Mail server anti-virus software?
Hi. I am setting up a (updating an existing) mail server at our company and would like to get some recommendations on what anti-virus software to run on the server. Currently I'm only looking for an on-demand mail scanner. (Maybe also with some kind of HTTP proxy support too. On-access scanning would also be a nice option, if I set up a samba server later.) I've tried to check a few websites for info on the commercial products, but I find them mostly confusing. Many have like one to a billion different 'products' or 'solutions' listed and I can't find the magic word linux anywhere either... :/ Well, here's my list of questions: Are there any free or no cost solutions (for corporate use)? Should I go for McAfee, Kaspersky, H+BEDV, Trend Micro, F-Secure or something else? What are you using? What's good or bad about them/it? Is there any comparisions of the products available in the web? Also, which mailserver would you recommend? (I have to learn one anyway.) Any good resources in the web? The server is running Debian Potato 2.2 with Bunk's kernel 2.4 updates. Current kernel is 2.2.19, but I will probably update it to 2.4(.17) soon to get ext3 support. The current MTA is sendmail 8.9.3-23. (The HTTP proxy solution that the company uses, is Apache 1.3.9-14 with proxy_module and Junkbuster 2.0-7.1) Thanks in advance, -- Mikko Kilpikoski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've tried to check a few websites for info on the commercial products, but I find them mostly confusing. Many have like one to a billion different 'products' or 'solutions' listed and I can't find the magic word linux anywhere either... :/ Well, here's my list of questions: Are there any free or no cost solutions (for corporate use)? Officially - no. I'd recommend Kaspersky or drweb32. The have close to similar functionality on the server side. Should I go for McAfee, Kaspersky, H+BEDV, Trend Micro, F-Secure or something else? What are you using? I am using kaspersky mail server antivirus - it seamlessly integrates into most of exisiting mail servers under unix (sendmail, qmail, exim, postfix). The only reason is they have offered free beta evaluation to me. What's good or bad about them/it? Nothing bad as for me :) Oh, yeah - McAfee doesn't have suitable software solution - only combined with hardware. Nothing bad but the cost... Is there any comparisions of the products available in the web? Concerning what? As for number of viruses - McAfee and Kaspersky. As for friendly user interface - I don't care. It is server solution for me, so config files are ok. :) As for size - drweb32. Also, which mailserver would you recommend? (I have to learn one anyway.) I'd recommend QMail. Why? - Read some mailing lists... And this is commonly the question of religion. Wish you good luck in this constant war! Anton. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail server anti-virus software?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Am Montag, 21. Januar 2002 11:17 schrieb Mikko Kilpikoski: Hi. I am setting up a (updating an existing) mail server at our company and would like to get some recommendations on what anti-virus software to run on the server. Currently I'm only looking for an on-demand mail scanner. (Maybe also with some kind of HTTP proxy support too. On-access scanning would also be a nice option, if I set up a samba server later.) I got somewhat confused :-) and did not reply to the list, but I suggested a look at http://www.openantivirus.org/ Ciao, Mirko - -- Mirko Wollenberg | Systemberater Kleine Rainstrasse 28 | 22765 Hamburg GSM: +49 170/ 554 78 72 http://www.mirkow.de/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8S/+E0uLUIzwK8qsRAj5SAJ9vXF5Q1vO+VpjKDpxtH/1oHYqLjwCZAXnV bf59p+IYpW/5MC2KCIrWE+g= =vpwh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail server anti-virus software?
also sprach Antropov Anton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.21.1231 +0100]: Also, which mailserver would you recommend? (I have to learn one anyway.) I'd recommend QMail. Why? - Read some mailing lists... And this is commonly the question of religion. and i'd recommend postfix. trying hard to stay away from a religious war, i am keeping this as factual as possible. postfix and qmail don't really have any functional differences. both can do the same, both have the same features, and both are very powerful and cool. however, they use completely different configuration paradigms, and while there is little to be said against doing it the qmail-way, postfix seems more intuitive to the newbie who's always only worried about configuration files. qmail does not have a configuration file like postfix, it uses a mixture of directory hierarchies, filenames, and contents to configure the mail server. once you understood the paradigm, you can do whatever you want, as said. if you aren't used to qmail, then it will have a steeper learning curve than postfix. i am sure some folks will disagree. the only way to answer it for yourself is to try them both. finally, it has to be mentioned that qmail's author, DJ Bernstein, is an excellent coder, just like postfix's author Wietse Venema. postfix is fully open-source and GPL, while qmail has a rather ridiculous propriertary license, preventing a binary distributions as we have it with .deb packages. the qmail package maintainer has done a good job though, and while you need some -dev libraries to install qmail, it's more or less automatic. *but*, and this is something that i probably shouldn't state here, but which i feel important. it's not about the functionality of the software, it's about the principle. Wietse, the author of postfix, advertises it as competitor of qmail, not enemy. DJB, the author of qmail, on the other hand, chooses to be present on the mailing lists of competing software (like postfix-users or bind9-users) and publicly *trashes* the competing software, constantly telling the users that his product, qmail or djbdns respectively, doesn't suffer from such childish sicknesses, and that instead of using the mailing list to solve their problems, they should switch to his software and not experience the problems. for me, that's reason enough not to support him. you are free to make up your own will though. especially because even though his software is good, it is not flawless! -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; net@madduck die wahrheit ist selten auf seiten der wahrscheinlichkeit. -- heinrich v. kleist msg05436/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail server anti-virus software?
and i'd recommend postfix. I run postfix + kavcheck + avcheck (do a google and you'll probably find it). kavcheck's postfix implementation isn't very good, but the avcheck program comes complete with a howto do set it up chroot. Very nice. Combine this with crontab and you can update twice daily for the best results. Tarjei trying hard to stay away from a religious war, i am keeping this as factual as possible. postfix and qmail don't really have any functional differences. both can do the same, both have the same features, and both are very powerful and cool. however, they use completely different configuration paradigms, and while there is little to be said against doing it the qmail-way, postfix seems more intuitive to the newbie who's always only worried about configuration files. qmail does not have a configuration file like postfix, it uses a mixture of directory hierarchies, filenames, and contents to configure the mail server. once you understood the paradigm, you can do whatever you want, as said. if you aren't used to qmail, then it will have a steeper learning curve than postfix. i am sure some folks will disagree. the only way to answer it for yourself is to try them both. finally, it has to be mentioned that qmail's author, DJ Bernstein, is an excellent coder, just like postfix's author Wietse Venema. postfix is fully open-source and GPL, while qmail has a rather ridiculous propriertary license, preventing a binary distributions as we have it with .deb packages. the qmail package maintainer has done a good job though, and while you need some -dev libraries to install qmail, it's more or less automatic. *but*, and this is something that i probably shouldn't state here, but which i feel important. it's not about the functionality of the software, it's about the principle. Wietse, the author of postfix, advertises it as competitor of qmail, not enemy. DJB, the author of qmail, on the other hand, chooses to be present on the mailing lists of competing software (like postfix-users or bind9-users) and publicly *trashes* the competing software, constantly telling the users that his product, qmail or djbdns respectively, doesn't suffer from such childish sicknesses, and that instead of using the mailing list to solve their problems, they should switch to his software and not experience the problems. for me, that's reason enough not to support him. you are free to make up your own will though. especially because even though his software is good, it is not flawless! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mail server anti-virus software?
Also, which mailserver would you recommend? (I have to learn one anyway.) I'd recommend QMail. Why? - Read some mailing lists... And this is commonly the question of religion. and i'd recommend postfix. trying hard to stay away from a religious war, i am keeping this as factual as possible. postfix and qmail don't really have any functional differences. both can do the same, both have the same features, and both are very powerful and cool. Frankly speaking, I have no experience with other MTAs. But qmail was installed by me from scratch, i.e. I really had no any experience with MTA or even Linux. however, they use completely different configuration paradigms, and while there is little to be said against doing it the qmail-way, postfix seems more intuitive to the newbie who's always only worried about configuration files. qmail does not have a configuration file like postfix, it uses a mixture of directory hierarchies, filenames, and contents to configure the mail server. once you understood the paradigm, you can do whatever you want, as said. Agreed. Not so simple for newbie. I've experienced some funny problems with one wrong letter in the config file :). *but*, and this is something that i probably shouldn't state here, but which i feel important. it's not about the functionality of the software, it's about the principle. ... Yes, I know about it. Agreed again. Somebody said agressive personality. That's the thing I newer forget to anybody too. Only one of us is God, so help if you can. OK, it is time to taste postfix. Knowledge - that's why I am spending my time on mailing lists! :). Thanks Martin! Anton. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Greetings! On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:17:56PM +0200, Mikko Kilpikoski wrote: Well, here's my list of questions: Are there any free or no cost solutions (for corporate use)? For exim there is a filter which rejects all mail with directly executable files attached (ftp.exim.org/pub/filter - or similar). While not a virus filter it helps protect from stupid mistakes and overly (virus-)friendly mail clients. Should I go for McAfee, Kaspersky, H+BEDV, Trend Micro, F-Secure or something else? At work we use Trend with good success. It comes with builtin HTTP proxy and mail gate, so no manual configuration of mail servers needed for integration. Web interface is nice for Win*-spoiled admins, but plain config file editing works just as well. Also, which mailserver would you recommend? (I have to learn one anyway.) Postfix or exim. I found exim to be easier to set up - which might have to do with the not-so-good/extensive docs for postfix... Bye Volker -- Volker Tanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -===- Research Development Division, WYAE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail server anti-virus software?
Hi. I am setting up a (updating an existing) mail server at our company and would like to get some recommendations on what anti-virus software to run on the server. Currently I'm only looking for an on-demand mail scanner. (Maybe also with some kind of HTTP proxy support too. On-access scanning would also be a nice option, if I set up a samba server later.) I've tried to check a few websites for info on the commercial products, but I find them mostly confusing. Many have like one to a billion different 'products' or 'solutions' listed and I can't find the magic word linux anywhere either... :/ Well, here's my list of questions: Are there any free or no cost solutions (for corporate use)? Should I go for McAfee, Kaspersky, H+BEDV, Trend Micro, F-Secure or something else? What are you using? What's good or bad about them/it? Is there any comparisions of the products available in the web? Also, which mailserver would you recommend? (I have to learn one anyway.) Any good resources in the web? The server is running Debian Potato 2.2 with Bunk's kernel 2.4 updates. Current kernel is 2.2.19, but I will probably update it to 2.4(.17) soon to get ext3 support. The current MTA is sendmail 8.9.3-23. (The HTTP proxy solution that the company uses, is Apache 1.3.9-14 with proxy_module and Junkbuster 2.0-7.1) Thanks in advance, -- Mikko Kilpikoski
Re: Mail server anti-virus software?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Am Montag, 21. Januar 2002 11:17 schrieb Mikko Kilpikoski: Hi. I am setting up a (updating an existing) mail server at our company and would like to get some recommendations on what anti-virus software to run on the server. Currently I'm only looking for an on-demand mail scanner. (Maybe also with some kind of HTTP proxy support too. On-access scanning would also be a nice option, if I set up a samba server later.) I got somewhat confused :-) and did not reply to the list, but I suggested a look at http://www.openantivirus.org/ Ciao, Mirko - -- Mirko Wollenberg | Systemberater Kleine Rainstrasse 28 | 22765 Hamburg GSM: +49 170/ 554 78 72 http://www.mirkow.de/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8S/+E0uLUIzwK8qsRAj5SAJ9vXF5Q1vO+VpjKDpxtH/1oHYqLjwCZAXnV bf59p+IYpW/5MC2KCIrWE+g= =vpwh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mail server anti-virus software?
also sprach Antropov Anton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.21.1231 +0100]: Also, which mailserver would you recommend? (I have to learn one anyway.) I'd recommend QMail. Why? - Read some mailing lists... And this is commonly the question of religion. and i'd recommend postfix. trying hard to stay away from a religious war, i am keeping this as factual as possible. postfix and qmail don't really have any functional differences. both can do the same, both have the same features, and both are very powerful and cool. however, they use completely different configuration paradigms, and while there is little to be said against doing it the qmail-way, postfix seems more intuitive to the newbie who's always only worried about configuration files. qmail does not have a configuration file like postfix, it uses a mixture of directory hierarchies, filenames, and contents to configure the mail server. once you understood the paradigm, you can do whatever you want, as said. if you aren't used to qmail, then it will have a steeper learning curve than postfix. i am sure some folks will disagree. the only way to answer it for yourself is to try them both. finally, it has to be mentioned that qmail's author, DJ Bernstein, is an excellent coder, just like postfix's author Wietse Venema. postfix is fully open-source and GPL, while qmail has a rather ridiculous propriertary license, preventing a binary distributions as we have it with .deb packages. the qmail package maintainer has done a good job though, and while you need some -dev libraries to install qmail, it's more or less automatic. *but*, and this is something that i probably shouldn't state here, but which i feel important. it's not about the functionality of the software, it's about the principle. Wietse, the author of postfix, advertises it as competitor of qmail, not enemy. DJB, the author of qmail, on the other hand, chooses to be present on the mailing lists of competing software (like postfix-users or bind9-users) and publicly *trashes* the competing software, constantly telling the users that his product, qmail or djbdns respectively, doesn't suffer from such childish sicknesses, and that instead of using the mailing list to solve their problems, they should switch to his software and not experience the problems. for me, that's reason enough not to support him. you are free to make up your own will though. especially because even though his software is good, it is not flawless! -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] die wahrheit ist selten auf seiten der wahrscheinlichkeit. -- heinrich v. kleist pgpew1fIeLgwu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail server anti-virus software?
and i'd recommend postfix. I run postfix + kavcheck + avcheck (do a google and you'll probably find it). kavcheck's postfix implementation isn't very good, but the avcheck program comes complete with a howto do set it up chroot. Very nice. Combine this with crontab and you can update twice daily for the best results. Tarjei trying hard to stay away from a religious war, i am keeping this as factual as possible. postfix and qmail don't really have any functional differences. both can do the same, both have the same features, and both are very powerful and cool. however, they use completely different configuration paradigms, and while there is little to be said against doing it the qmail-way, postfix seems more intuitive to the newbie who's always only worried about configuration files. qmail does not have a configuration file like postfix, it uses a mixture of directory hierarchies, filenames, and contents to configure the mail server. once you understood the paradigm, you can do whatever you want, as said. if you aren't used to qmail, then it will have a steeper learning curve than postfix. i am sure some folks will disagree. the only way to answer it for yourself is to try them both. finally, it has to be mentioned that qmail's author, DJ Bernstein, is an excellent coder, just like postfix's author Wietse Venema. postfix is fully open-source and GPL, while qmail has a rather ridiculous propriertary license, preventing a binary distributions as we have it with .deb packages. the qmail package maintainer has done a good job though, and while you need some -dev libraries to install qmail, it's more or less automatic. *but*, and this is something that i probably shouldn't state here, but which i feel important. it's not about the functionality of the software, it's about the principle. Wietse, the author of postfix, advertises it as competitor of qmail, not enemy. DJB, the author of qmail, on the other hand, chooses to be present on the mailing lists of competing software (like postfix-users or bind9-users) and publicly *trashes* the competing software, constantly telling the users that his product, qmail or djbdns respectively, doesn't suffer from such childish sicknesses, and that instead of using the mailing list to solve their problems, they should switch to his software and not experience the problems. for me, that's reason enough not to support him. you are free to make up your own will though. especially because even though his software is good, it is not flawless!
RE: Mail server anti-virus software?
Also, which mailserver would you recommend? (I have to learn one anyway.) I'd recommend QMail. Why? - Read some mailing lists... And this is commonly the question of religion. and i'd recommend postfix. trying hard to stay away from a religious war, i am keeping this as factual as possible. postfix and qmail don't really have any functional differences. both can do the same, both have the same features, and both are very powerful and cool. Frankly speaking, I have no experience with other MTAs. But qmail was installed by me from scratch, i.e. I really had no any experience with MTA or even Linux. however, they use completely different configuration paradigms, and while there is little to be said against doing it the qmail-way, postfix seems more intuitive to the newbie who's always only worried about configuration files. qmail does not have a configuration file like postfix, it uses a mixture of directory hierarchies, filenames, and contents to configure the mail server. once you understood the paradigm, you can do whatever you want, as said. Agreed. Not so simple for newbie. I've experienced some funny problems with one wrong letter in the config file :). *but*, and this is something that i probably shouldn't state here, but which i feel important. it's not about the functionality of the software, it's about the principle. ... Yes, I know about it. Agreed again. Somebody said agressive personality. That's the thing I newer forget to anybody too. Only one of us is God, so help if you can. OK, it is time to taste postfix. Knowledge - that's why I am spending my time on mailing lists! :). Thanks Martin! Anton.
Re: Mail server anti-virus software?
Greetings! On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:17:56PM +0200, Mikko Kilpikoski wrote: Well, here's my list of questions: Are there any free or no cost solutions (for corporate use)? For exim there is a filter which rejects all mail with directly executable files attached (ftp.exim.org/pub/filter - or similar). While not a virus filter it helps protect from stupid mistakes and overly (virus-)friendly mail clients. Should I go for McAfee, Kaspersky, H+BEDV, Trend Micro, F-Secure or something else? At work we use Trend with good success. It comes with builtin HTTP proxy and mail gate, so no manual configuration of mail servers needed for integration. Web interface is nice for Win*-spoiled admins, but plain config file editing works just as well. Also, which mailserver would you recommend? (I have to learn one anyway.) Postfix or exim. I found exim to be easier to set up - which might have to do with the not-so-good/extensive docs for postfix... Bye Volker -- Volker Tanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -===- Research Development Division, WYAE
