Re: libpng prognosis

2005-10-23 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:

> Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Mostly there's a long list of packages which need to go in ahead of
>> new libpng, which aren't ready.
> 
> Are zero-day NMUs appropriate for any of these:
> 
>> * penguin-command needs a new upload with fixed build-depends (bug
>> 303705,
>>   which justifies removal of the version in testing if necessary)
>> * printbill likewise (bug 328333)
>> * tuxpuck likewise (bug 328335)
>> * xnecview likewise (bug 328334)
Well, printbill and penguin-command have very recently elevated severities
(as in, an hour ago), so maybe the maintainers should be given a day or
two.  Zero-day NMUs certainly seem appropriate for tuxpuck and xnecview.

>> * libgtk-perl has to go in ahead of libpng (or be removed), but it
>> depends
>>   on new perl and new imlib, and so on the whole gnome 1 tangle. 
>>   Meaning,
>>   GNOME 1 tangle in before lipng in.  ;-)
> 
> The gnome-1 tangle is the png tangle.

Well, we've done a little detangling by avoiding the libpng shlibs bump; the
hope was to put the things 'broken by' new libpng through *before* new
libpng rather than having to do it simultaneously -- hence my describing
them as different tangles, even though they have the same original cause.

> But why does the new libpng 
> fail with the old libgtk-perl?
The old libgtkxmhtml-perl depended on libpng10-0 directly, and libpng10-0
goes away when new libpng gets in.

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Re: libpng prognosis

2005-10-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 12:15:08AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > Mostly there's a long list of packages which need to go in ahead of
> > new libpng, which aren't ready.

> Are zero-day NMUs appropriate for any of these:

> > * penguin-command needs a new upload with fixed build-depends (bug 303705,
> >   which justifies removal of the version in testing if necessary)
> > * printbill likewise (bug 328333)
> > * tuxpuck likewise (bug 328335)
> > * xnecview likewise (bug 328334)

NMUs are warranted for any of them; please use the delayed queues when
uploading, pending resolution of our discussion on debian-devel of what an
appropriate NMU policy should look like for etch.

> > * libgtk-perl has to go in ahead of libpng (or be removed), but it depends
> >   on new perl and new imlib, and so on the whole gnome 1 tangle.  Meaning,
> >   GNOME 1 tangle in before lipng in.  ;-)

> The gnome-1 tangle is the png tangle.  But why does the new libpng
> fail with the old libgtk-perl?  

libgtk-perl builds a package which depends on the old libpng, so libpng
can't be updated until libgtk-perl is updated first.

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Re: libpng prognosis

2005-10-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Mostly there's a long list of packages which need to go in ahead of
> new libpng, which aren't ready.

Are zero-day NMUs appropriate for any of these:

> * penguin-command needs a new upload with fixed build-depends (bug 303705,
>   which justifies removal of the version in testing if necessary)
> * printbill likewise (bug 328333)
> * tuxpuck likewise (bug 328335)
> * xnecview likewise (bug 328334)


> * libgtk-perl has to go in ahead of libpng (or be removed), but it depends
>   on new perl and new imlib, and so on the whole gnome 1 tangle.  Meaning,
>   GNOME 1 tangle in before lipng in.  ;-)

The gnome-1 tangle is the png tangle.  But why does the new libpng
fail with the old libgtk-perl?  


Thomas


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libpng prognosis

2005-10-22 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Mostly there's a long list of packages which need to go in ahead of
new libpng, which aren't ready.

* dillo needs a binNMU on sparc; then it can go in.

* The ARM buildd (grieg) needs to get rid of the old libpng12-dev,
  and then gif2png needs a binNMU on ARM (alternatively, a hand-built binNMU
  would work)
* gif2png needs an 'urgent' hint
  -- after those two, it can go in

* penguin-command needs a new upload with fixed build-depends (bug 303705,
  which justifies removal of the version in testing if necessary)

* zvbi needs a sourceful binNMU for sparc, or a new upload (it's small, so
  maybe a new upload is reasonable, but make sure grieg is fixed first so
  ARM won't need a binNMU)

* matanza should be removed from testing (#328352, #335274) and probably
  even from unstable (given the copyright issues in #335274).

  Actually, all of the "maintainer"'s other packages, shc, should be
  removed from unstable for copyright reasons as well (#335278, and the
  same totally-wrong-copyright bug applies to bandersnatch -- I just
  filed it, and #332610).

  (How did this guy become a DD?  He can't possibly have passed Policy &
  Procedures or Tasks & Skills.)

* pgplot5 (non-free) needs an upload to build against libpng12-dev (328345)
* printbill likewise (bug 328333)
* tuxpuck likewise (bug 328335)
* xnecview likewise (bug 328334)

* libgtk-perl has to go in ahead of libpng (or be removed), but it depends
  on new perl and new imlib, and so on the whole gnome 1 tangle.  Meaning,
  GNOME 1 tangle in before lipng in.  ;-)

* if rapidsvn and pysvn are removed, or subversion gets in,
  wxwindows should go in.

* That's the lot.  Everything else broken by new libpng depends on wxwindows
  or dillo.



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