Typo3 version number for wheezy

2012-11-09 Thread Christian Welzel

Hi there,
currently TYPO3 4.5.19+dfsg1-2 is in testing. A security bulletin
was published yesterday and i prepared a new version of the package.
I want to name it 4.5.19+dfsg1-2+wheezy1 because i hope this is the
version that goes into wheezy and want to communicate, that this is
not the vanilla upstream package.
Is this version ok for you?

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Re: Typo3 version number for wheezy

2012-11-09 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire

On 2012-11-09 10:47, Christian Welzel wrote:

currently TYPO3 4.5.19+dfsg1-2 is in testing. A security bulletin
was published yesterday and i prepared a new version of the package.
I want to name it 4.5.19+dfsg1-2+wheezy1 because i hope this is the
version that goes into wheezy and want to communicate, that this is
not the vanilla upstream package.
Is this version ok for you?


Unofficial NACK; the same version is in sid and wheezy, so the correct 
version is either 4.5.19+dfsg1-3 or 4.5.19+dfsg2-1, however you want to 
express best the modification, and targetting sid. Alternatively 
persuade upstream to make a proper minimal release with an incremented 
version.


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Re: Typo3 version number for wheezy

2012-11-09 Thread Christian Welzel

Am 09.11.2012 13:48, schrieb Jonathan Wiltshire:


currently TYPO3 4.5.19+dfsg1-2 is in testing. A security bulletin
was published yesterday and i prepared a new version of the package.
I want to name it 4.5.19+dfsg1-2+wheezy1 because i hope this is the
version that goes into wheezy and want to communicate, that this is
not the vanilla upstream package.
Is this version ok for you?


Unofficial NACK; the same version is in sid and wheezy, so the correct
version is either 4.5.19+dfsg1-3 or 4.5.19+dfsg2-1, however you want to
express best the modification, and targetting sid. Alternatively
persuade upstream to make a proper minimal release with an incremented
version.


The latest official release of TYPO3 4.5 branch is 4.5.21 which contains
other bugfixes too (4.5.20 was skipped because of the freeze). So when i
name it 4.5.19+dfsg1-3, it will enter wheezy by this version number, and
peoeple could think, it is a security buggy version. But this new
version contains the bugfixes backported from 4.5.21. And this is not
really expressed by 4.5.19+dfsg1-3.
After the freeze i can upload 4.5.21 or later to unstable and all will
be ok. I dont believe, that a complete new version 4.5.21 will get a
freeze exception, will it?


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Re: Typo3 version number for wheezy

2012-11-09 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire

On 2012-11-09 13:34, Christian Welzel wrote:

Am 09.11.2012 13:48, schrieb Jonathan Wiltshire:


currently TYPO3 4.5.19+dfsg1-2 is in testing. A security bulletin
was published yesterday and i prepared a new version of the 
package.

I want to name it 4.5.19+dfsg1-2+wheezy1 because i hope this is the
version that goes into wheezy and want to communicate, that this is
not the vanilla upstream package.
Is this version ok for you?


Unofficial NACK; the same version is in sid and wheezy, so the 
correct
version is either 4.5.19+dfsg1-3 or 4.5.19+dfsg2-1, however you want 
to

express best the modification, and targetting sid. Alternatively
persuade upstream to make a proper minimal release with an 
incremented

version.


The latest official release of TYPO3 4.5 branch is 4.5.21 which 
contains
other bugfixes too (4.5.20 was skipped because of the freeze). So 
when i
name it 4.5.19+dfsg1-3, it will enter wheezy by this version number, 
and

peoeple could think, it is a security buggy version. But this new
version contains the bugfixes backported from 4.5.21. And this is not
really expressed by 4.5.19+dfsg1-3.


I fail to see how '+wheezy1' communicates this any better. Release 
extensions are for squeezing versions in between suites. In either of 
these cases the user is still going to have to inspect the package to 
see what changed.


You could add a NEWS entry detailing it, but that's likely to be noise 
for the majority of users.


After the freeze i can upload 4.5.21 or later to unstable and all 
will

be ok. I dont believe, that a complete new version 4.5.21 will get a
freeze exception, will it?


Not unless it is purely RC-bug fixes, no.

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Re: Typo3 version number for wheezy

2012-11-09 Thread Christian Welzel

Am 09.11.2012 14:41, schrieb Jonathan Wiltshire:


You could add a NEWS entry detailing it, but that's likely to be noise
for the majority of users.


Is it ok to make the version of the package 4-5.19+dfsg1-3 and add
a -pl1 to the internal version number of the app which gets displayed
to the user? Then he can clearly see the updated version but the
debian version does not get messed up?

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Re: Typo3 version number for wheezy

2012-11-09 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:03:15PM +0100, Christian Welzel wrote:
 Am 09.11.2012 14:41, schrieb Jonathan Wiltshire:
 
 You could add a NEWS entry detailing it, but that's likely to be noise
 for the majority of users.
 
 Is it ok to make the version of the package 4-5.19+dfsg1-3 and add
 a -pl1 to the internal version number of the app which gets displayed
 to the user? Then he can clearly see the updated version but the
 debian version does not get messed up?

I can't see a problem with this approach.

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Re: Typo3 version number for wheezy

2012-11-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Christian,

(I owe you a private reply...)

On Freitag, 9. November 2012, Christian Welzel wrote:
 Is it ok to make the version of the package 4-5.19+dfsg1-3 and add
 a -pl1 to the internal version number of the app which gets displayed
 to the user? Then he can clearly see the updated version but the
 debian version does not get messed up?

if it has the security patches of 4.5.21 you could also make it -p4.5.21 (and 
not just -p11 or p21) to express this more clearly...! :)


cheers,
Holger



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