Re: Debian Archive Signing Key

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Re: Debian Archive Signing Key to be changed

2009-06-10 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 04:01:17PM -0400, Ivan Jager wrote:
 It appears that
 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/Release.gpg is only
 being signed with the new key, not the old, so it is not trusted.
 
 Lenny security updates are being signed with both keys, but there
 does not seem to be a newer version of debian-archive-keyring
 there, so I'm not sure what the trust path from the old key the
 new is supposed to be. From the announcement, it sounded like the
 Release file was supposed to be signed with both keys, but it
 isn't.
 
 I initially tried the Monday after the announcement, and thought
 it would most likely get fixed after a few days, but still no
 luck.
 
 For reference, on lenny an apt-get update ends with the following
 error:
 W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
 9AA38DCD55BE302B
 W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny Release: The following 
 signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
 NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B
 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
 
 Of course if you then try to install the new
 debian-archive-keyring it gives you a big warning that it is
 untrusted.

Actually it shouldn't.  It's true that apt warns about a new signature
that cannot be verified, but that shouldn't cause apt to think that the
repository is untrusted, because there is still at least one trusted
signature on it (the offline release key).

So you should be able to upgrade debian-archive-keyring without a
warning...

Kind regards,
Philipp Kern
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Re: Debian Archive Signing Key to be changed

2009-06-10 Thread Ivan Jager
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:41:18AM +0200, Philipp Kern scribbled thusly:
 On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 04:01:17PM -0400, Ivan Jager wrote:
  It appears that
  http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/Release.gpg is only
  being signed with the new key, not the old, so it is not trusted.
  
  Lenny security updates are being signed with both keys, but there
  does not seem to be a newer version of debian-archive-keyring
  there, so I'm not sure what the trust path from the old key the
  new is supposed to be. From the announcement, it sounded like the
  Release file was supposed to be signed with both keys, but it
  isn't.
  
  I initially tried the Monday after the announcement, and thought
  it would most likely get fixed after a few days, but still no
  luck.
  
  For reference, on lenny an apt-get update ends with the following
  error:
  W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
  9AA38DCD55BE302B
  W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny Release: The following 
  signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
  NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B
  W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

FWI, if I only have security.d.o in sources.list I only get the
first and last warning, and it doesn't warn about unverified
packages when installing. With ftp.us.d.o I also get the second
warning and later it does complain when I try to install
packages.

  Of course if you then try to install the new
  debian-archive-keyring it gives you a big warning that it is
  untrusted.
 
 Actually it shouldn't.  It's true that apt warns about a new signature
 that cannot be verified, but that shouldn't cause apt to think that the
 repository is untrusted, because there is still at least one trusted
 signature on it (the offline release key).
 
Ok, something funny is definitely going on. Running gpg on
security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_Release.gpg shows both
signatures, whereas running gpg on
ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_lenny_Release.gpg warns that gpg:
WARNING: multiple signatures detected.  Only the first will be
checked. and of course that happens to be the 55BE302B
signature.

Anyways, I worked around the problem on that machine by copying
the keys from a squeeze box that I trust (which is why I have a
*_lenny_Release.gpg file now), but I can still reproduce the
problem on an etch machine, which I will most likely upgrade
after this is solved.

For reference, here is the output of GPG:
On lenny (with the keys copied from squeeze):
kestrel:/var/lib/apt/lists# gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --trustdb 
/etc/apt/trustdb.gpg security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_Release.gpg
Detached signature.
Please enter name of data file:
No such file, try again or hit enter to quit.
Please enter name of data file: security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_Release 
gpg: Signature made Tue 09 Jun 2009 03:29:57 PM EDT using RSA key ID 55BE302B
gpg: Good signature from Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) 
ftpmas...@debian.org
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: 150C 8614 919D 8446 E01E  83AF 9AA3 8DCD 55BE 302B
gpg: Signature made Tue 09 Jun 2009 03:29:57 PM EDT using DSA key ID 6070D3A1
gpg: Good signature from Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) 
ftpmas...@debian.org
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: A999 51DA F9BB 569B DB50  AD90 A70D AF53 6070 D3A1
kestrel:/var/lib/apt/lists# gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --trustdb 
/etc/apt/trustdb.gpg ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_lenny_Release.gpg
gpg: WARNING: multiple signatures detected.  Only the first will be checked.
Detached signature.
Please enter name of data file: ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_lenny_Release
gpg: Signature made Sat 23 May 2009 01:31:55 PM EDT using RSA key ID 55BE302B
gpg: Good signature from Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) 
ftpmas...@debian.org
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: 150C 8614 919D 8446 E01E  83AF 9AA3 8DCD 55BE 302B


And on etch without the new keys installed:
explorer:/var/lib/apt/lists# gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
Detached signature.
Please enter name of data file: security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_Release  
gpg: Signature made Tue 09 Jun 2009 03:29:56 PM EDT using RSA key ID 55BE302B
gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
gpg: Signature made Tue 09 Jun 2009 03:29:56 PM EDT using DSA key ID 6070D3A1
gpg: Good signature from Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) 
ftpmas...@debian.org
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to 

Re: Debian Archive Signing Key to be changed

2009-06-09 Thread Ivan Jager
Hi,

It appears that
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/Release.gpg is only
being signed with the new key, not the old, so it is not trusted.

Lenny security updates are being signed with both keys, but there
does not seem to be a newer version of debian-archive-keyring
there, so I'm not sure what the trust path from the old key the
new is supposed to be. From the announcement, it sounded like the
Release file was supposed to be signed with both keys, but it
isn't.

I initially tried the Monday after the announcement, and thought
it would most likely get fixed after a few days, but still no
luck.

For reference, on lenny an apt-get update ends with the following
error:
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
9AA38DCD55BE302B
W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny Release: The following signatures 
couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 
9AA38DCD55BE302B
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

Of course if you then try to install the new
debian-archive-keyring it gives you a big warning that it is
untrusted.

Anyways, sorry if I'm sending this to the wrong place, but I hope
you guys can fix it.

Thanks,
Ivan

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 08:15:11PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl scribbled 
thusly:
 
 The Debian Projecthttp://www.debian.org/
 Debian Archive Signing Key to be changedpr...@debian.org
 Mai 23rd, 2009  http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090523
 
 
 Debian Archive Signing Key to be changed
 
 The Debian Project wishes to announce the change of the GNU Privacy
 Guard key used to digitaly sign its archive reference files.  Signatures
 are used to ensure that packages installed by users are the very same
 originally distributed by Debian, and have not been exchanged or
 tempered with.
 
 Affected distributions are the Debian unstable branch (codenamed Sid)
 as well as the testing branch (codenamed Squeeze).  The current stable
 version Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 (codenamed Lenny) and the current
 oldstable version Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (codenamed Etch) will have
 their ftpmaster signature updated too. The release managers signature
 stays untouched.
 
 The currently used key will expire soon.  The new key has already been
 distributed via the debian-archive-keyring package.  For users of the
 current stable release Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 (codenamed Lenny) no
 action is required from the user side, since Debian GNU/Linux 5.0
 (codenamed Lenny) was already shipped with the new key.  Users of the
 current oldstable release Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (codenames Etch) should
 ensure to have upgraded to the lates point release 4.0r8 which added an
 upgraded package containing the new key.  Users of Debian's testing
 branch (codenamed Squeeze) and Debian's unstable branch (codenamed
 Sid) should ensure to have at least version 2009.01.31 of the
 debian-archive-keyring package installed.
 
 Starting with the next mirror update this evening and for the next three
 weeks the archive will be digitally signed by both the old and the new
 key.  Starting with the 13th of June only the new key will be used.
 
 
 For reference, the old key is
   pub   1024D/6070D3A1 2006-11-20 [expires: 2009-07-01]
   uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) 
 ftpmas...@debian.org
 
 and the new one
 
   pub   4096R/55BE302B 2009-01-27 [expires: 2012-12-31]
   uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) 
 ftpmas...@debian.org
 
 
 This key rollover is a normal maintainance task and was started in
 January.  For security reasons Debian's archive signing keys regularily
 expire after three years.
 
 
 About Debian
 
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 time and effort, collaborating via the Internet.  Their tasks include
 maintaining and updating Debian GNU/Linux which is a free distribution of the
 GNU/Linux operating system.  Debian's dedication to Free Software, its
 non-profit nature, and its open development model makes it unique among
 GNU/Linux distributions.
 
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