Re: freeze exception for jifty 0.80408-2

2008-09-12 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Luk Claes [Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:01:52 +0200]:

 Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
  On Sunday 24 August 2008 17:52, Luk Claes wrote:
  It would be a pity if jifty will not be in lenny while near 20 new
  needed dependencies were added for jifty and they will be almost useless
  without it.
  No, sorry, in general we don't include new packages into lenny at this
  stage.

  Would it make sense then to also keep those 20 dependencies out of lenny?

 If it are Depends ones, they won't get into lenny. If it are
 Build-Depends ones, we will check for them before the release.

I think they are 20 packages jifty depends on that nobody else needs,
and not 20 packages that need jifty.

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Re: freeze exception for jifty 0.80408-2

2008-08-24 Thread Luk Claes
Yves Agostini wrote:
 Dear release managers,
 
 Please consider giving a freeze exception for jifty 0.80408-2 to migrate
 to lenny. The upload contains a fix for a FTBFS bug[0]. 0.80408-1 was
 uploaded only on 29 Jul 2008 [1] and don't arrived in testing, so it's a
 new package.
 It would be a pity if jifty will not be in lenny while near 20 new
 needed dependencies were added for jifty and they will be almost useless
 without it.

No, sorry, in general we don't include new packages into lenny at this
stage.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: freeze exception for jifty 0.80408-2

2008-08-24 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sunday 24 August 2008 17:52, Luk Claes wrote:
  It would be a pity if jifty will not be in lenny while near 20 new
  needed dependencies were added for jifty and they will be almost useless
  without it.

 No, sorry, in general we don't include new packages into lenny at this
 stage.

Would it make sense then to also keep those 20 dependencies out of lenny?


Thijs


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Re: freeze exception for jifty 0.80408-2

2008-08-24 Thread Luk Claes
Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
 On Sunday 24 August 2008 17:52, Luk Claes wrote:
 It would be a pity if jifty will not be in lenny while near 20 new
 needed dependencies were added for jifty and they will be almost useless
 without it.
 No, sorry, in general we don't include new packages into lenny at this
 stage.
 
 Would it make sense then to also keep those 20 dependencies out of lenny?

If it are Depends ones, they won't get into lenny. If it are
Build-Depends ones, we will check for them before the release.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: Re: freeze exception for jifty 0.80408-2

2008-08-24 Thread Yves AGOSTINI

 Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
  On Sunday 24 August 2008 17:52, Luk Claes wrote:
  It would be a pity if jifty will not be in lenny while near 20 new
  needed dependencies were added for jifty and they will be almost useless
  without it.
  No, sorry, in general we don't include new packages into lenny at this
  stage.
  
  Would it make sense then to also keep those 20 dependencies out of lenny?
 
 If it are Depends ones, they won't get into lenny. If it are
 Build-Depends ones, we will check for them before the release.

there's 105 Build-Depends, maybe it will be faster to add just one package ;-)

The number of 20 useless dependencies is just estimate. Now I'm only sure that 
libjifty-dbi-perl and libtemplate-declare-perl are only used by jifty, but it 
takes 5 months to package all missing libraries with sometimes 3 or more 
missing levels, so it will be hard to be sure that removing some of them don't 
break a valid package. Do you have a method to find them? Maybe a starting 
point could be to use this list : http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (but 
it isn't concern only jifty)
However libjifty-dbi-perl and libtemplate-declare-perl will be used in catalyst 
project so maybe few people will be happy to find them in debian.

Cheers

Yves


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Re: freeze exception for jifty 0.80408-2

2008-08-24 Thread Vincent Danjean
Yves AGOSTINI wrote:
 Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
 On Sunday 24 August 2008 17:52, Luk Claes wrote:
 It would be a pity if jifty will not be in lenny while near 20 new
 needed dependencies were added for jifty and they will be almost useless
 without it.
 No, sorry, in general we don't include new packages into lenny at this
 stage.
 Would it make sense then to also keep those 20 dependencies out of lenny?
 If it are Depends ones, they won't get into lenny. If it are
 Build-Depends ones, we will check for them before the release.
 
 there's 105 Build-Depends, maybe it will be faster to add just one package ;-)
 
 The number of 20 useless dependencies is just estimate.

Are you sure you talk about the same things ?
packages whose jifty depends on / packages that depend on jifty ?

  Yves: I think it is better to keep the depends in any case: you will be
able to provide jifty with backports.org and all depends will be ready in
lenny... (I do the same thing for koha: nearly all depends are in lenny.
The last ones and koha itself will be available in backports.org as they
are not ready for lenny time)

  Regards,
Vincent

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freeze exception for jifty 0.80408-2

2008-08-18 Thread Yves Agostini
Dear release managers,

Please consider giving a freeze exception for jifty 0.80408-2 to migrate
to lenny. The upload contains a fix for a FTBFS bug[0]. 0.80408-1 was
uploaded only on 29 Jul 2008 [1] and don't arrived in testing, so it's a
new package.
It would be a pity if jifty will not be in lenny while near 20 new
needed dependencies were added for jifty and they will be almost useless
without it.

[0] http://bugs.debian.org/493439

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/479555

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