Re: SS2 with Boot 2.6

2006-05-12 Thread BERTRAND Joël

Blars Blarson a écrit :

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

	I never see any SMP bug on sparc64 after 2.6.14 release... While 
debian/Sparc uses a 32 bits userland, I don't understand why we have to 
cut the sparc port in sparc32 and sparc64 ports. Today, the main problem 
comes from the worst support of SMP in sparc32 kernel, from the ESPFAS 
(and its DMA trouble) and from the HyperSPARC cache.



My ultra-2 crashes randomly under high load with kernels as late as
2.6.17rc2.  "RED state exception" is what it gets, in the 2.6.17rc it
gets stuck in an infinite loop of them rather than rebooting.

Have you tried putting a high load on your system?  Compiling
openoffice and the kernel at the same time is the type of load being
discussed.


	I have a lot of sparc64 systems with high load (the load average of one 
of them, an Ultra60/SMP is 14 for the last day) and I have never seen 
this trouble.


kant:[~] > uptime
 08:31:17 up 103 days, 13:32,  31 user,  load average: 16.54, 12.07, 14.39
kant:[~] > cat /proc/cpuinfo
cpu : TI UltraSparc II  (BlackBird)
fpu : UltraSparc II integrated FPU
promlib : Version 3 Revision 23
prom: 3.23.1
type: sun4u
ncpus probed: 2
ncpus active: 2
D$ parity tl1   : 0
I$ parity tl1   : 0
Cpu0Bogo: 897.02
Cpu0ClkTck  : 1ad28548
Cpu2Bogo: 897.02
Cpu2ClkTck  : 1ad28548
MMU Type: Spitfire
State:
CPU0:   online
CPU2:   online
kant:[~] > uname -a
Linux kant 2.6.15.1-netfilter-route-patch #3 Fri Jan 27 13:21:49 CET 
2006 sparc64 GNU/Linux


Regards,

JKB


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Re: kernel panic during installation in specific module constellation (sun4u)

2006-05-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 21 April 2006 04:10, Karel Panek wrote:
> Debian installation process (from http://people.debian.org/~stappers/
> d-i/images/daily/sparc64/netboot/2.6/boot.img) hangs in the following
> module constellation:
>
> 0. (scsi core modules)
> 1. mptbase- loaded OK
> 2. mptscsih   - loaded OK
> 3. mptspi - loaded OK (attached disks are detected according to
> syslog but have not assigned to device specifiers yet)
> 4. sd_mod - KERNEL PANIC

This issue has been reported before and IIRC the relevant installation 
report was reassigned to the kernel (linux-2.6).


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Installation problems SPARCstation 5

2006-05-12 Thread Ryle Goehausen

Hello everyone. I'm rather new to Linux and SPARC in general, and I've
spent a while searching documentation everywhere I can to try and
find someone who has had a similar problem, but I just can't find any.
I know its generally discouraged to post requests for help without very
explicit information, but I can't figure out even how to get more
information about what is going wrong so I'll just try and describe it as
best I can.

A friend of a friend of mine was throwing away some old computer
stuff, and I managed to snag a free SPARCstation 5 from him. All it
had with it was some general documentation unrelated to whatever
specific architecture this computer was running, so I'm kind of out of
luck on technical specifications. It was pre-installed with Solaris, and
I've never used Solaris before and I really wanted rather to try and get a
Linux variant installed on it. I have had some limited experiences
screwing around with KNOPPIX / OpenWRT / Fedora Core 3 / Ubuntu
so I felt somewhat comfortable. I am however, still very new to Linux
and don't understand a lot of things - partly why I wanted to have an
extra computer around with Linux on it to improve my knowledge.

I went and got a Debian netinstall SPARC CD-Rom to put onto this
computer, but I'm having some problems finishing the install, and with
the install in general. When I booted up off the CD I did so with the
default boot, no special parameters invoked from the PROM boot
console. A bunch of text scrolled by indicating that the install was
beginning, and I noticed that there were a couple of errors popping up.

This appeared about 6-7 times in a row, and then the install would
just continue past it.

--
Setting up general console font... set_kernel_font: Function not
implemented. Failed 
--

I thought everything was going to be dandy until I got to the language
selection screen. The first thing that looked weird (I've never done a
Debian install before though so I'm not sure if it was supposed to be
weird) was that the 'borders' for the text selection box were made
entirely out of weird characters. The tops were lined with
 and the sides with small 3's. I figured this might be
just ASCII art until I started trying to select an option.

When I pressed the up or down button, instead of highlighting an
option, all the options remained unhighlighted and I saw a brief semi-
flash somewhere near the highlighting should have been. It's difficult
to describe because it looks rather odd, but its as if the place where
the highlighting should occur has been fragmented and spread out
sideways. Additionally, it only appears for a fraction of a second. Also,
somewhat related to this, the same effect occurs as some kind a kind
of a scan line that moves slowly down the screen before any text
screen appears. Like, I'll be ready to load the next screen of an
installation step, but before anything appears, this flashing blocky line
will scroll from the top to the bottom, dissapear, and then the text will
appear. Every time I press the up or down arrow that was what
appeared, except it didn't scan up or down - just flashed once.

I managed to get through the install by scrolling up to the uppermost
option, and then counting the number of down arrows I pressed til I
reached the option I wanted. It took a long time because I made some
mistakes, but I eventually was able to install everything successfully,
and DHCP worked fine.

Naturally of course, after installing I go to reboot. I thought that maybe
there was some pecularity with the install relating to the X-Windows
system or however video is being displayed, because I know my video
chip is 24-bit and it should be using the XSun24 X server, but I don't
know how to select or configure that.

When it finishes going through a long block of text and configurations
on the reboot, it finally gets to a big notice that basically says
"Welcome to your new Debian system.. here is a walkthrough, etc. etc.
" along with a button to hit OK. The only problem is: I can't hit the 
button. Pressing enter no longer works any more, and moving around
the arrow keys trying to select something or to highlight an option
doesn't work either. The borders are still all covered with
ÄÄÄ's and its the same weird looking video as the initial
install.

I went looking through all the docs I could find again to figure out any
possible way of booting up differently, or installing differently, but all I
could find was this:


Because of display problems on some systems, framebuffer
support is disabled by default for SPARC. This can result in ugly
display on systems that do properly support the framebuffer, like
those with ATI graphical cards. If you see display problems in the
installer, you can try booting with parameter debian-installer/
framebuffer=true.   


I have no idea how to boot up with that parameter, and I was thinking
of trying to reinstall and typing that in before I booted up off the
CDROM, but now when I t

Re: SS2 with Boot 2.6

2006-05-12 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>   I never see any SMP bug on sparc64 after 2.6.14 release... While 
>debian/Sparc uses a 32 bits userland, I don't understand why we have to 
>cut the sparc port in sparc32 and sparc64 ports. Today, the main problem 
>comes from the worst support of SMP in sparc32 kernel, from the ESPFAS 
>(and its DMA trouble) and from the HyperSPARC cache.

My ultra-2 crashes randomly under high load with kernels as late as
2.6.17rc2.  "RED state exception" is what it gets, in the 2.6.17rc it
gets stuck in an infinite loop of them rather than rebooting.

Have you tried putting a high load on your system?  Compiling
openoffice and the kernel at the same time is the type of load being
discussed.


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Re: SS2 with Boot 2.6

2006-05-12 Thread BERTRAND Joël

Blars Blarson a écrit :

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Can anyone tell me if Sarge can be installed on an SS2 (it will be a 
system logger) with Boot 2.6 ?  Or can I upgrade it to Open Boot ? If 
neither what is the newest version of SunOS or Saolaris that will run on 
it.  



debian-installer support sun4m and sun4u .  All tests that I am aware
of on sun4c failed, and there was not enough interest in debugging it
on sun4c.  I think it requires 24 or 32 megs of memory on sparc.

It should be possible to install woody then upgrade to sarge on a
sun4c machine.  


sparc is not currently scheduled for release with etch.  I've
sugjested dropping sun4m and keeping sun4u (aka sparc64) but the
sparc64 smp bug in 2.6 kernels is making the buildds unreliable.


	I never see any SMP bug on sparc64 after 2.6.14 release... While 
debian/Sparc uses a 32 bits userland, I don't understand why we have to 
cut the sparc port in sparc32 and sparc64 ports. Today, the main problem 
comes from the worst support of SMP in sparc32 kernel, from the ESPFAS 
(and its DMA trouble) and from the HyperSPARC cache.



IIRC solaris 7 was the last sun release to support sun4m.  sun4c may
have been discontinued earlier.


Last solaris release for sun4c -> 2.7
Last solaris release for sun4m -> 2.9

Regards,

JKB


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Re: SS2 with Boot 2.6

2006-05-12 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Can anyone tell me if Sarge can be installed on an SS2 (it will be a 
>system logger) with Boot 2.6 ?  Or can I upgrade it to Open Boot ? If 
>neither what is the newest version of SunOS or Saolaris that will run on 
>it.  

debian-installer support sun4m and sun4u .  All tests that I am aware
of on sun4c failed, and there was not enough interest in debugging it
on sun4c.  I think it requires 24 or 32 megs of memory on sparc.

It should be possible to install woody then upgrade to sarge on a
sun4c machine.  

sparc is not currently scheduled for release with etch.  I've
sugjested dropping sun4m and keeping sun4u (aka sparc64) but the
sparc64 smp bug in 2.6 kernels is making the buildds unreliable.

IIRC solaris 7 was the last sun release to support sun4m.  sun4c may
have been discontinued earlier.


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Re: SS2 with Boot 2.6

2006-05-12 Thread Chris Newport

Dieszel wrote:

   Can anyone tell me if Sarge can be installed on an SS2 (it will be 
a system logger) with Boot 2.6 ?  Or can I upgrade it to Open Boot ? 
If neither what is the newest version of SunOS or Saolaris that will 
run on it. 
Thanx


Your biggest problem is memory.
If you have 16 or 32Mb Solaris 2.6 is the limit
With 64Mb you can go up to Solaris 7.

64Mb is a full house of 4Mb SIMMs, which can be hard to find.

In general, Linux is horribly slow on Sun4c due to task switching 
issues, you would be better advised to stay with Solaris or BSD.




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Re: SS2 with Boot 2.6

2006-05-12 Thread Robert Waldner

On Fri, 12 May 2006 12:39:32 EDT, Dieszel writes:
>Can anyone tell me if Sarge can be installed on an SS2 (it will be a 
>system logger) with Boot 2.6 ?

Debian will run on sun4c (which the SS2 is) in general. F'rex, I've 
 installed Woody on an SS1+ (though this one runs OpenBSD now):
  ok .version
  Release 1.3
  Version 4 created 90/03/07 13:08:39
 and Sarge on an SS10:
  ok .version
  Release 2.12 Version 2 created 93/03/29 14:25:15
 so I'd guess your SS2 with 2.6 should be ok - as long as you have enough
 RAM for the installer.

AFAIK Debian's support for sun4c will run out once Sarge is no longer 
 the stable release, so you might want to consider that.

> Or can I upgrade it to Open Boot ?

No idea on that one.

cheers,
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SS2 with Boot 2.6

2006-05-12 Thread Dieszel
   Can anyone tell me if Sarge can be installed on an SS2 (it will be a 
system logger) with Boot 2.6 ?  Or can I upgrade it to Open Boot ? If 
neither what is the newest version of SunOS or Saolaris that will run on 
it.  


Thanx


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