Bug#685248: unblock boinc/7.0.34+dfsg-2

2013-01-20 Thread Jonathan Nieder
(resending to BTS with Steffen's permission)
Steffen Möller wrote

 7.0.27 does the job.
[... lots of interesting details snipped ...]
 Since the package does something good to the world at large, I do
 not want any such removal again,
[...]
 On http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php you see the latest version
 that upstream suggests to be installed. My pledge would be to go for
 that version for the next release. That is 7.0.28 ( = Wheezy +
 0.0.1) at the moment.

The diffstat from 7.0.27 to 7.0.28 is

  69 files changed, 442 insertions(+), 238 deletions(-)

Excluding boinc-manager, it is

  59 files changed, 217 insertions(+), 165 deletions(-)

which is approaching a more reviewable size.  Extracting the bugfixes
still seems simpler, but if all unimportant changes are unrisky it
might be possible to sell the release team on just using the updated
upstream version.  (Disclaimer: I haven't reviewed the diff for
myself.)

Steffen also wrote:

 please ask the release team to allow the next upstream-declared
 suggested version in.

Presumably meaning 7.0.4x or 7.1.0.  I fear that will be too large of
a change.

Thanks,
Jonathan


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Bug#685248: unblock boinc/7.0.34+dfsg-2

2013-01-19 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi Steffen,

Steffen Möller wrote:

 I have mentally given up on Wheezy and BOINC.

That's unfortunate to hear.  What is your advice for the release team?
Is the version currently in wheezy appropriate for release, should it
be removed, or are there some fixes missing that would make it
appropriate?

Thanks for your help,
Jonathan


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Bug#685248: unblock boinc/7.0.34+dfsg-2

2013-01-02 Thread Jonathan Nieder
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Hi,

Guo Yixuan wrote:

   we
 still hope to have an update for boinc.

Could you describe what such an update would look like (and attach a
debdiff)?  The current diff between testing and experimental is

  242 files changed, 14119 insertions(+), 10822 deletions(-)

which seems a little large for this stage in the release cycle.  More
targetted fixes for serious bugs could be appropriate if they exist.

Thanks and hope that helps,
Jonathan


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Re: unblock boinc/7.0.34+dfsg-2

2012-10-11 Thread Guo Yixuan
Control: retitle -1 unblock boinc/7.0.36+dfsg-1

On 10/11/2012 04:41 AM, Steffen Möller wrote:
 Hello Julien,
 
 thank you for your reply.
 
  Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:16:56 +0200
 Von: Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org
 
 On Sat, Sep  1, 2012 at 21:09:28 +0800, Guo Yixuan wrote:

 Hi,

 Is there any progress for this unblock request?

 boinc is in NEW, and we've responded to FTP Masters' (Luca and
 Ansgar) request by doing some fixes, updating boinc to 7.0.34+dfsg-2
 which conforms to FTP Masters' requirement. Now we (FTP Masters and
 BOINC team) are waiting for you comment on our unblock request.

 As the package isn't in testing I don't think ftpmaster need to wait on
 us.
 
 boinc-app-seti is (sadly) not in testing, as you said. boinc instead
 is in testing - just in a somewhat oldish (7.0.27, 5 month ago) version
 now. We would very much like to update that. 7.0.3x is tested extensively
 in the Ubuntu community, which is sharing the git repository with us. 
 Quite some user-sensative bugs are fixed in that version.

Yes, even if boinc-app-seti doen't have much hope to get into wheezy, we
still hope to have an update for boinc.

 It just feels bad when the Debian folks are doing the packaging work 
 and the Ubuntu users profit from it, not even in unstable. And we cannot
 get it into backports either.

Cheers,

Guo Yixuan


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Processed: Re: unblock boinc/7.0.34+dfsg-2

2012-10-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands:

 retitle -1 unblock boinc/7.0.36+dfsg-1
Bug #685248 [release.debian.org] unblock: boinc/7.0.33-1 and 
boinc-app-seti/6.12~svn1385-1
Changed Bug title to 'unblock boinc/7.0.36+dfsg-1' from 'unblock: 
boinc/7.0.33-1 and boinc-app-seti/6.12~svn1385-1'

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Re: unblock boinc/7.0.34+dfsg-2 (was: Bug#685248: unblock: boinc/7.0.33-1 and boinc-app-seti/6.12~svn1385-1)

2012-10-10 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Sep  1, 2012 at 21:09:28 +0800, Guo Yixuan wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is there any progress for this unblock request?
 
 boinc is in NEW, and we've responded to FTP Masters' (Luca and
 Ansgar) request by doing some fixes, updating boinc to 7.0.34+dfsg-2
 which conforms to FTP Masters' requirement. Now we (FTP Masters and
 BOINC team) are waiting for you comment on our unblock request.
 
As the package isn't in testing I don't think ftpmaster need to wait on
us.

Cheers,
Julien


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Re: unblock boinc/7.0.34+dfsg-2 (was: Bug#685248: unblock: boinc/7.0.33-1 and boinc-app-seti/6.12~svn1385-1)

2012-10-10 Thread Steffen Möller
Hello Julien,

thank you for your reply.

 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:16:56 +0200
 Von: Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org

 On Sat, Sep  1, 2012 at 21:09:28 +0800, Guo Yixuan wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  Is there any progress for this unblock request?
  
  boinc is in NEW, and we've responded to FTP Masters' (Luca and
  Ansgar) request by doing some fixes, updating boinc to 7.0.34+dfsg-2
  which conforms to FTP Masters' requirement. Now we (FTP Masters and
  BOINC team) are waiting for you comment on our unblock request.
  
 As the package isn't in testing I don't think ftpmaster need to wait on
 us.

boinc-app-seti is (sadly) not in testing, as you said. boinc instead is in 
testing - just in a somewhat oldish (7.0.27, 5 month ago) version now. We would 
very much like to update that. 7.0.3x is tested extensively in the Ubuntu 
community, which is sharing the git repository with us. Quite some 
user-sensative bugs are fixed in that version.

It just feels bad when the Debian folks are doing the packaging work and the 
Ubuntu users profit from it, not even in unstable. And we cannot get it into 
backports either.

Many greetings

Steffen


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unblock boinc/7.0.34+dfsg-2 (was: Bug#685248: unblock: boinc/7.0.33-1 and boinc-app-seti/6.12~svn1385-1)

2012-09-01 Thread Guo Yixuan

Hi,

Is there any progress for this unblock request?

boinc is in NEW, and we've responded to FTP Masters' (Luca and Ansgar) 
request by doing some fixes, updating boinc to 7.0.34+dfsg-2 which 
conforms to FTP Masters' requirement. Now we (FTP Masters and BOINC 
team) are waiting for you comment on our unblock request.


unblock boinc/7.0.34+dfsg-2

Cheers,

Guo Yixuan

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 03:27:08, Steffen Möller wrote:

Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: unblock

Please unblock package boinc and boinc-app-seti

Right. Why do I want the two packages to be in unstable. Hm. Firstly,
I think the two belong together. The BOINC Debian packages allow everyone
to inspect what they run on their machines contacting external servers.
And the same for those otherwise uninspectable apps from third parties.
Boinc-app-seti is the boinc application with far the widest distribution
across platforms. The packages are iconic for what Debian can achieve
for platform compatibility.

The previous (nicely working) version of SETI was removed when BOINC
was removed because MySQL had been removed (the dependency to it has
now been removed together with the boinc-server-maker binary package)
and the fglrx was not in Wheezy (dependency removed together with the
boinc-ati-opencl package). So, please allow SETI back in. It was removed
albeit being innocent in the first place. We were nice to the package in
the meantime, kept the orig.tar.gz.  We now also gave it the opportunity
to link against the shared library that the boinc-client kindly provides.
With BOINC back in, and me having my key back in the keyring, we saw
builds on PowerPC to fail because of altivec being detected but no
underlying library to support it being available. New upload needed -
this one. The PowerPC issues came together with upstream saying they had
issues with the home-built SETI clients, which has now been resolved
again. We then thought that together with the fix for the PowerPC we
should go for the only slightly changed upstream version.

Kibi was kindly allowing BOINC 7.0.27 in, which had ben stalled in
unstable, also because of the PowerPC platform albeit for a very different
reason, long before the freeze. With much hooray this transition was
announced to our Ubuntu downstreamers who were already using 7.0.33 (from
our git repository ! ) actively in their PPA and they are happy with it.
They wanted to keep all those latest changes that upstream has addressed in
..28-.33 and would not want to go back to .27. Saying it would have fixed
many of the issues their Ubuntu early adopters have found.

boinc took a dive on popcon
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=boinc
when the package was removed from testing. This was very sad to
see. 7.0.27 gave it just a small kick back .. wishfully interpreting
the graph .. That version gave some serious bit of compatibility for
GPU computing that .24 did not yet have. 7.0.33 is especially good for
many smallish bit with the user interface, so the Ubuntu folks, which
is rather detectable for the regular user.  7.0.27 does not yet
provide the libboinc-app which the scientific apps like SETI link
against. Previous versions of the scientific apps, like the ones that
one would receive through the boinc-client from the respective external
project server, were all linked statically. I had considerably disliked
that static linking for a long time and am very happy to know this now
gone. Please let this development swap over to Wheezy.

The more ambitious boinc-server-maker we finally came to accept that
it is not up to the standard for being part of the stable release.
We'll continue maintaining that for experimental and hope for some
success stories on those for Wheezy+1.

Cheers,

Steffen

unblock boinc/7.0.33-1
unblock boinc-app-seti/6.12~svn1385-1



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