Re: Bug#490440: Change default syslog daemon to rsyslog in time for lenny
On 13/07/2008 Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:49:33AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:39:14AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > The discussion just raised again on -release. Joey got CCed in one or > > > two mails now. Pushing with the bug on the same day is too fast. Instead > > > I like the proposal to wait until Tuesday and then take action. > > > > He got Cc'ed earlier already. I just looked and discovered at least one > > mail from Apr 05 by Luk on d-release on which he Cc'ed him about this > > issue. I bet there are more, as there were multiple threads raising > > the switch already, both on -release and -devel. > > Even if, Tuesday would be perfectly fine, even if it were Tuesday a > week later. It's not _that_ urgend, the change just needs to be before > the freeze. Hey, Exactly that was my intention, to get it solved before freeze. I'm really sorry if I was to invasive or just to fast. greetings, jonas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#490440: Change default syslog daemon to rsyslog in time for lenny
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:49:33AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:39:14AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > The discussion just raised again on -release. Joey got CCed in one or > > two mails now. Pushing with the bug on the same day is too fast. Instead > > I like the proposal to wait until Tuesday and then take action. > > He got Cc'ed earlier already. I just looked and discovered at least one > mail from Apr 05 by Luk on d-release on which he Cc'ed him about this > issue. I bet there are more, as there were multiple threads raising > the switch already, both on -release and -devel. Even if, Tuesday would be perfectly fine, even if it were Tuesday a week later. It's not _that_ urgend, the change just needs to be before the freeze. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#490440: Change default syslog daemon to rsyslog in time for lenny
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:39:14AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > The discussion just raised again on -release. Joey got CCed in one or > two mails now. Pushing with the bug on the same day is too fast. Instead > I like the proposal to wait until Tuesday and then take action. He got Cc'ed earlier already. I just looked and discovered at least one mail from Apr 05 by Luk on d-release on which he Cc'ed him about this issue. I bet there are more, as there were multiple threads raising the switch already, both on -release and -devel. (Now of course those other threads probably weren't cited.) Kind regards, Philipp Kern -- .''`. Philipp Kern Debian Developer : :' : http://philkern.de Debian Release Assistant `. `' xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] `-finger pkern/[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#490440: Change default syslog daemon to rsyslog in time for lenny
On 11445 March 1977, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 12:56:11AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: >> On 12/07/2008 Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> > Those two links clearly say "Its better to not have force involved" and >> > let the maintainers agree on it. Why do you ignore that and try to force >> > it now, not giving the maintainers any time to act on this? >> Joey Schulze never contributed to the discussion at any time > Judging from the degree how good sysklogd is "maintained", if > sysklogd's Owner (I don't dare to say "maintainer" here for a reason) > needs to consent, we'll have sysklogd as default syslogd until hell > freezes over. The discussion just raised again on -release. Joey got CCed in one or two mails now. Pushing with the bug on the same day is too fast. Instead I like the proposal to wait until Tuesday and then take action. And no, I don't need Joeys OK to do such changes, I just dislike the speed that was used here. Depending on what I see (or not) on the lists/in this bug, I do the change on Tuesday. (I am in favor of it, even if i would have much preferred syslog-ng, but basically anything is better than sysklogd nowadays). -- bye, Joerg Aqua mach mal man brain maxx: schon probiert das gibts ned -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#490440: Change default syslog daemon to rsyslog in time for lenny
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 12:56:11AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: > On 12/07/2008 Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Those two links clearly say "Its better to not have force involved" and > > let the maintainers agree on it. Why do you ignore that and try to force > > it now, not giving the maintainers any time to act on this? > > Joey Schulze never contributed to the discussion at any time Judging from the degree how good sysklogd is "maintained", if sysklogd's Owner (I don't dare to say "maintainer" here for a reason) needs to consent, we'll have sysklogd as default syslogd until hell freezes over. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#490440: Change default syslog daemon to rsyslog in time for lenny
On 13/07/2008 Jonas Meurer wrote: > On 12/07/2008 Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > On 11444 March 1977, Jonas Meurer wrote: > > > > > At least one lenny release manager mentioned that he doesn't object > > > against the change and that it's not to late for lenny either yet > > > [7],[8]. > > > > Those two links clearly say "Its better to not have force involved" and > > let the maintainers agree on it. Why do you ignore that and try to force > > it now, not giving the maintainers any time to act on this? > > Joey Schulze never contributed to the discussion at any time, and > Michael Biebl stated several times that he is in favour of changing the > default syslog daemon to rsyslog. see for example [1] > > I just wanted to push the process as I feared that it might not happen > in time for lenny. Sorry if that ... appeared offending ... greetings, jonas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#490440: Change default syslog daemon to rsyslog in time for lenny
On 12/07/2008 Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11444 March 1977, Jonas Meurer wrote: > > > At least one lenny release manager mentioned that he doesn't object > > against the change and that it's not to late for lenny either yet > > [7],[8]. > > Those two links clearly say "Its better to not have force involved" and > let the maintainers agree on it. Why do you ignore that and try to force > it now, not giving the maintainers any time to act on this? Joey Schulze never contributed to the discussion at any time, and Michael Biebl stated several times that he is in favour of changing the default syslog daemon to rsyslog. see for example [1] I just wanted to push the process as I feared that it might not happen in time for lenny. Sorry if that greetings, jonas [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/01/msg01004.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#490440: Change default syslog daemon to rsyslog in time for lenny
On 11444 March 1977, Jonas Meurer wrote: > At least one lenny release manager mentioned that he doesn't object > against the change and that it's not to late for lenny either yet > [7],[8]. Those two links clearly say "Its better to not have force involved" and let the maintainers agree on it. Why do you ignore that and try to force it now, not giving the maintainers any time to act on this? -- bye, Joerg if klecker.d.o died, I swear to god, I'm going to migrate to gentoo. pgpchOfQSsNC5.pgp Description: PGP signature
