Re: xcin input method

2000-01-02 Thread thhsieh
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 02:56:09AM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote:
> Hi,
>   How do I change the input method to pinyin in xin??
> 
>   I tried ctl-alt-number keys and xcin -in1 blah, but they don't
>   work at all. And I don't think the documentation has mentioned
>   about it.
> 
>   I am using the newest version in potato.
>   XCIN (Chinese XIM server) version xcin 2.5.1-3.
>   (module ver: 19990710, syscin ver: 19990521).
> 
> 
>   Thanks.

Hello,

Please read

http://xcin.linux.org.tw/xcin-2.5/2.5.1/UserGuide.html
http://xcin.linux.org.tw/xcin-2.5/2.5.1/FAQ.html:  QC.5

And, currently the xcin stable version is 2.5.1-4. The only difference
between it and 2.5.1-3 is the updation of FAQ doc, and a small fix in
makefile. It is basically the same as 2.5.1-3.


T.H.Hsieh


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hts14_1.pcf.gz -tlc-song-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-c-140-gb2312.1980-1
cck24.pcf.gz -cclib-kai-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-
gb2312.1980-0
cck24_1.pcf.gz -cclib-kai-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-
gb2312.1980-1
cch24.pcf.gz -cclib-hei-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-
gb2312.1980-0
cch24_1.pcf.gz -cclib-hei-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-
gb2312.1980-1
ccfs24.pcf.gz -cclib-fangsong-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-
gb2312.1980-0
ccfs24_1.pcf.gz -cclib-fangsong-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-
240-gb2312.1980-1
taipei16.pcf.gz -eten-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-160-big5.et-0
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cclib16 -cclib-song-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-16-160-75-75-c-160-
gb2312.1980-0
ccs24 -cclib-song-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-gb2312.1980-0
ccs16_1 -cclib-song-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-16-160-75-75-c-160-
gb2312.1980-1
cclib16_1 -cclib-song-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-16-160-75-75-c-160-
gb2312.1980-1
ccs24_1 -cclib-song-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-
gb2312.1980-1
ccfs24 -cclib-fangsong-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-
gb2312.1980-0
ccfs24_1 -cclib-fangsong-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-
gb2312.1980-1
cck24 -cclib-kai-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-gb2312.1980-0
cch24 -cclib-hei-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-gb2312.1980-0
cck24_1 -cclib-kai-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-gb2312.1980-
1
cch24_1 -cclib-hei-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-gb2312.1980-
1
ccs16f -cclibf-song-medium-r-normal-fantizi-16-160-75-75-c-160-
gb12345.1990-0
ccs24f -cclibf-song-medium-r-normal-fantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-
gb12345.1990-0
ccs16f_1 -cclibf-song-medium-r-normal-fantizi-16-160-75-75-c-160-
gb12345.1990-1
ccs24f_1 -cclibf-song-medium-r-normal-fantizi-24-240-75-75-c-240-
gb12345.1990-1
hts14 -tlc-song-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-c-140-gb2312.1980-0
hts14_1 -tlc-song-medium-r-normal--1

Re: xcin input method

2000-01-02 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
I am now trying to get pinyin input method going with the Big5
locale. This is what I did:

[22:51|pts/[EMAIL PROTECTED] % export LANG=zh_TW.Big5
[22:51|pts/[EMAIL PROTECTED] % xcin &
[1] 2425
[22:51|pts/[EMAIL PROTECTED] % XCIN (ÖÐÎÄ XIM server) °æ±¾ xcin 2.5.1-3¡£
(Ä£×é°æ±¾: 19990710, syscin °æ±¾: 19990521)
(ʹÓà "-h" Ñ¡ÏîÏÔʾÏßÉÏ˵Ã÷)

xcin: ´íÎó: rcfile: pinyin: SETKEY: ÎÞЧµÄ±äÊýÖµ¡£

[1]  + exit 255   xcin


In my ~/.xcin/xcinrc file, I changed the following lines:

(CINPUT (cj simplex phone cantonese bimsphone array30 pinyin 
zh_hex))

and added:

(define pinyin
'((SETKEY 9)
  (AUTO_COMPOSE   YES)
  (AUTO_UPCHARYES)
  (AUTO_FULLUPNO)
  (SPACE_AUTOUP   NO)
  (SELKEY_SHIFT   NO)
  (SPACE_IGNORE   NO)
  (SPACE_RESETYES)
  (AUTO_RESET NO)
  (END_KEYNO)
  (WILD_ENABLEYES)
  (AUTO_SELECTNO)
  (SINMD_IN_LINE1 YES)
  (BEEP_WRONG YES)
  (BEEP_DUPCHAR   YES)))



Thanks.

Shao.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> http://xcin.linux.org.tw/xcin-2.5/2.5.1/UserGuide.html
> http://xcin.linux.org.tw/xcin-2.5/2.5.1/FAQ.html:  QC.5
> 
> And, currently the xcin stable version is 2.5.1-4. The only difference
> between it and 2.5.1-3 is the updation of FAQ doc, and a small fix in
> makefile. It is basically the same as 2.5.1-3.
> 
> 
> T.H.Hsieh
> 
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FORW: Re: linuxÊÇ·ñÓÐÈ«ÖÐÎÄ°æµÄ??

2000-01-02 Thread x--- ROT-13 First!! -=Hateme=-
Do flame although this thought is weird. :-)
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Apparently more l10n centered than i18n oriented.


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FORW: Re: linuxÊÇ·ñÓÐÈ«ÖÐÎÄ°æµÄ??

2000-01-02 Thread x--- ROT-13 First!! -=Hateme=-
Wow, I am looking forward to see it. Linux based? how much
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Re: xcin input method

2000-01-02 Thread Anthony Fok
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 10:03:43PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote:
>   Thanks for the reply. I am now getting this error:
> 
> [21:53|pts/[EMAIL PROTECTED] % export LANG=zh_CN.GB2312 
> [21:53|pts/[EMAIL PROTECTED] % xcin
> xcin: error: X locale "zh_CN.GB2312" is not supported by your system.

Oops!  Sorry about that!  Another bug to fix for Debian 2.2.  We'll contact
the XFree86 maintainer.  Apparently, a tiny patch was missed when Branden
was trying merge upstream patches etc., and zh_CN.GB2312 disappeared from
/usr/lib/X11/locale/locale.dir once again.  Nonetheless, it should be
/fixed in XFree86-3.3.6 in Debian.

The fix is simple though.  Add this line to /usr/lib/X11/locale/locale.dir:

zh/XLC_LOCALE   zh_CN.GB2312

And you should be able to use xcin once again.  :-)
Another thing: after installing zh-trans, please try
"LANG=zh_CN.GB2312 gnumeric" or gnomecal or gnomecard.  If no Chinese
characters show, edit /usr/lib/X11/locale/zh/XLC_LOCALE
and change

use_stdc_envTrue

to

use_stdc_envFalse

Now test it again.  Please let me know if it works or not.  :-)
(Special thanks from Yu Mingjian et al.  This fix is documented in
TurboLinux Chinese 4.02's ZWinPro 3.0's Chinput 2.0.  (I tried to make
ZWinPro 3.0 work in Debian, but so far, not much success yet.  I must
be missing something.  :-)

>   However, if I use zh_TW.Big5 locale, the above works fine.

Yes, indeed.  Thank God!  However, the latest locales package still has
a slight problem: LC_COLLATE for zh_TW.Big5 is not built somehow, and
glibc2's maintainer knows that and is working on it.

>   Also, it took me sometime to figure out that I actually need to
>   install the locale-zh package. The main problem is that I am not
>   even aware there is a such package. I think we should make all
>   the gb fonts package and xcin and so on at least suggest the
>   locale-zh package.

Thanks for the suggestion!  That's something I missed!  I'll make xcin
depends or recommends locale-zh.

>   In addition, I think it would be better if we can take out the
>   zh_TW stuff from the locales package, and merge with the package
>   locale-zh to create a new package, something like locales-chinese.
>   In this case, we can simply make xcin depends on
>   locales-chinese. Just a suggestion.

Hey, zh_TW.Big5 is also "zh", so no need to call it something
different.  ;-)  (it is also for the sake of uniformity, because there
are similar packages called locale-ja and locale-ko.)

locale-zh is a temporarily package.  As soon as glibc2.x handles
and build zh_{CN,JP,KR}.* properly, locale-{zh,ja,ko} would no longer
be necessary.

Hmm... on second thought, I like your idea.  I am discussing it with
Espy right this moment on irc.debian.org.  I'll let you know how things
turn out.  :-)

Cheers,

Anthony

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Re: xcin input method

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: On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 10:03:43PM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote:
: Now test it again.  Please let me know if it works or not.  :-)
: (Special thanks from Yu Mingjian et al.  This fix is documented in
: TurboLinux Chinese 4.02's ZWinPro 3.0's Chinput 2.0.  (I tried to make
: ZWinPro 3.0 work in Debian, but so far, not much success yet.  I must
: be missing something.  :-)

FWIW, I also can't make the chinput in zwinpro 3.0 work, so I still
can't upgrade the chinput in Potato...
(debugging X11 programs is beyond my ability until i have money to
buy those O'reilly books :p)

: Hmm... on second thought, I like your idea.  I am discussing it with
: Espy right this moment on irc.debian.org.  I'll let you know how things
: turn out.  :-)

Moving zh_TW.Big5 to locale-zh looks like a 'backward' move, but it
does make the dependency easier to handle... Actually why not push the
zh_CN.GB2312 into 'locales'?  >:P

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Re: xcin input method

2000-01-02 Thread Anthony Fok
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 10:41:18PM +, 何�]�h床�I wrote:
> FWIW, I also can't make the chinput in zwinpro 3.0 work, so I still
> can't upgrade the chinput in Potato...
> (debugging X11 programs is beyond my ability until i have money to
> buy those O'reilly books :p)

Yes, it starts up here, but it complains missing PY info or something like
that.  Hmm...

> : Hmm... on second thought, I like your idea.  I am discussing it with
> : Espy right this moment on irc.debian.org.  I'll let you know how things
> : turn out.  :-)
> 
> Moving zh_TW.Big5 to locale-zh looks like a 'backward' move, but it
> does make the dependency easier to handle... Actually why not push the
> zh_CN.GB2312 into 'locales'?  >:P

That day will come when glibc2 got things fixed.  :-)  Until then, we'd have
to wait.  The good thing is, most of these things should be transparent to
the end user, but of course, that means more bug-fixing.  :-)

Anthony

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