Re: toulbar2: What will happen if testing migration takes longer than removal from testing

2019-02-19 Thread Thomas Schiex
> Hi Thomas,
>> Dear Andreas,
>>
>> Thanks for taking care of toulbar2. I did spend some time to try to go
>> around this #920459 bug but even a postprocessing of the LaTeX output of
>> doxygen (removing inclusion of the xcolor package that generates the
>> LaTeX compilation issue) did not work (another bug popped up, that was
>> apparently already met by other people using doxygen using the same
>> TexLive update but I found no workaround).
> I think doxygen is severly broken and just skipping refman.pdf (finally
> users can read other format) the only safe solution to keep the package
> in.  I added several FIXMEs to get it back for Buster+1.
My current (partial) understanding is that TexLive/LaTeX is broken (not
doxygen): TeXlive provides the tabu LaTeX package
(https://ctan.org/pkg/tabu) that doxygen uses but this tabu package does
not work anymore in TeXlive (not only for doxygen, but for all tabu
users). See #920621/#921272 saying that "upstream is working on it".
Probably this will not be fast as the README.md of tabu on CTAN says:

The original author of tabu appears out of contact, and tabu had not
been updated for several years, finally becoming unusable in 2019 as
updates to other packages mean some of its patched code did not work
as intended.

The package is not being actively maintained however any major
required fixes may be reported to the
https://github.com/tabu-fixed/tabu repository and volunteers there
(currently members of the LATEX3 Team) will attempt to update the
package with any fixes required.

Getting rid of the PDF output as you suggest for eg. HTML is probably best.

Thomas





Re: toulbar2: What will happen if testing migration takes longer than removal from testing

2019-02-19 Thread Thomas Schiex
Sorry, missed the Reply-All as Andreas pointed out. See attached mail.

Thomas



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Hi Thomas,

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:15:13AM +0100, Thomas Schiex wrote:
> Dear Andreas,
> 
> Thanks for taking care of toulbar2. I did spend some time to try to go
> around this #920459 bug but even a postprocessing of the LaTeX output of
> doxygen (removing inclusion of the xcolor package that generates the
> LaTeX compilation issue) did not work (another bug popped up, that was
> apparently already met by other people using doxygen using the same
> TexLive update but I found no workaround).

I think doxygen is severly broken and just skipping refman.pdf (finally
users can read other format) the only safe solution to keep the package
in.  I added several FIXMEs to get it back for Buster+1.
 
> If there is anything I can do, please do not hesitate to ask for
> support. I'm not sure I'll be able to quickly allocate time, but I at
> least I would be happy to try.

I do not think that there is anything to do now but hoping that the
package will be kicked for no good reason.

Kind regards

   Andreas.

PS: Its better to write in public - at least CCing the bug would
have made sense.  Feel free to quote me.
 
> Le 19/02/2019 à 08:46, Andreas Tille a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > toulbar2 is
> >
> >Marked for autoremoval on 22 February: #916715
> >
> > However, this bug was closed in
> >
> >
> > toulbar2 (1.0.0+dfsg3-1.1) unstable; urgency=medium
> >
> >   * Non-maintainer upload.
> >   * Add the missing build dependency on zlib1g-dev. (Closes: #916715)
> >
> >  -- Adrian Bunk   Fri, 11 Jan 2019 13:47:51 +0200
> >
> >
> > The problem is that the package did not migrated due to #920459 (doxygen
> > currently breaks lots of packages and I wonder in general what will
> > happen with those packages).  I now uploaded
> >
> >
> > toulbar2 (1.0.0+dfsg3-2) unstable; urgency=medium
> > ...
> >   * Prevent generation of PDF documentation since otherwise toulbar2 does
> > not build (see bug #920459).  This means should be reverted once doxygen
> > is fixed.
> > ...
> >  -- Andreas Tille   Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:17:10 +0100
> >
> >
> > Which enabled the build on all release architectures.
> >
> > I'm simply wondering what will happen with toulbar2 (and other packages
> > - I'm actually not that much involved in this, it is just a random
> > Debian Science package) once it was removed from testing.  As far as I
> > understood there will be no migrations from unstable to testing any more
> > if there is no version of that package in testing.  Does that mean that
> > the doxygen issues will kick several packages out of Buster or is there
> > any way to prevent this?
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Andreas.
> >
> 

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Re: toulbar2: What will happen if testing migration takes longer than removal from testing

2019-02-19 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:13:29AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 09:07:24AM +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> > I believe that it was the case before that if the autoremoval was due a 
> > specific RC bug, any activity on that specific bug would reset the timer 
> > for autoremoval.
> 
> I've thought the same but despite the activity it is not reset (at least
> not according to tracker[1] or the autoremovals query[2]).
>...

There are a few hours delay until the UDD autoremovals notice bug 
activity, and the rest is based on this information.

Check again in the evening, and you should see the autoremoval of 
toulbar2 in 15 days.

> Kind regards
> 
>Andreas.

cu
Adrian

-- 

   "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
   "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
   Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed



Re: toulbar2: What will happen if testing migration takes longer than removal from testing

2019-02-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 09:07:24AM +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> I believe that it was the case before that if the autoremoval was due a 
> specific RC bug, any activity on that specific bug would reset the timer for 
> autoremoval.

I've thought the same but despite the activity it is not reset (at least
not according to tracker[1] or the autoremovals query[2]).
 
> But it might have changed since… or my memory is failing me.

I think you are right but that has obviously changed (either due to
freeze or in general).

Kind regards

   Andreas.

[1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/toulbar2
[2] https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/autoremovals.cgi
 
> > On 19 Feb 2019, at 08:46, Andreas Tille  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > toulbar2 is
> > 
> >   Marked for autoremoval on 22 February: #916715
> > 
> > However, this bug was closed in
> > 
> > 
> > toulbar2 (1.0.0+dfsg3-1.1) unstable; urgency=medium
> > 
> >  * Non-maintainer upload.
> >  * Add the missing build dependency on zlib1g-dev. (Closes: #916715)
> > 
> > -- Adrian Bunk   Fri, 11 Jan 2019 13:47:51 +0200
> > 
> > 
> > The problem is that the package did not migrated due to #920459 (doxygen
> > currently breaks lots of packages and I wonder in general what will
> > happen with those packages).  I now uploaded
> > 
> > 
> > toulbar2 (1.0.0+dfsg3-2) unstable; urgency=medium
> > ...
> >  * Prevent generation of PDF documentation since otherwise toulbar2 does
> >not build (see bug #920459).  This means should be reverted once doxygen
> >is fixed.
> > ...
> > -- Andreas Tille   Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:17:10 +0100
> > 
> > 
> > Which enabled the build on all release architectures.
> > 
> > I'm simply wondering what will happen with toulbar2 (and other packages
> > - I'm actually not that much involved in this, it is just a random
> > Debian Science package) once it was removed from testing.  As far as I
> > understood there will be no migrations from unstable to testing any more
> > if there is no version of that package in testing.  Does that mean that
> > the doxygen issues will kick several packages out of Buster or is there
> > any way to prevent this?
> > 
> > Kind regards
> > 
> >Andreas.
> > 
> > -- 
> > http://fam-tille.de
> > 
> 
> 

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Re: toulbar2: What will happen if testing migration takes longer than removal from testing

2019-02-19 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi,

I believe that it was the case before that if the autoremoval was due a 
specific RC bug, any activity on that specific bug would reset the timer for 
autoremoval.

But it might have changed since… or my memory is failing me.

Cheers,
Ondrej

> On 19 Feb 2019, at 08:46, Andreas Tille  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> toulbar2 is
> 
>   Marked for autoremoval on 22 February: #916715
> 
> However, this bug was closed in
> 
> 
> toulbar2 (1.0.0+dfsg3-1.1) unstable; urgency=medium
> 
>  * Non-maintainer upload.
>  * Add the missing build dependency on zlib1g-dev. (Closes: #916715)
> 
> -- Adrian Bunk   Fri, 11 Jan 2019 13:47:51 +0200
> 
> 
> The problem is that the package did not migrated due to #920459 (doxygen
> currently breaks lots of packages and I wonder in general what will
> happen with those packages).  I now uploaded
> 
> 
> toulbar2 (1.0.0+dfsg3-2) unstable; urgency=medium
> ...
>  * Prevent generation of PDF documentation since otherwise toulbar2 does
>not build (see bug #920459).  This means should be reverted once doxygen
>is fixed.
> ...
> -- Andreas Tille   Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:17:10 +0100
> 
> 
> Which enabled the build on all release architectures.
> 
> I'm simply wondering what will happen with toulbar2 (and other packages
> - I'm actually not that much involved in this, it is just a random
> Debian Science package) once it was removed from testing.  As far as I
> understood there will be no migrations from unstable to testing any more
> if there is no version of that package in testing.  Does that mean that
> the doxygen issues will kick several packages out of Buster or is there
> any way to prevent this?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
>Andreas.
> 
> -- 
> http://fam-tille.de
> 



toulbar2: What will happen if testing migration takes longer than removal from testing

2019-02-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

toulbar2 is

   Marked for autoremoval on 22 February: #916715

However, this bug was closed in


toulbar2 (1.0.0+dfsg3-1.1) unstable; urgency=medium

  * Non-maintainer upload.
  * Add the missing build dependency on zlib1g-dev. (Closes: #916715)

 -- Adrian Bunk   Fri, 11 Jan 2019 13:47:51 +0200


The problem is that the package did not migrated due to #920459 (doxygen
currently breaks lots of packages and I wonder in general what will
happen with those packages).  I now uploaded


toulbar2 (1.0.0+dfsg3-2) unstable; urgency=medium
...
  * Prevent generation of PDF documentation since otherwise toulbar2 does
not build (see bug #920459).  This means should be reverted once doxygen
is fixed.
...
 -- Andreas Tille   Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:17:10 +0100


Which enabled the build on all release architectures.

I'm simply wondering what will happen with toulbar2 (and other packages
- I'm actually not that much involved in this, it is just a random
Debian Science package) once it was removed from testing.  As far as I
understood there will be no migrations from unstable to testing any more
if there is no version of that package in testing.  Does that mean that
the doxygen issues will kick several packages out of Buster or is there
any way to prevent this?

Kind regards

Andreas.

-- 
http://fam-tille.de