to check this all by hand.  Writing to
-devel and writing to the maintainers of those packages might help, but
we will probably not even be able to keep track of the responses and be
sure whether all maintainers of important packages have answered.

Regards, Frank
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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-07-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Frank K?ster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050726 12:34]:
 Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Currently, we have (at least) two large transitions at our hands:
  1. gcc-4.0/glibc
  2. xorg
 
  I really would be happy if we can avoid that tetex becomes part of any
  of these transitions. That means for me, in doubt don't upload tetex
  to unstable right now.
 
 How long do you expect the transitions to take, and what would you think
 is appropriate to replace doubt by knowlegde?  

What is appropriate for the second: Bring up ftp-master again :)

Well, xorg seems to depend only on some small issues. Without being able
to investigate further right now, we should be able to solve that in
less than a weeks time after ftp-master is available again - or at
least, we know much more. When that is done, I don't see a hard stopper
for uploading tetex to unstable, except of course you should notify the
maintainers again (e.g. via debian-devel).



Cheers,
Andi


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Re: Coordinating upload of teTeX-3.0 to unstable

2005-07-26 Thread Matthias Klose
Andreas Barth writes:
 * Frank K?ster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050726 12:34]:
  Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Currently, we have (at least) two large transitions at our hands:
   1. gcc-4.0/glibc
   2. xorg
  
   I really would be happy if we can avoid that tetex becomes part of any
   of these transitions. That means for me, in doubt don't upload tetex
   to unstable right now.
  
  How long do you expect the transitions to take, and what would you think
  is appropriate to replace doubt by knowlegde?  
 
 What is appropriate for the second: Bring up ftp-master again :)
 
 Well, xorg seems to depend only on some small issues. Without being able
 to investigate further right now, we should be able to solve that in
 less than a weeks time after ftp-master is available again - or at
 least, we know much more. When that is done, I don't see a hard stopper
 for uploading tetex to unstable, except of course you should notify the
 maintainers again (e.g. via debian-devel).

please make sure, that tetex-bin builds on all architectures.  avoid
having new arch-indep packages in unstable and unbuildable arch
packages.

  Matthias


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