Re: Sunblade 2000 hangs hard, related to X

2003-10-16 Thread Alvaro Figueroa
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 12:55, Kent West wrote:

> If at kdm's login screen, I press Ctrl-Alt-F8 to go to the second X 
> session, things are fine IF there's a second X session on -F8; if not, 
> the machine hangs.
> If from a VT (say, Alt-F2), I press Alt-F8 to go to the second X 
> session, things are fine IF there's a second X session on -F8; if not, 
> the machine hangs.

Yeap. I've seen similar stuff on Splack, Gentoo and Sid while using two
X clients.

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Re: Sunblade 2000 hangs hard, related to X

2003-10-16 Thread Patrick Morris
Note to self: Next time read *entire* sentence before inserting foot.  
Didn't catch the part about it hanging at the OK prompt.


I wasn't here -- you never saw me.

Patrick Morris wrote:

This is pretty standard behavior for Sun hardware.  They're *supposed* 
to drop to the "OK" prompt when you hit Stop-A.






Re: Sunblade 2000 hangs hard, related to X

2003-10-16 Thread Patrick Morris

Kent West wrote:

If from anywhere, I press Stop-A, the machine hangs. If' I'm at a VT, 
I see the message "Type 'go' to resume   ok", but "go" doesn't do 
anything; the machine's totally hung. This happens even if I shut down 
kdm first. 


This is pretty standard behavior for Sun hardware.  They're *supposed* 
to drop to the "OK" prompt when you hit Stop-A.




Re: Sunblade 2000 hangs hard, related to X

2003-10-16 Thread Ben Collins
> If from anywhere, I press Stop-A, the machine hangs. If' I'm at a VT, I 
> see the message "Type 'go' to resume   ok", but "go" doesn't do 
> anything; the machine's totally hung. This happens even if I shut down 
> kdm first.

Hanging with Stop-A is only because sparc64-linux doesn't relinquish the
USB keyboard back to the PROM correctly. I think I remember Dave saying
this was a problem that wouldn't be fixed anytime soon, if at all.

The Alt+F8 thing seems weird.

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Re: [DebToo-Devel] Some benchmarks from using apt-fu + modified pentium-builder

2003-10-16 Thread Heitzso

Problem is current libssl package doesn't build in sparc32
environment.  There's a bug in the package build setup.

BTW, lsh was recommended and it works wonders.  Slightly
less than 2 seconds to setup ssh/cvs-over-ssh, which is
remarkably better than the 10 or so seconds for setting
up ssh via openssl.  My email TSL still routes via openssl/libssl
and takes the 10 seconds, but otherwise ...

Heitzso


Andrew Sharp wrote:


On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:16:24PM -0400, Heitzso wrote:
 


Eric Wong wrote:

   


I used very conservative optimizations, but nevertheless, it looks good
in some cases.

http://www.yhbt.net/normalperson/debian/html/benchmark.html

apt-fu and my modified pentium-builder available here:
http://www.yhbt.net/normalperson/debian/



 


Can your tools work in a debian-sparc environment?
And how do your tools differ from the apt-build
tools (both standard distribution and debtoo flavor)?
Thanks!

BTW, a simple integer math loop test on sparc32
dual hypersparc 150 cpus:
 gcc no optimizations or arch spec'ed --- 4:48 (4 minutes, 48 seconds)
 -O --- 0:18  (0 minutes, 18 seconds)
 -O1 --- 0:18
 -O2 --- 0:18
 -O2 -mv8 --- 0:12
 -O2 -mv8 -mcpu=hypersparc --- 0:12
 -O2 -mv8 -mcpu=hypersparc -mtune=hypersparc --- 0:12
 -Os --- 0:24
 -mv8 --- 3:50 (experiment, just arch no optimizations)
   



Did you try -mv8+ ?  Is there such a thing?

 


It appears that source build tailored to -mv8 should
yield some speedup over -mv7 flavor distributed.
I'm still trying to get a ssh logon to my ss20 to drop
down to a few seconds.  Somewhat frustrating for every
cvs/email/ssh (all using ssl) to take about 10 seconds for
the ssl to setup.
   



libssl is the thing.  a long time ago i built the libssl packages for
mv8+ and put them on my website, but that was many security and other
changes ago.  the point being that if you can't find any prebuilt
packages by searching these archives or with google, then it is
perfectly possible to do it yourself.  i think various people have also
posted on this list what the changes are to build that lib with those
compiler switches.

This might be good for a starting place:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-sparc&m=101919235803803&w=2

a
 






Sunblade 2000 hangs hard, related to X

2003-10-16 Thread Kent West
I have four SunBlade 2000s running Debian sid. For the most part they 
work great, but if the "wrong" key(s) are pressed, the machine hangs 
hard, so that the CAPS lock/Numlock indicators don't work, and the 
machine can no longer be pinged or ssh'd into. Power cycling is the only 
recourse available.


If at kdm's login screen, I press Ctrl-Alt-F8 to go to the second X 
session, things are fine IF there's a second X session on -F8; if not, 
the machine hangs.
If from a VT (say, Alt-F2), I press Alt-F8 to go to the second X 
session, things are fine IF there's a second X session on -F8; if not, 
the machine hangs.


If from anywhere, I press Stop-A, the machine hangs. If' I'm at a VT, I 
see the message "Type 'go' to resume   ok", but "go" doesn't do 
anything; the machine's totally hung. This happens even if I shut down 
kdm first.


There may be other keystrokes that hang the machine also, but these are 
duplicatable, every time.


Any clues?

Thanks!

--
Kent




Re: [DebToo-Devel] Some benchmarks from using apt-fu + modified pentium-builder

2003-10-16 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:16:24PM -0400, Heitzso wrote:
> Eric Wong wrote:
> 
> >I used very conservative optimizations, but nevertheless, it looks good
> >in some cases.
> >
> >http://www.yhbt.net/normalperson/debian/html/benchmark.html
> >
> >apt-fu and my modified pentium-builder available here:
> >http://www.yhbt.net/normalperson/debian/
> >
> > 
> >
> Can your tools work in a debian-sparc environment?
> And how do your tools differ from the apt-build
> tools (both standard distribution and debtoo flavor)?
> Thanks!
> 
> BTW, a simple integer math loop test on sparc32
> dual hypersparc 150 cpus:
>   gcc no optimizations or arch spec'ed --- 4:48 (4 minutes, 48 seconds)
>   -O --- 0:18  (0 minutes, 18 seconds)
>   -O1 --- 0:18
>   -O2 --- 0:18
>   -O2 -mv8 --- 0:12
>   -O2 -mv8 -mcpu=hypersparc --- 0:12
>   -O2 -mv8 -mcpu=hypersparc -mtune=hypersparc --- 0:12
>   -Os --- 0:24
>   -mv8 --- 3:50 (experiment, just arch no optimizations)

Did you try -mv8+ ?  Is there such a thing?

> It appears that source build tailored to -mv8 should
> yield some speedup over -mv7 flavor distributed.
> I'm still trying to get a ssh logon to my ss20 to drop
> down to a few seconds.  Somewhat frustrating for every
> cvs/email/ssh (all using ssl) to take about 10 seconds for
> the ssl to setup.

libssl is the thing.  a long time ago i built the libssl packages for
mv8+ and put them on my website, but that was many security and other
changes ago.  the point being that if you can't find any prebuilt
packages by searching these archives or with google, then it is
perfectly possible to do it yourself.  i think various people have also
posted on this list what the changes are to build that lib with those
compiler switches.

This might be good for a starting place:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-sparc&m=101919235803803&w=2

a



Re: [DebToo-Devel] Some benchmarks from using apt-fu + modified pentium-builder

2003-10-16 Thread Heitzso

Eric Wong wrote:


I used very conservative optimizations, but nevertheless, it looks good
in some cases.

http://www.yhbt.net/normalperson/debian/html/benchmark.html

apt-fu and my modified pentium-builder available here:
http://www.yhbt.net/normalperson/debian/

 


Can your tools work in a debian-sparc environment?
And how do your tools differ from the apt-build
tools (both standard distribution and debtoo flavor)?
Thanks!

BTW, a simple integer math loop test on sparc32
dual hypersparc 150 cpus:
  gcc no optimizations or arch spec'ed --- 4:48 (4 minutes, 48 seconds)
  -O --- 0:18  (0 minutes, 18 seconds)
  -O1 --- 0:18
  -O2 --- 0:18
  -O2 -mv8 --- 0:12
  -O2 -mv8 -mcpu=hypersparc --- 0:12
  -O2 -mv8 -mcpu=hypersparc -mtune=hypersparc --- 0:12
  -Os --- 0:24
  -mv8 --- 3:50 (experiment, just arch no optimizations)

It appears that source build tailored to -mv8 should
yield some speedup over -mv7 flavor distributed.
I'm still trying to get a ssh logon to my ss20 to drop
down to a few seconds.  Somewhat frustrating for every
cvs/email/ssh (all using ssl) to take about 10 seconds for
the ssl to setup.

Heitzso



Re: debian/sparc serial console

2003-10-16 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 05:16:55PM +0200, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-01 09:37:01 +0100, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > I've transitioned my Ultra 10 from my primary Desktop machine to  
> > > network server (having acquired a powerbook for my primary needs  -  
> > > still trying to get Evolution compiled on that.)  I would like to  
> > > access this Ultra 10 only through a serial cable & ethernet, without  
> > > monitor or keyboard.  I should be able to do this through some settings  
> > > in Open Firmware right?
> > OpenBoot should do it automatically - hook up the serial cable and
> > unplug the monitor and keyboard.  You can set it to always use serial
> > but I would have thought leaving it on auto switching was best.
> 
> Um, with my SS10, ROM 2.25, this doesn't happen. I have to explicitely
> set serial I/O if I want that. Simply unplugging keyboard (which works
> nicely on another SS10 with an older ROM version) doesn't help here...

Then you need to unset the OBP settings that have made this manadtory.
The default default is to use serial if there not a FB and a keyboard.

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XMMS Sound

2003-10-16 Thread Jonathan Andrews
Hi,

I've changed from Woody 3 stable to unstable.

All seems ok, lots of nice new packages and desktop. But sound is a
problem. 

The modules are loaded and /dev/dsp seems to work with things like
mpg123 - but xmms doesn't want to play. I've tried all the output
drivers.

Does anyone know what I should change/configure to make it work.

Thanks,
Jon