Re: [Secure-testing-team] Security support for volatile?

2009-03-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 09:21:44PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
 
 Yes, this is the correct approach in principle, but I don't think
 release candidates should be uploaded to volatile.  But I can't speak
 for debian-volatile, really.

Never noticed the rc in the version number there. I suppose also that a
new version should only be uploaded to volatile if the current version
will have reduced functionality as a result of changes in the new
version.

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: [Secure-testing-team] Security support for volatile?

2009-03-13 Thread Michael Tautschnig
 This one time, at band camp, Michael Stone said:
  On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 07:27:14PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
  I think one the reason why clamav is in volatile is that the engine
  might need updating to detect new viruses.  Is that something you
  want to support in stable-security?
  
  I think there's a couple of questions to answer:
  1) is there any point in deploying a virus scanner with outdated 
  definitions?
 
 Not in my opinion.
 
  2) is volatile well known enough that everyone installing a virus 
  scanner with debian is using the version in volatile?
 
 Sadly, no.  We still get people using the version shipped in etch on 
 #clamav and the clamav-users list, although the numbers are going down
 over time.  I'm hoping that the lenny release will help, as volatile is
 more likely to end up in people's sources.list.

I'm right now in the process of preparing an upload of clamav 0.95rc1; as such,
the question is: where to upload to? unstable? volatile? Any of the other
queues?

Thanks,
Michael



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Re: [Secure-testing-team] Security support for volatile?

2009-03-13 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:37:35PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote:

 I'm right now in the process of preparing an upload of clamav 0.95rc1; as 
 such,
 the question is: where to upload to? unstable? volatile? Any of the other
 queues?

Maybe I'm not quite clear on the concept of volatile, but I would have
thought both.  One built against stable goes to volatile, the other goes
to unstable.

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: [Secure-testing-team] Security support for volatile?

2009-03-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Tom Furie:

 On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:37:35PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote:

 I'm right now in the process of preparing an upload of clamav 0.95rc1; as 
 such,
 the question is: where to upload to? unstable? volatile? Any of the other
 queues?

 Maybe I'm not quite clear on the concept of volatile, but I would have
 thought both.  One built against stable goes to volatile, the other goes
 to unstable.

Yes, this is the correct approach in principle, but I don't think
release candidates should be uploaded to volatile.  But I can't speak
for debian-volatile, really.


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Re: [Secure-testing-team] Security support for volatile?

2009-02-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 * Luk Claes:
 
  Currently the security support for the volatile archive is supposed
  to be taken care of by the uploaders of the respective packages.
 
  I think it would make sense to have someone or a team tracking
  security issues for volatile.
 
  What do you think? Is anyone up to providing such issue tracking for
  volatile?

On 22.02.09 22:06, Florian Weimer wrote:
 For ClamAV and ClamAV-derived packages, I'd prefer to see uploads of
 new upstream versions to stable-security or stable-proposed-updates
 (that is, remove it from volatile).

May I know why? I think that volatile is exactly the place where they should
be.

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Re: [Secure-testing-team] Security support for volatile?

2009-02-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Luk Claes:

 Currently the security support for the volatile archive is supposed
 to be taken care of by the uploaders of the respective packages.

 I think it would make sense to have someone or a team tracking
 security issues for volatile.

 What do you think? Is anyone up to providing such issue tracking for
 volatile?

For ClamAV and ClamAV-derived packages, I'd prefer to see uploads of
new upstream versions to stable-security or stable-proposed-updates
(that is, remove it from volatile).


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