Re: weird-o-rama: Type5 keyboard suddenly becomes PC104 keyboard...

2005-03-16 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>If anybody out there with a Sun serial mouse working under XFree86 4.0 and 
>a 2.6 kernel could send me their mouse section (as above)

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "false"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection


Since /dev/input/mice doesn't exist, obviously the first one is being
used.

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Re: Problems with Xinerama using a Matrox Millenium / Creator 3D with an Ultra 30.

2005-03-16 Thread Detlef
David S. Miller wrote:

> On 16 Mar 2005 02:48:27 +
> Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> This:
>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2004/05/msg00203.html
>> purports to be a patch, seems a bit hack-ish but looks like a start.  I
>> guess it's not a complete solution for the reason given here:
>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2004/01/msg00026.html
> 
> Right, it only works when your video card is behind the
> first PCI controller.
> 
>> The latest CVS version of XFree86 seems to have a different solution
>> which I /think/ solves the problem.
>>
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus/linuxPci.c
>> change 249
>> "249. Deal with Linux 2.6's PCI bus naming (Marc La France)."
> 
> It looks promising.
> 
>> But given that 4.4 won't be in Debian for licencing reasons and there is
>> a migration to X.org planned for post-sarge it does seem like quite a
>> reasonable approach to solving the problem.
> 
> Right, and I'm more than happy to work on a careful backport
> of that patch.
> 
> I'll try to find some time for that.
> 
> 
Thanks for this, I havnet had much time today but I implemented the hack as
laid out in http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2004/02/msg00013.html

Now lspci and scanpci do indeed show the same output again. 
XFree86 -scanpci is still empty and X does not start in multihead mode:

   Fatal server error:
  Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs
  for all framebuffer devices

But I specified them in the XF86Config-4 and each card is working fine in a
single screen layout with the data below. 

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Creator3D"
Driver  "sunffb"
BusID   "SBUS:/SUNW,[EMAIL PROTECTED],0"
Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
Option  "FBDev" "/dev/fb0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Matrox Millenium"
Driver  "fbdev"
BusID   "0001:00:02.0"
Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
Option  "FBDev" "/dev/fb1"
EndSection


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Re: weird-o-rama: Type5 keyboard suddenly becomes PC104 keyboard...

2005-03-16 Thread Daniel E. Jonsen

| So you're saying I should use the "us" (PC104) keyboard mapping even
| with the Sun type 5 keyboard on a 2.6 kernel?  Let me give it a shot...
Any X keymap available ?
This is what I used successfully in XF86Config-4 on a 2.4.27 kernel with 
the system (console) keyboard mapping set to "sunkeymap":

Section "InputDevice"
  Identifier  "Sun Keyboard"
  Driver  "keyboard"
  Option  "CoreKeyboard"
  Option  "XkbRules"  "sun"
  Option  "XkbModel"  "type5"
  Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection
and this is what I'm using now, on a 2.6.8 kernel with the system (console) 
keyboard mapping set to "us" (pc104):

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Sun Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/event1"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection
I'm pretty sure that the 2.4 kernel didn't even need a "Device" entry like 
the 2.6 kernel does.  Or maybe I accidentally deleted it.  In any case, I 
tried the 2.6 kernel's block with "sun" and "type5", but the key mappings 
were all wrong.  AFAIK this might be the best one can do, but I'm the one 
with the questions in ths case, not the answers...

The keyboard seems to be working OK now (except, as noted above by Vincent 
Pelletier, for a possible lack of special Sun key functionality), but I 
can't get the Sun serial mouse going.  I tried "/dev/sunmouse", which is 
what the 2.4 kernel liked, as well as "/dev/input/mice" (which is what the 
2.6 kernel likes for the USB mouse) and "/dev/input/mouse0" :

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Sun Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mouse0"
Option  "Protocol"  "BusMouse"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
EndSection
None of these work.  "/dev/sunmouse" maps to no existing device, and 
apparently neither of the other two (existing) devices above correspond to 
the Sun mouse.

If anybody out there with a Sun serial mouse working under XFree86 4.0 and 
a 2.6 kernel could send me their mouse section (as above), or if anyone 
could tell me what device a Sun serial mouse maps to under X, I'd be 
grateful.  Actually, maybe the "Protocol" section might be wrong also 
(maybe "ImPS/2" rather than "BusMouse"?), so please correct me there if 
that's the case.

Thanks.
Dan. 

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Re: weird-o-rama: Type5 keyboard suddenly becomes PC104 keyboard...

2005-03-16 Thread Daniel E. Jonsen

> It's as though the Sun keyboard's firmware was
> reprogrammed to generate PC104 scan codes.
That's completely normal behavior with 2.6 kernels (where the input layer
was redesigned).
So you're saying I should use the "us" (PC104) keyboard mapping even with 
the Sun type 5 keyboard on a 2.6 kernel?  Let me give it a shot...

See the post-halloween-2.6.txt doc in kernel source Documentation dir.

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Re: weird-o-rama: Type5 keyboard suddenly becomes PC104 keyboard...

2005-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 19:23, Daniel E. Jonsen wrote:
> It's as though the Sun keyboard's firmware was
> reprogrammed to generate PC104 scan codes.

That's completely normal behavior with 2.6 kernels (where the input layer 
was redesigned).

See the post-halloween-2.6.txt doc in kernel source Documentation dir.

Cheers,
FJP


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weird-o-rama: Type5 keyboard suddenly becomes PC104 keyboard...

2005-03-16 Thread Daniel E. Jonsen
I have an Ultra5 running a custom 2.6.8 kernel that I'm using as a LAMP 
server.  I have a PCI USB 2.0 board installed so that I can use my PC104 
USB keyboard & mouse and put the Ultra5 on my 4-port USB KVM switch while I 
set everything up & debug, then I'll yank the USB board and move the 
machine across the building to the server room, where there's plenty of 
space for the Sun type 5 keyboard & mouse.  The kernel I'm running now 
("USB kernel") has USB and full HID compiled-in and sun KB & mouse as 
modules (not loaded).  I also compiled the exact same kernel, but with Sun 
keyboard & mouse compiled-in and all USB stuff as modules ("Sun 
kernel").  The whole time using the USB kernel, I had to have the Sun KB 
attached so that the machine wouldn't boot to a serial console, and to 
interact with the OpenFirmware prompt.

I just tried booting with the Sun kernel after (using the USB kernel) 
running 'dpkg-reconfigure console-data' followed by 'dpkg-reconfigure 
console-common'.  Using these two commands, I set the system keyboard map 
to "sunkeymap", which is apparently correct for a Sun type 5 US 
keyboard.  After rebooting, the system took no input from the USB keyboard 
and did take input from the Sun keyboard, as expected.  However, what I 
didn't expect was this:  the keys on the sun keyboard, even with the 
"sunkeymap" console mapping, generate exactly the same output as the keys 
on the USB keyboard when I run it with the Sun keyboard map.  It's as 
though the Sun keyboard's firmware was reprogrammed to generate PC104 scan 
codes.  No, I'm not on drugs.  And the Sun keyboard works normally at the 
OpenFirmware prompt.  Anyone have any clue what's causing this?  Any idea 
how I can fix this?

As a very slight aside, my keyboard actually has "MODEL:  TYPE 6" molded 
into the bottom, but it ran perfectly with the type 5 keymap before, and 
I've only ever read about type 6 keyboards in USB form.

Thanks.
Dan.
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Re: Debian Sparc Buildd

2005-03-16 Thread Uwe A. P. Wuerdinger
Uwe A. P. Wuerdinger schrieb:
[-snip-]
A big thank you to all wo have sent me pm
I just ordered 2 512MB TwinMOS/SunBlade 100 Memory Module 168pin PC133 
ECC SDRAM DIMM (p/n MX-X6993A)

with shipping that will be < 250$
ordered from
http://www.memoryx.net
greets Uwe
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Re: Sun Blade 100 installation

2005-03-16 Thread J. David Blackstone

On March 15, 2005, Daniel_Lönn wrote:

> "So if I download a full ISO, say 
> http://debian-cd.rutgers.edu/images/sparc/debian-30r1-sparc-binary-1.iso 
> , and burn it, I can boot from that disk and use it to do a network 
> install?  There's not a scaled down version designed for network 
> install, anywhere?"
> 
> --->
> 
> Of course, that's what I did. It gives a variety of install methods. Go 
> ahead ;-) Good luck!

  Thank you for your help.  I finally have Debian working on this box.

  I think what threw me is the instructions kept trying to prompt me to look 
for the stripped-down netinstall image, when no such image existed for sparc.

  It did take a long time to download the entire disk (projected time was 4 
hours for the first mirror I tried, on a high speed connection; I found another 
mirror and got it in 1:30).  But at least it worked.

  And now that I have woody installed, I'm upgrading to testing.

Thanks,
jdb



Re: Debian Sparc Buildd

2005-03-16 Thread Uwe A. P. Wuerdinger
Jurij Smakov schrieb:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Blars Blarson wrote:
As far as I understand, the main problems with sparc are not
availability of hardware.
[skip]
There have been kernel porting issues, and I beleive additional help
could be used there.
Debian-installer could use more testing, especially on newer systems.
USB keyboards and other hardware not in 5-year old workstations are
areas that most need testing.
sun4c/sun4d are not being supported in sarge, (at least for new
installs) and it looks like sun4m (the last sparc32) will not be in
etch even if sparc is a release architecture.

While I would not mind having a faster machine available for building 
testing/debugging kernels, I agree with Blars that the lack of hardware 
may hardly be considered a bottleneck. Comments about other points:

* Kernel situation seems to be more or less ok at the moment. Sparc 
kernel images are built from the common kernel-source, and all the 
patches we produce get promptly accepted upstream in most cases (thanks 
to Dave Miller and William Lee Irwin III for doing a good job!). It 
would be nice if people would be more active in testing new kernel - see 
the wiki page at [0] on how to help.
I just secured myself a Blade 100. Should get it some time around next week.
Has anybody on top of his head a source for RAM Modules (cheep and 
acessable from Germany) for that Baby?

[-snip-]
greets Uwe
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WG: Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-16 Thread jochen005
> In line with the subject of porting / obsolescence, I should mention
> that some not terribly old UltraSPARC systems (my Ultra 10 for 
> example)are not even supported by Sun in Solaris 10.
> 
> If we quit supporting these, I think they will just quit working.
> 

At least that statement is not true. According to the release notes 
(http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-0552/6mgbi4fh8?a=view) 
and my personal experience, Solaris 10 runs on anything sun4u with CPU speed > 
200 MHz.


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