Re: Secure 2.4.x kernel
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:18:35AM +0300, Nyarlathotep wrote: > On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 03:22, Howland, Curtis wrote: > > Naa, it's simian posturing. It happens with humans everywhere. I > > enjoyed watching it in Good Will Hunting, and two days ago rented > > Finding Forrester (same movie, different actors), and sure enough > > lots of simian posturing. "You dare to challenge me in MY classroom?" etc. > Oh yes. The alpha chimp syndrome. Second-circuit through and through. No, more of "locking horns". > > I can suggest the writings of Jeff Cooper for a better exploration of the > > kinds of attitudes and processes that are now missing, and R.A.Heinlein for > > lots of fictional explorations of the issue. > May I humbly say anything by Tim Leary or Robert Anton Wilson you can > lay your hands on? Also the book "The War Against Boys", Christina Hoff Sommers, ISBN 0-684-84956-9. Relevance to security? Well, a lot of the "script kiddies", having been denied traditional means of "locking horns" turn to other means. -- Share and Enjoy.
Re: Secure 2.4.x kernel
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:18:35AM +0300, Nyarlathotep wrote: > On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 03:22, Howland, Curtis wrote: > > Naa, it's simian posturing. It happens with humans everywhere. I > > enjoyed watching it in Good Will Hunting, and two days ago rented > > Finding Forrester (same movie, different actors), and sure enough > > lots of simian posturing. "You dare to challenge me in MY classroom?" etc. > Oh yes. The alpha chimp syndrome. Second-circuit through and through. No, more of "locking horns". > > I can suggest the writings of Jeff Cooper for a better exploration of the > > kinds of attitudes and processes that are now missing, and R.A.Heinlein for > > lots of fictional explorations of the issue. > May I humbly say anything by Tim Leary or Robert Anton Wilson you can > lay your hands on? Also the book "The War Against Boys", Christina Hoff Sommers, ISBN 0-684-84956-9. Relevance to security? Well, a lot of the "script kiddies", having been denied traditional means of "locking horns" turn to other means. -- Share and Enjoy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Secure 2.4.x kernel
On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 03:22, Howland, Curtis wrote: > Naa, it's simian posturing. It happens with humans everywhere. I > enjoyed watching it in Good Will Hunting, and two days ago rented > Finding Forrester (same movie, different actors), and sure enough > lots of simian posturing. "You dare to challenge me in MY classroom?" etc. Oh yes. The alpha chimp syndrome. Second-circuit through and through. > The problem is cultural and social. We've moved away from the teaching > traditions that channeled such territoriality and aggression in constructive > ways. Hormone-addled male teens no longer get "whupped" into shape when they really need it. > > I can suggest the writings of Jeff Cooper for a better exploration of the > kinds of attitudes and processes that are now missing, and R.A.Heinlein for > lots of fictional explorations of the issue. May I humbly say anything by Tim Leary or Robert Anton Wilson you can lay your hands on? > There's some really nasty little flame freaks out there who simply do not > understand the repercussions of their words, and how they hurt people. There is nothing wrong in hurting people. Compassion may assume ruthless forms. However, feeding one's ego by means of "ultra-coolness" or the "poor underestimated me" stance is outright revolting in my paradigm. > They've never been taught how to argue with their (recently evolved) brains. > > Curt- Quite agree, quite agree. Evolution is ever so slow... ahem, no, I'm not referring to my MUA... Pope Mickey XXIII, Head Priest Of The "Walk-In-And-Start-Posting-Shameless-OT-Messages" cabal. -- " The bats have left the belfry The ravens have flown the nest Our lord Jesus was crucified Bollocks, I'm depressed " --Wulf's Xtian Goff Poem
Re: sending password in the command line
Merlin writes: > On Thursday 27 December 2001 16:46, Benjamin Smith wrote: > > > > Because that doesn't solve the original problem of the password being > > visible on the command line. The environment and the stdin were two > > suggested ways of passing the password. > > > ps -e shows the environment IIRC. use stdin or a file. -- etoffi
RE: Secure 2.4.x kernel
On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 03:22, Howland, Curtis wrote: > Naa, it's simian posturing. It happens with humans everywhere. I > enjoyed watching it in Good Will Hunting, and two days ago rented > Finding Forrester (same movie, different actors), and sure enough > lots of simian posturing. "You dare to challenge me in MY classroom?" etc. Oh yes. The alpha chimp syndrome. Second-circuit through and through. > The problem is cultural and social. We've moved away from the teaching > traditions that channeled such territoriality and aggression in constructive > ways. Hormone-addled male teens no longer get "whupped" into shape when they really need it. > > I can suggest the writings of Jeff Cooper for a better exploration of the > kinds of attitudes and processes that are now missing, and R.A.Heinlein for > lots of fictional explorations of the issue. May I humbly say anything by Tim Leary or Robert Anton Wilson you can lay your hands on? > There's some really nasty little flame freaks out there who simply do not > understand the repercussions of their words, and how they hurt people. There is nothing wrong in hurting people. Compassion may assume ruthless forms. However, feeding one's ego by means of "ultra-coolness" or the "poor underestimated me" stance is outright revolting in my paradigm. > They've never been taught how to argue with their (recently evolved) brains. > > Curt- Quite agree, quite agree. Evolution is ever so slow... ahem, no, I'm not referring to my MUA... Pope Mickey XXIII, Head Priest Of The "Walk-In-And-Start-Posting-Shameless-OT-Messages" cabal. -- " The bats have left the belfry The ravens have flown the nest Our lord Jesus was crucified Bollocks, I'm depressed " --Wulf's Xtian Goff Poem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
