Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-02-23 Пенетрантность Serge Olkhowik
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:50:41 +0800
 John Darrington (John) wrote:

 John>  So let's check whether you see these fonts?
 John>  try to run xfontsel and select, say, such font:
 John>  -bitstream-bitstream vera sans 
mono-medium-r-*-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1

 John> I don't have the andale one, but I selected the Bitstream Vera Sans
 John> Mono font .  Unfortunately my UTF-8 encoded russian text still
 John> displays as boxes.

No-no!

I tried for example the following:

* created some utf-8 test file with gvim
* started unicode xterm

  like uxterm -fn '-bitstream-bitstream vera sans 
mono-medium-r-*-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1'

* and tried to view the result

  cat test-utf8

but I sow squares only :(

So may be there is something wrong with that terminals?

When I used gnome-terminal and selected in menu

Terminal -> Use coding -> UTF-8

and all is ok!

So please describe how do you check the coding?

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Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-02-12 Пенетрантность John Darrington
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:18:28AM +0200, Serge Olkhowik wrote:
 And what is the contents of
 /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType? 


 Do you have Vera*.ttf files there?


bash-2.05a$ ls /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
encodings.dir  fonts.scale  VeraIt.ttfVeraMoIt.ttf  VeraSe.ttf
fonts.aliasVeraBd.ttf   VeraMoBd.ttf  VeraMono.ttf  Vera.ttf
fonts.dir  VeraBI.ttf   VeraMoBI.ttf  VeraSeBd.ttf

 So let's check whether you see these fonts?
 
 try to run xfontsel and select, say, such font:
 
 -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-*-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1


Yes I can select that one (but it doesn't display any Russian glyphs).

 
 And next try to use gnome-terminal (uxterm works incorrectly :( ) and
 select 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono' font and try to view any unicode (you
 have UTF-8 locale?) russian text.
 
 I have msttcorefonts package installed, so when selecting any font like
 
 -*-andale mono-medium-r-*-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
 
 I can see russian glifs '?' in 3d line.
 
I don't have the andale one, but I selected the Bitstream Vera Sans
Mono font .  Unfortunately my UTF-8 encoded russian text still
displays as boxes.


J'

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Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-02-12 Пенетрантность Serge Olkhowik
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:49:55 +0800
 John Darrington (John) wrote:

 John> xset q gives:

 John> Font Path:
 John>   
/home/john/.gnome2/share/cursor-fonts,unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,/home/john/.gnome2/share/fonts

And what is the contents of /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType?
Do you have Vera*.ttf files there?

 John> This line wasn't there, so I added it and restarted X.
 John> Unfortunately it made no difference.

So let's check whether you see these fonts?

try to run xfontsel and select, say, such font:

-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-*-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1

And next try to use gnome-terminal (uxterm works incorrectly :( ) and
select 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono' font and try to view any unicode (you
have UTF-8 locale?) russian text.

I have msttcorefonts package installed, so when selecting any font like

-*-andale mono-medium-r-*-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1

I can see russian glifs 'АБВГД' in 3d line.

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Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-02-11 Пенетрантность John Darrington
On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 01:41:04PM +0200, Serge Olkhowik wrote:


 John, I'm still not using UTF8 locale, so please try koi8-r?

I tried both.  Also I tried ISO-8859-5.  None of them worked.
 
  Andrei> As for font environment in general, the output of following
  Andrei> commands are useful:
 
  Andrei> xset q

  Andrei> (the part related to Font Path)
 
  Andrei> and (if according to the default, the 1st part of the path is like
  Andrei> unix:/7100), the "catalogue" field from /etc/X11/fs/config.

xset q gives:

Font Path:
  
/home/john/.gnome2/share/cursor-fonts,unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,/home/john/.gnome2/share/fonts

 Of course, I forgot to ask you to check font path! So please describe
 FontPath options from your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file here.
 
 Do you have defoma installed?

Yes.
 
 Ttf fonts are placed into separate place (not into /usr/lib/X11/fonts).
 
 For example, ttf-bistream-vera is installed into
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/, and with defoma I set
 FontPath in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to:
 
 Section "Files"
 FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
 
This line wasn't there, so I added it and restarted X.  Unfortunately
it made no difference.

J'



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Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-02-11 Пенетрантность Serge Olkhowik
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:04:30 +0300 (MSK)
 Andrei Demekhov (Andrei) wrote:

 >> LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8
 >> GDM_LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8

 Andrei> Hello. Maybe I have missed some earlier details, sorry if so.

 Andrei> relevance for the subject. Maybe you try to change the default
 Andrei> locale to ru_RU.KOI8-R. It seems easier and "more default" to

John, I'm still not using UTF8 locale, so please try koi8-r?

 Andrei> As for font environment in general, the output of following
 Andrei> commands are useful:

 Andrei> xset q

 Andrei> (the part related to Font Path)

 Andrei> and (if according to the default, the 1st part of the path is like
 Andrei> unix:/7100), the "catalogue" field from /etc/X11/fs/config.

Of course, I forgot to ask you to check font path! So please describe
FontPath options from your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file here.

Do you have defoma installed?

Ttf fonts are placed into separate place (not into /usr/lib/X11/fonts).

For example, ttf-bistream-vera is installed into
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/, and with defoma I set
FontPath in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to:

Section "Files"
FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"

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Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-02-10 Пенетрантность Andrei Demekhov
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, John Darrington wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:25:20PM +0200, Serge Olkhowik wrote:
>  Could you describe us all your environment and soft versions?
>
>  I'm using unstable and GTK-2 applications display me correct fonts.
>
> OK.  Here's the spec of my kernel, X version and all the environment
> variables.   Is there anything else which you need to know ?
>
> Linux marilyn 2.4.22-1-686 #6 Sat Oct 4 14:09:08 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8
> GDM_LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8

Hello. Maybe I have missed some earlier details, sorry if so.

It seems only the two environment variables I left above MAY be of
relevance for the subject. Maybe you try to change the default locale to
ru_RU.KOI8-R. It seems easier and "more default" to set-up the language
environment for KOI8-R. It was painless for me to use just

set-language-env

(from the language-env package).

As for font environment in general, the output of following commands are
useful:

xset q

(the part related to Font Path)

and (if according to the default, the 1st part of the path is like
unix:/7100), the "catalogue" field from /etc/X11/fs/config.

Two more commands to obtain info useful for helping you are

dpkg -l|fgrep font|fgrep

and

dpkg -l|fgrep language-env

At last, did you try to launch an X term with manually specified font?

xterm -fn 10x20-cyrillic &

(this will use KOI8-r font).

Some sysadmins in this maillist do use UTF-8, and there was some
discussion of the subject here but I did not follow it. At last the
package list search does not immediately yield a package with UTF-8
Cyrillic fonts. So try setting up in KOI8-R first and explore UTF option
later on.

Good luck!

Andrei Demekhov
*
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Senior Scientist
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Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-02-09 Пенетрантность John Darrington
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:25:20PM +0200, Serge Olkhowik wrote:
 On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:30:46 +0800
  John Darrington (John) wrote:
 
  John> Can someone tell me how to get Russian fonts to be displayed in
  John> testing.
  
 I don't use GNOME so I can help you only by your descriptions.
 
 Could you describe us all your environment and soft versions?
 
 I'm using unstable and GTK-2 applications display me correct fonts.
 

OK.  Here's the spec of my kernel, X version and all the environment
variables.   Is there anything else which you need to know ?

Linux marilyn 2.4.22-1-686 #6 Sat Oct 4 14:09:08 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux

name of display::0.0
version number:11.0
vendor string:The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:4011
XFree86 version: 4.1.0.1
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:7
supported pixmap formats:
depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  window 0x1400010, revert to Parent
number of extensions:28
BIG-REQUESTS
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
Extended-Visual-Information
FontCache
GLX
LBX
MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
MIT-SHM
MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
RECORD
RENDER
SECURITY
SGI-GLX
SHAPE
SYNC
TOG-CUP
XC-APPGROUP
XC-MISC
XFree86-Bigfont
XFree86-DGA
XFree86-Misc
XFree86-VidModeExtension
XIE
XInputExtension
XKEYBOARD
XTEST
XVideo
default screen number:0
number of screens:1

screen #0:
  dimensions:1152x864 pixels (322x241 millimeters)
  resolution:91x91 dots per inch
  depths (7):24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
  root window id:0x31
  depth of root window:24 planes
  number of colormaps:minimum 1, maximum 1
  default colormap:0x20
  default number of colormap cells:256
  preallocated pixels:black 0, white 16777215
  options:backing-store NO, save-unders NO
  largest cursor:32x32
  current input event mask:0x5a20bd
KeyPressMask ButtonPressMask  ButtonReleaseMask
EnterWindowMask  LeaveWindowMask  PointerMotionHintMask
ButtonMotionMask StructureNotifyMask  SubstructureNotifyMask   
SubstructureRedirectMask PropertyChangeMask   
  number of visuals:4
  default visual id:  0x23
  visual:
visual id:0x23
class:TrueColor
depth:24 planes
available colormap entries:256 per subfield
red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff
significant bits in color specification:8 bits
  visual:
visual id:0x24
class:TrueColor
depth:24 planes
available colormap entries:256 per subfield
red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff
significant bits in color specification:8 bits
  visual:
visual id:0x25
class:DirectColor
depth:24 planes
available colormap entries:256 per subfield
red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff
significant bits in color specification:8 bits
  visual:
visual id:0x26
class:DirectColor
depth:24 planes
available colormap entries:256 per subfield
red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff
significant bits in color specification:8 bits

PWD=/home/john
XAUTHORITY=/home/john/.Xauthority
WINDOWID=20971536
GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/share/groff/1.17.2/font/
SESSION_MANAGER=local/marilyn:/tmp/.ICE-unix/787
GDMSESSION=Gnome
AEGIS_AUTOMOUNT_POINTS=/tmp_mnt:/a:/.automount
USER=john
MAIL=/var/mail/john
OLDPWD=/home/john
GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=Default
LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8
DISPLAY=:0.0
LOGNAME=john
SHLVL=1
SSH_AGENT_PID=815
GDM_LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8
USERNAME=john
SHELL=/bin/bash
HOME=/home/john
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-XXr71V5i/agent.787
TERM=xterm
PATH=/home/john/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
_=/usr/bin/env





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Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-02-09 Пенетрантность Serge Olkhowik
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:30:46 +0800
 John Darrington (John) wrote:

 John> Can someone tell me how to get Russian fonts to be displayed in
 John> testing.
 
 John> I've tried installing dozens of Cyrillic font packages, but Russian
 John> text always shows as boxes.
 
 John>  As I understand GNOME uses unicode ttf?
 
 John>  Please try installing ttf-bitstream-vera package. I don't know about
 John>  testing, but unstable (1.10-3) has russian glifs.

 John> I installed 1.10.3 but still see boxes.  Do I have to do anything
 John> else?

I don't use GNOME so I can help you only by your descriptions.

Could you describe us all your environment and soft versions?

I'm using unstable and GTK-2 applications display me correct fonts.

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Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-02-03 Пенетрантность John Darrington
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 09:04:12AM +0200, Serge Olkhowik wrote:
 On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:26:14 +0800
  John Darrington (John) wrote:
 
  John> Sorry for the English.
  John> Can someone tell me how to get Russian fonts to be displayed in
  John> testing.
 
  John> I've tried installing dozens of Cyrillic font packages, but Russian
  John> text always shows as boxes.
 
 As I understand GNOME uses unicode ttf?
 
 Please try installing ttf-bitstream-vera package. I don't know about
 testing, but unstable (1.10-3) has russian glifs.

I installed 1.10.3 but still see boxes.  Do I have to do anything
else?

J'


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Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-02-03 Пенетрантность Serge Olkhowik
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:26:14 +0800
 John Darrington (John) wrote:

 John> Sorry for the English.
 John> Can someone tell me how to get Russian fonts to be displayed in
 John> testing.

 John> I've tried installing dozens of Cyrillic font packages, but Russian
 John> text always shows as boxes.

As I understand GNOME uses unicode ttf?

Please try installing ttf-bitstream-vera package. I don't know about
testing, but unstable (1.10-3) has russian glifs.

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Re: Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-01-24 Пенетрантность Alexandra N. Kossovsky
Hello.

On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 11:26:14AM +0800, John Darrington wrote:
> Can someone tell me how to get Russian fonts to be displayed in
> testing.
> 
> I've tried installing dozens of Cyrillic font packages, but Russian
> text always shows as boxes.

Which GNOME programs do you use?
What locale settings do you have?
I think that fonts is not you real problem, the problem is in another
place.

Anyway, here is my fonts:
COLUMNS=200 dlocate -l '*font*' |awk '/^.i/{print $2}'
console-data
console-terminus
console-tools
defoma
dfontmgr
fontconfig
fonty-rg
fttools
gsfonts
gsfonts-x11
gucharmap
libconsole
libfontconfig1
libfreetype6
libfreetype6-dev
libxft2
mftrace
mplayer-fonts
msttcorefonts
pfaedit
psfontmgr
scalable-cyrfonts-tex
t1-cyrillic
t1-teams
t1-xfree86-nonfree
t1lib1
t1utils
trscripts
ttf-freefont
ttf-thryomanes
ttf-xfree86-nonfree
ttmkfdir
type1inst
x-ttcidfont-conf
xfonts-100dpi
xfonts-100dpi-transcoded
xfonts-75dpi
xfonts-75dpi-transcoded
xfonts-base
xfonts-base-transcoded
xfonts-bolkhov-75dpi
xfonts-bolkhov-cp1251-75dpi
xfonts-bolkhov-cp1251-misc
xfonts-bolkhov-koi8r-75dpi
xfonts-bolkhov-koi8r-misc
xfonts-bolkhov-misc
xfonts-cronyx-100dpi
xfonts-cronyx-75dpi
xfonts-cronyx-cp1251-100dpi
xfonts-cronyx-cp1251-75dpi
xfonts-cronyx-cp1251-misc
xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-100dpi
xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-75dpi
xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-misc
xfonts-cronyx-misc
xfonts-efont-unicode
xfonts-efont-unicode-ib
xfonts-intl-european
xfonts-konsole
xfonts-scalable
xfonts-terminus
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xfs-xtt


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Russian Fonts for Gnome

2004-01-23 Пенетрантность John Darrington
Sorry for the English.

Can someone tell me how to get Russian fonts to be displayed in
testing.

I've tried installing dozens of Cyrillic font packages, but Russian
text always shows as boxes.

Thanks.

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