Re: rogue Chinese crawler

2001-11-26 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder

## Howland, Curtis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Is there a drop from... command as well? I much prefer simply
 black-holing packets rather than giving back to the perp I'm here, but
 I know about you data by deny. Or is that what the Apache deny
 does?

Apache's Deny from gives an error 403 (HTTP Forbidden).

Regards,
cmt

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openssh version numbers...

2001-11-26 Thread Juha Jäykkä

  Ok. I have the good old open ssh 2.3.0-something. Now
http://openssh.org/security.html says it is not vulnerable to cookie
deletion or source based access control vulnerabilities (only
2.5.x-2.9.x, excluding 2.9.9, are). This is fine as long as I try to
get woody's open ssh, which is 2.9psomething. Where does this version
number fall in openssh's version numbering scheme? Between 2.8.(what
ever was the biggest number here) and 2.9.0 or where? The answer to
whether it is vulnerable or not might be enough but I am so confused
about open ssh's version numbers: why do they change the whole
_format_ of their version numbers??? 2.9 is lacking one minor version
specifier as compared to 2.9.9, which has two.
  TIA.

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Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread dennisk

Quoting Igor Mozetic [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 try http://RFC.net/
 
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Any graphic artist who has to layout text from someone who grew up using a 
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text. Rather than let the computer handle the formating they used spaces and 
tabs to center or indent lines just as you would on an old-fashion typewriter; 
the result being that the formating completely falls apart when you try to 
print to a different paper size.

You can see this by opening RFC822, for example, in StarOffice or Word and 
viewing the non-printing characters. Every space character used to center a 
line would have to be manually removed for the document to print well on 
another paper size.

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Re: is 3des secure??

2001-11-26 Thread Petro

On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 12:17:32PM +1100, Steve Smith wrote:
 3DES is generally considered strong enough.  However, it is slow, and
 can effect performance.  Try doing large 'scp's and switch between

DES/3DES was designed to be implemented in hardware, doing a
software-only implementation is going to be slow. 

 3DES and blowfish.
 Personally I prefer blowfish, as it has performance, is
 'secure-enough' to my (less-than-expert) eye, and frankly I doubt
 anybody capable of defeating it is interested in what I have to say.

Yup. 

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Using dsniff

2001-11-26 Thread Tommy Moore

Hi guys. Have installed dsniff on a machine on the network here at home 
running debian and I'm trying to figure out how it works.
Did get the url grabber and mail sniffer to work but can't seem to get the 
password capture program to work.
Tried fireing up the dsniff app and telnetted from the machine running the 
program to another machine running Red Hat 7.1 to see if I could capture 
the telnet setion but I got no output from dsniff.
If I use tcpdump I can see the packets comming over the wire but this 
doesn't show me the contents.
Anyone had a problem reading the traffic off the network with dsniff.
Am using the unstable distribution of debian.
Thanks.

Tommy



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PAM questions

2001-11-26 Thread Corey Halpin

  I'm just getting my nose into PAM, and I have a few questions.
  I am wondering which directives I need in what files.
  For example, is there some reason to have a password directive in the ssh 
file?
  Or should I just have password directives in the passwd and login files?
  Also, what permissions work for the pam files?  I'd like to make them 
root.root and mode 600, but I don't want to do that if it's going to bork my 
system.
  FYI, here are the files I have in /etc/pam.d:
chfn  cron   other   ppp ssh  sudo   xscreensaver
chsh  login  passwd  screen  su   vlock

thanks,
crh
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University of Wisconsin-Madison



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Remote Root Exploit in ice-cast server

2001-11-26 Thread Andrew Tait

From the changelog of the woody package:

icecast-server (1:1.3.8.beta2-5) unstable; urgency=high
  Closes: #83527
  * Security vulnerability http://lwn.net/2001/0125/a/sec-icecast.php3 fixed

Andrew Tait
System Administrator
Country NetLink Pty, Ltd
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.cnl.com.au
30 Bank St Cobram, VIC 3644, Australia
Ph: +61 (03) 58 711 000
Fax: +61 (03) 58 711 874

It's the smell! If there is such a thing. Agent Smith - The Matrix


- Original Message -
From: Jeremy C. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andrew Tait [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: Real Server


 On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Andrew Tait wrote:

  I just noticed that the stable icecast-server debian package has a major
  security problem!
 
  I have e-mailed the debain security list with more details.

 It appears you didn't start your own thread -- but replied to another
 debian-security posting. Hopefully, it is not missed/overlooked.

 In addition, your root exploit is not shown. How can anyone test or verify
 this?

   Jeremy C. Reed
 ...
  BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
  http://bsd.reedmedia.net/




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Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread Tommi Komulainen

On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 11:02:36AM +0100, Lambrecht, Joris wrote:
 
 I'm getting a stomach ache trying to figure out how best to print an RFC
 without having the impression i'm printing drafts of a draft. The formatting
 goes bananas when i try to print it on any known paper size (A4 Letter ...).
 Does there exist a website, a tool or a procedure to make rfc's printable in
 an adequate way ?

Hi,

I've used a simple script that strips all white space between the end of
the page and the start of the next space and inserts a page break there
instead.  Basically, that should modify the drafts so that they can be
properly printed on any paper size.  Though, I've only tested A4.

I'll attach my boosted script that also downloads the requested
rfc/draft and then reformats it as described above.  But beware, the
logic to determine the location of page break is extremely stupid.
Don't count on getting the rfc's intact :)

Oh, and mpage -2 works nicely for the printing part...


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GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533  09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6


#!/usr/bin/env python

SERVER,RFCDIR,DRAFTDIR = 'ftp.funet.fi','/rfc','/internet-drafts'

import sys
if len(sys.argv)  2:
sys.stderr.write(\
usage: rfc-get [rfc-number | draft-name] ...
)
sys.exit(1)

import ftplib,os

ftp = ftplib.FTP(SERVER)
ftp.set_pasv(1)
ftp.login()


import re
end_re =   re.compile(r'^\S+.+\[Page \d+]\s*$')
start_re = re.compile(r'^(Internet|RFC)\s.+$')

for arg in sys.argv[1:]:
if arg[:3] == 'rfc': arg = arg[3:]
elif arg[:6] == 'draft-': arg = arg[6:]
if arg[-4:] == '.txt': arg = arg[:-4]
try: 
arg = int(arg)
filename = 'rfc%d.txt' % arg
dir = RFCDIR
except ValueError:
filename = 'draft-%s.txt' % arg
dir = DRAFTDIR

print 'retrieving %s/%s' % (dir,filename)

ftp.cwd(dir)

printable = 1
file = open(filename, 'wt')

def printer(line):
global file,printable
if end_re.match(line):  
file.write(line + '\n')
file.write('\f\n')
printable = 0
elif start_re.match(line):
file.write(line + '\n')
printable = 1
elif printable:
file.write(line + '\n')

try:
try: ftp.retrlines('RETR ' + filename, printer)
finally: file.close()
except ftplib.error_perm, err:
print err
os.unlink(filename)


ftp.quit()




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Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread Martin WHEELER

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Lambrecht, Joris wrote:

 [ Please reply to all - this address is not subscribed to the list ]

 Does there exist a website, a tool or a procedure to make rfc's printable in
 an adequate way ?

Well, if it's all that big a problem for you, view it as a text
file under a suitable browser (e.g.Netscape); then print from there.
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Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread Lambrecht, Joris

:-)

Been there, done that, don't work. To bad. Thanks anyway. Why is it so hard
to find an RFC that fits page/page onto an A4 format, boehoe . . . I kind of
remember there was a website wich mirrored the rfc's in various formats
including pdf ... maybe that's the one that worked for me.

I don't feel much like manually inserting page-breaks to get a decent
print-out.

Regards,

Joris

[]-Original Message-
[]From: Martin WHEELER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[]Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 1:08 PM
[]To: Lambrecht, Joris
[]Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
[]Subject: Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize
[]
[]
[]On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Lambrecht, Joris wrote:
[]
[] [ Please reply to all - this address is not subscribed to the list ]
[]
[] Does there exist a website, a tool or a procedure to make 
[]rfc's printable in
[] an adequate way ?
[]
[]Well, if it's all that big a problem for you, view it as a text
[]file under a suitable browser (e.g.Netscape); then print from there.
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Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread Martin WHEELER

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Lambrecht, Joris wrote:

 Been there, done that, don't work.

Ok, I'm with you now.  Official ASCII RFCs only come pre-formatted to
a number of lines/page that suits both American Letter and A4.

 to find an RFC that fits page/page onto an A4 format, boehoe . . . I kind of
 remember there was a website wich mirrored the rfc's in various formats
 including pdf ... maybe that's the one that worked for me.

There is an unofficial RFC PDF site at:

 http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/RFC-PDF/

which serves up RFCs in PDF format, preserving the page-breaks of the
original text.  Was that the one?

HTH
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Re: is 3des secure??

2001-11-26 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:29:22PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote:
 
 On Saturday 24 November 2001 03:28 am, Johannes Weiss wrote:
  So, because of this my question is: Is 3des secure enough??
 
 The putty website (search for it on google) has something to say about 
 the security of des algorithm, which AFAIK it doesn't support.

It is important to distinguish between DES and 3DES.  DES, which
cryptographically secure (i.e. there is no known flaw in the algorithm)
uses too short a key to be considered secure.  3DES is a great deal more
secure.

I was not able to find references to the PuTTY author's opinion on the
security of DES or 3DES on his web site, but I do know that PuTTY does
support 3DES, if not DES.

Also, it is worth noting that if you use the standard unix crypt(3)
passwords, then you are using a variant of DES which has the addition of
the 16 bit salt.

noah

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Re: is 3des secure??

2001-11-26 Thread Warren Turkal
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 does support 3DES, if not DES.
I was thinking DSA, which putty does now also support. Sorry.
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Re: rogue Chinese crawler

2001-11-26 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Howland, Curtis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Is there a drop from... command as well? I much prefer simply
 black-holing packets rather than giving back to the perp I'm here, but
 I know about you data by deny. Or is that what the Apache deny
 does?

Apache's Deny from gives an error 403 (HTTP Forbidden).

Regards,
cmt

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Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread Lambrecht, Joris
[ Please reply to all - this address is not subscribed to the list ]

Hi,

A bit of an unusual question but ...

I'm getting a stomach ache trying to figure out how best to print an RFC
without having the impression i'm printing drafts of a draft. The formatting
goes bananas when i try to print it on any known paper size (A4 Letter ...).
Does there exist a website, a tool or a procedure to make rfc's printable in
an adequate way ?

Thank You,

Joris Lambrecht
- - -
Ebone NOC IP Operations
Operations : http://www.ebone.com/ebone.nsf/goto/6030



Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread Martin WHEELER
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Lambrecht, Joris wrote:

 [ Please reply to all - this address is not subscribed to the list ]

 Does there exist a website, a tool or a procedure to make rfc's printable in
 an adequate way ?

Well, if it's all that big a problem for you, view it as a text
file under a suitable browser (e.g.Netscape); then print from there.
--



Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread Lambrecht, Joris
:-)

Been there, done that, don't work. To bad. Thanks anyway. Why is it so hard
to find an RFC that fits page/page onto an A4 format, boehoe . . . I kind of
remember there was a website wich mirrored the rfc's in various formats
including pdf ... maybe that's the one that worked for me.

I don't feel much like manually inserting page-breaks to get a decent
print-out.

Regards,

Joris

[]-Original Message-
[]From: Martin WHEELER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[]Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 1:08 PM
[]To: Lambrecht, Joris
[]Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'; 'debian-security@lists.debian.org'
[]Subject: Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize
[]
[]
[]On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Lambrecht, Joris wrote:
[]
[] [ Please reply to all - this address is not subscribed to the list ]
[]
[] Does there exist a website, a tool or a procedure to make 
[]rfc's printable in
[] an adequate way ?
[]
[]Well, if it's all that big a problem for you, view it as a text
[]file under a suitable browser (e.g.Netscape); then print from there.
[]--
[]



Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread Igor Mozetic
try http://RFC.net/

-Igor Mozetic



Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread Martin WHEELER
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Lambrecht, Joris wrote:

 Been there, done that, don't work.

Ok, I'm with you now.  Official ASCII RFCs only come pre-formatted to
a number of lines/page that suits both American Letter and A4.

 to find an RFC that fits page/page onto an A4 format, boehoe . . . I kind of
 remember there was a website wich mirrored the rfc's in various formats
 including pdf ... maybe that's the one that worked for me.

There is an unofficial RFC PDF site at:

 http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/RFC-PDF/

which serves up RFCs in PDF format, preserving the page-breaks of the
original text.  Was that the one?

HTH
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openssh version numbers...

2001-11-26 Thread Juha Jäykkä
  Ok. I have the good old open ssh 2.3.0-something. Now
http://openssh.org/security.html says it is not vulnerable to cookie
deletion or source based access control vulnerabilities (only
2.5.x-2.9.x, excluding 2.9.9, are). This is fine as long as I try to
get woody's open ssh, which is 2.9psomething. Where does this version
number fall in openssh's version numbering scheme? Between 2.8.(what
ever was the biggest number here) and 2.9.0 or where? The answer to
whether it is vulnerable or not might be enough but I am so confused
about open ssh's version numbers: why do they change the whole
_format_ of their version numbers??? 2.9 is lacking one minor version
specifier as compared to 2.9.9, which has two.
  TIA.

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Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread dennisk
Quoting Igor Mozetic [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 try http://RFC.net/
 
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Any graphic artist who has to layout text from someone who grew up using a 
typewriter can tell you the problem. The formating has been hard coded in the 
text. Rather than let the computer handle the formating they used spaces and 
tabs to center or indent lines just as you would on an old-fashion typewriter; 
the result being that the formating completely falls apart when you try to 
print to a different paper size.

You can see this by opening RFC822, for example, in StarOffice or Word and 
viewing the non-printing characters. Every space character used to center a 
line would have to be manually removed for the document to print well on 
another paper size.

Dennis Kibbe
Sahuaro Computers



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Re: is 3des secure??

2001-11-26 Thread Petro
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 12:17:32PM +1100, Steve Smith wrote:
 3DES is generally considered strong enough.  However, it is slow, and
 can effect performance.  Try doing large 'scp's and switch between

DES/3DES was designed to be implemented in hardware, doing a
software-only implementation is going to be slow. 

 3DES and blowfish.
 Personally I prefer blowfish, as it has performance, is
 'secure-enough' to my (less-than-expert) eye, and frankly I doubt
 anybody capable of defeating it is interested in what I have to say.

Yup. 

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Re: Printing a RFC on non-US PAPERsize

2001-11-26 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 11:02:36AM +0100, Lambrecht, Joris wrote:
 
 I'm getting a stomach ache trying to figure out how best to print an RFC
 without having the impression i'm printing drafts of a draft. The formatting
 goes bananas when i try to print it on any known paper size (A4 Letter ...).
 Does there exist a website, a tool or a procedure to make rfc's printable in
 an adequate way ?

Hi,

I've used a simple script that strips all white space between the end of
the page and the start of the next space and inserts a page break there
instead.  Basically, that should modify the drafts so that they can be
properly printed on any paper size.  Though, I've only tested A4.

I'll attach my boosted script that also downloads the requested
rfc/draft and then reformats it as described above.  But beware, the
logic to determine the location of page break is extremely stupid.
Don't count on getting the rfc's intact :)

Oh, and mpage -2 works nicely for the printing part...


-- 
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GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533  09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6
#!/usr/bin/env python

SERVER,RFCDIR,DRAFTDIR = 'ftp.funet.fi','/rfc','/internet-drafts'

import sys
if len(sys.argv)  2:
sys.stderr.write(\
usage: rfc-get [rfc-number | draft-name] ...
)
sys.exit(1)

import ftplib,os

ftp = ftplib.FTP(SERVER)
ftp.set_pasv(1)
ftp.login()


import re
end_re =   re.compile(r'^\S+.+\[Page \d+]\s*$')
start_re = re.compile(r'^(Internet|RFC)\s.+$')

for arg in sys.argv[1:]:
if arg[:3] == 'rfc': arg = arg[3:]
elif arg[:6] == 'draft-': arg = arg[6:]
if arg[-4:] == '.txt': arg = arg[:-4]
try: 
arg = int(arg)
filename = 'rfc%d.txt' % arg
dir = RFCDIR
except ValueError:
filename = 'draft-%s.txt' % arg
dir = DRAFTDIR

print 'retrieving %s/%s' % (dir,filename)

ftp.cwd(dir)

printable = 1
file = open(filename, 'wt')

def printer(line):
global file,printable
if end_re.match(line):  
file.write(line + '\n')
file.write('\f\n')
printable = 0
elif start_re.match(line):
file.write(line + '\n')
printable = 1
elif printable:
file.write(line + '\n')

try:
try: ftp.retrlines('RETR ' + filename, printer)
finally: file.close()
except ftplib.error_perm, err:
print err
os.unlink(filename)


ftp.quit()



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Using dsniff

2001-11-26 Thread Tommy Moore
Hi guys. Have installed dsniff on a machine on the network here at home 
running debian and I'm trying to figure out how it works.
Did get the url grabber and mail sniffer to work but can't seem to get the 
password capture program to work.
Tried fireing up the dsniff app and telnetted from the machine running the 
program to another machine running Red Hat 7.1 to see if I could capture 
the telnet setion but I got no output from dsniff.
If I use tcpdump I can see the packets comming over the wire but this 
doesn't show me the contents.
Anyone had a problem reading the traffic off the network with dsniff.
Am using the unstable distribution of debian.
Thanks.

Tommy




PAM questions

2001-11-26 Thread Corey Halpin
  I'm just getting my nose into PAM, and I have a few questions.
  I am wondering which directives I need in what files.
  For example, is there some reason to have a password directive in the ssh 
file?
  Or should I just have password directives in the passwd and login files?
  Also, what permissions work for the pam files?  I'd like to make them 
root.root and mode 600, but I don't want to do that if it's going to bork my 
system.
  FYI, here are the files I have in /etc/pam.d:
chfn  cron   other   ppp ssh  sudo   xscreensaver
chsh  login  passwd  screen  su   vlock

thanks,
crh
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University of Wisconsin-Madison




Remote Root Exploit in ice-cast server

2001-11-26 Thread Andrew Tait
From the changelog of the woody package:

icecast-server (1:1.3.8.beta2-5) unstable; urgency=high
  Closes: #83527
  * Security vulnerability http://lwn.net/2001/0125/a/sec-icecast.php3 fixed

Andrew Tait
System Administrator
Country NetLink Pty, Ltd
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.cnl.com.au
30 Bank St Cobram, VIC 3644, Australia
Ph: +61 (03) 58 711 000
Fax: +61 (03) 58 711 874

It's the smell! If there is such a thing. Agent Smith - The Matrix


- Original Message -
From: Jeremy C. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andrew Tait [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: Real Server


 On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Andrew Tait wrote:

  I just noticed that the stable icecast-server debian package has a major
  security problem!
 
  I have e-mailed the debain security list with more details.

 It appears you didn't start your own thread -- but replied to another
 debian-security posting. Hopefully, it is not missed/overlooked.

 In addition, your root exploit is not shown. How can anyone test or verify
 this?

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