Re: xine-lib build failure on sparc buildds
It's a binutils sparc bug, see the archives of debian-sparc, where I posted a fix. But for some reason nobody has fired up a new binutils build yet to get this fixed up. :-/
debian on a Sun Netra 1125
Hello, i got an offer for a sun netra 1125 2 * 440MHz Dual CPU Ultra SPARC II 2GB RAM like http://de.sun.com/Produkte/Hardware/Netra/t1120/daten.html the question is: Is it possible to run debian(woody) on it?(i normally only use i386) google was helpless because i dont understand hungari :) wich the most results shows me. i wish to use it as an server so if the graphicacard dont work is not important. If somebody knows an good tutorial how to install debian on it please tell me too. regards Daniel aka codebreaker #debian.de signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: debian on a Sun Netra 1125
i got an offer for a sun netra 1125 2 * 440MHz Dual CPU Ultra SPARC II 2GB RAM like http://de.sun.com/Produkte/Hardware/Netra/t1120/daten.html the question is: Is it possible to run debian(woody) on it?(i normally only use i386) Yes. My install was Woody, I upgraded it afterwards to Sid. google was helpless because i dont understand hungari :) wich the most results shows me. i wish to use it as an server so if the graphicacard dont work is not important. It doesn't have a videocard, only a SPARC serial console. If somebody knows an good tutorial how to install debian on it please tell me too. I just followed the regular 'how to install linux on a sparc' document. Igmar
Re: debian on a Sun Netra 1125
Am So, den 29.08.2004 schrieb Igmar Palsenberg um 16:46: i got an offer for a sun netra 1125 2 * 440MHz Dual CPU Ultra SPARC II 2GB RAM like http://de.sun.com/Produkte/Hardware/Netra/t1120/daten.html the question is: Is it possible to run debian(woody) on it?(i normally only use i386) Yes. My install was Woody, I upgraded it afterwards to Sid. What can you say about the performance of this machine. how fast is it? like a duro 1800 or what. i only know that a sparc is about Mhz*3=i386 google was helpless because i dont understand hungari :) wich the most results shows me. i wish to use it as an server so if the graphicacard dont work is not important. It doesn't have a videocard, only a SPARC serial console. uhh. If somebody knows an good tutorial how to install debian on it please tell me too. I just followed the regular 'how to install linux on a sparc' document. are you somewhere on irc available to help me(in case i run in trouble) when i recieve the machine? I think i will get it next week. regards Daniel Igmar signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: debian on a Sun Netra 1125
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:11:23 +0200 Daniel J. Priem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What can you say about the performance of this machine. how fast is it? like a duro 1800 or what. i only know that a sparc is about Mhz*3=i386 If you want good performance don't get a Sparc :-) I also heavily disagree with that Mhz formula, if I had to give one I'd give something closer to mhz*1.5 at best. But with the speed the main busses are getting on x86 these days, that multiplier is getting smaller and smaller. And the x86 uses memory much better than sparc due to the increased code density the x86 CISC instruction set has. It's amusing, the things that people said was a large disadvantage, turns out the be a huge benefit. :-)
Re: debian on a Sun Netra 1125
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, David S. Miller wrote: On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:11:23 +0200 Daniel J. Priem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What can you say about the performance of this machine. how fast is it? like a duro 1800 or what. i only know that a sparc is about Mhz*3=i386 If you want good performance don't get a Sparc :-) It depends what 'performance' means to you. If it means raw i/o and data processing ability then you want Sparc, otherwise if you equate 'performance' to be how fast Doom 1/2/3/etc. runs on your computer, then you're better off with a Wintendo machine. We won't get into the fact that hardware is one thing, but there's the software running on it as well which makes the whole thing totally subjective unless the benchmarking is done with the same OS, same revision level, same patch level, same packages installed, running the same applications, etc... 8-) I also heavily disagree with that Mhz formula, if I had to give one I'd give something closer to mhz*1.5 at best. But with the speed the main busses are getting on x86 these days, that multiplier is getting smaller and smaller. And the x86 uses memory much better than sparc due to the increased code density the x86 CISC instruction set has. The benchmarks are changing day-to-day, so a rule of thumb applicable a few years back perhaps isn't much use now. Regards, Craig. -- Craig Dewick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). http://lios.apana.org.au/~craig APANA Sydney Regional Co-ordinator. Operator of Jedi (an APANA Sydney POP). Always striving for a secure long-term future in an insecure short-term world Have you exported a crypto system today? Do your bit to undermine the NSA.
