Re: Point release schedule

2011-09-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12594 March 1977, Philipp Kern wrote:
 so apparently September is a very bad month to get CDs done.  I'm hereby
 proposing the following with the hope that we can do it that way:

  * Lenny: October 1st
  * Squeeze: October 8th

 Can we do that, pretty please?  :)
 Any objections?

 I screwed up the initial mail because there were three recipients like on the
 checklist, but actually I do need four.  Can you comment on the above dates?
 We already got an OK from Sledge.

I could do both.

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Re: Point release schedule

2011-09-06 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi!

Am 04.09.2011 18:14, schrieb Philipp Kern:

 so apparently September is a very bad month to get CDs done.  I'm hereby
 proposing the following with the hope that we can do it that way:
 
  * Lenny: October 1st
  * Squeeze: October 8th
 
 Can we do that, pretty please?  :)

Yes, we can!

(I know, quite lite for that quite, but it fits so well for your question.)


Best regards,
  Alexander


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Re: Point release schedule

2011-09-05 Thread Daniel Baumann

On 09/04/2011 06:14 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:

so apparently September is a very bad month to get CDs done.  I'm hereby
proposing the following with the hope that we can do it that way:

  * Lenny: October 1st
  * Squeeze: October 8th


you forgot, once again, to cc d-live@l.d.o.


Can we do that, pretty please?  :)


works for mee too.

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Re: Point release schedule

2011-09-05 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 10:28:25AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
 On 09/04/2011 06:14 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
 so apparently September is a very bad month to get CDs done.  I'm hereby
 proposing the following with the hope that we can do it that way:
 
   * Lenny: October 1st
   * Squeeze: October 8th
 
 you forgot, once again, to cc d-live@l.d.o.
 
 Can we do that, pretty please?  :)
 
 works for mee too.

FSVO forgot.  I am following [0].

That said, we saw that discussed on #d-live for the 6.0.1 point release and you
basically said that point releases are a no brainer and started only once the
mirrors are updated.  Furthermore you said this is usually on the next day
anyway.

The notification about when the point release really is, is something we surely
send you.  The thing is that it's already hard to get the three teams together
as-is, and I don't want to add a fourth.  But please don't take this as an
offence, it's purely something whose scheduling gets massively harder if you
add another team that has mainly one guy that triggers the build (c.f. CD).

Kind regards,
Philipp Kern

[0] http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/PointReleaseCheckList
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Re: Point release schedule

2011-09-05 Thread Philipp Kern
Dear FTP masters,

On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 06:14:50PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
 so apparently September is a very bad month to get CDs done.  I'm hereby
 proposing the following with the hope that we can do it that way:
 
  * Lenny: October 1st
  * Squeeze: October 8th
 
 Can we do that, pretty please?  :)
 Any objections?

I screwed up the initial mail because there were three recipients like on the
checklist, but actually I do need four.  Can you comment on the above dates?
We already got an OK from Sledge.

Kind regards, thanks and sorry,
Philipp Kern
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Re: Point release schedule

2011-09-05 Thread Daniel Baumann

On 09/05/2011 11:25 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:

That said, we saw that discussed on #d-live for the 6.0.1 point release and you
basically said that point releases are a no brainer and started only once the
mirrors are updated.  Furthermore you said this is usually on the next day
anyway.


you concluded wrong then, i suggest you re-read the logs.

to reiterate: while it's not important for us at which exact day and 
time the point release happens (since we can only start building it once 
the mirrors already have it), we sure would like to know in advance the 
rough estimated date (hence the request to be CC'ed for *informational 
purpose*) so that we can make plans, e.g. for fixing things in lb stable 
branch like we always do.


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Re: Point release schedule

2011-09-05 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 11:32:31AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
 On 09/05/2011 11:25 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:
 That said, we saw that discussed on #d-live for the 6.0.1 point release and 
 you
 basically said that point releases are a no brainer and started only once the
 mirrors are updated.  Furthermore you said this is usually on the next day
 anyway.
 
 you concluded wrong then, i suggest you re-read the logs.

I did.

 to reiterate: while it's not important for us at which exact day and
 time the point release happens (since we can only start building it
 once the mirrors already have it), we sure would like to know in
 advance the rough estimated date (hence the request to be CC'ed for
 *informational purpose*) so that we can make plans, e.g. for fixing
 things in lb stable branch like we always do.

Then you didn't read the checklist, which says exactly that.

Kind regards,
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Re: Point release schedule

2011-09-05 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Philipp,

disclaimer: I've just read this thread, no logs  no checklist :-)

On Montag, 5. September 2011, Philipp Kern wrote:
 The notification about when the point release really is, is something we
 surely send you.  The thing is that it's already hard to get the three
 teams together as-is, and I don't want to add a fourth.  But please don't
 take this as an offence, it's purely something whose scheduling gets
 massively harder if you add another team that has mainly one guy that
 triggers the build (c.f. CD).

(as I read it) I believe the live-cd team might be happy to just be informed 
about the date planning, you don't really need to coordinate with them at that 
point.

Writing this, I'm thinking all these teams should have backups, so any 
date could be possible always, but I guess thats wishful thinking... ;)


cheers,
Holger


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Re: Point release schedule

2011-09-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 06:14:50PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
Hi,

so apparently September is a very bad month to get CDs done.  I'm hereby
proposing the following with the hope that we can do it that way:

 * Lenny: October 1st
 * Squeeze: October 8th

Can we do that, pretty please?  :)

Works for me :-)

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