Re: Etch installation on Sun Blade 100 - magic for /etc/silo.conf needed

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 01:34:44AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
 
 I guess you want something simple, like this:
 
 root=/dev/hda2
 partition=2
 default=Linux
 read-only
 timeout=100
 append= video=atyfb:off
 
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=Linux
 initrd=/boot/initrd.img
 
 The first parameter, root, specifies the device that should be mounted as
 root. It's no different from ix86, I guess. The partition parameter is the
 number of the partition that is implied in the /some/thing paths later in
 the file.

Andy *hugs* Josip :) That's what I needed: I'd ended up with a 
completely blank silo.conf. I wasn't sure whether I needed the
full scale @PCI magic stuff that you have to work out at an
OpenPROM prompt as the first line where it said root=
Not knowing whether SILO numbered partitions from 0 or 1, I'd ended up 
with an off-by-one error _as well_ :(

The OpenPROM is not immediately obvious - and not very well documented
if you do a random Google search. Ditto silo.conf - at least when you're 
under the time pressure/pressure of why doesn't the ###*??# thing work 
that you put yourself under :)

I think I can probably write this one off to experience: don't
do stuff without good 'Net access, don't do stuff in a relative hurry
on a Friday afternoon - ASK THE EXPERTS _FIRST_ :)
 
 After you edit, run silo to check the configuration.
 
I did - and it parsed it correctly.
It looks like I'd managed to produce a grammatically correct SILO 
configuration file that validated - but was wrongly phrased :(
 
Thanks again, 

Andy
 
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Re: Etch installation on Sun Blade 100 - magic for /etc/silo.conf needed

2007-05-08 Thread Hugh Pumphrey

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

Hello all,

A long and tortuous tale. A Sun Blade 100 which had a Debian Sarge 
installation on failed with initially lots of network errors 
occurring in the logs. An attempted upgrade in place to Etch failed for 
various reasons (mostly my user incompetence :( then the saga below 
followed.) [snipped]


Can anyone share the magic needed to get SILO to boot on one of these 
machines. Once we can boot it, we can amend silo.conf and carry on from 
there. A sarge bare basic install from CD ROM is also feasible if 
necessary.


Mine says:


 --
root=/dev/hda2
partition=1
default=Linux
read-only
timeout=100

### Note that for 2.6.18, the CD Rom needs ide=nodma or the boot process
### hangs at any one of several points where the CD is accessed.
### You can use hdparm  to turn DMA back on for the HDD once the system 
is up.


image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
initrd=/initrd.img
append=video=atyfb:off ide=nodma ### CDROM requires ide=nodma


image=/vmlinuz.old
label=LinuxOLD
initrd=/initrd.img.old

   --


This was a clean etch install only a few days ago. The ide=nodma 
business may be your problem


Hugh


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Re: Etch installation on Sun Blade 100 - magic for /etc/silo.conf needed

2007-05-08 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:12:08AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: I wasn't
 sure whether I needed the full scale @PCI magic stuff that you have to
 work out at an OpenPROM prompt as the first line where it said root=

Ah, yes, it's possible to use those long device strings, but it's not
necessary, usually the first bootable disk works fine ('boot disk' from
PROM).

 Not knowing whether SILO numbered partitions from 0 or 1, I'd ended up
 with an off-by-one error _as well_ :(

I tend to get confused by that as well - I have actually come to expect 0,
which used to be completely unintuitive to me in the past...

 The OpenPROM is not immediately obvious - and not very well documented
 if you do a random Google search. Ditto silo.conf - at least when you're 
 under the time pressure/pressure of why doesn't the ###*??# thing work 
 that you put yourself under :)

Hm, I agree for OpenPROM, but for silo.conf it's different - the first hit
on google for 'silo.conf' shows the manual page, and the full example is at
the bottom of the page.

Maybe it confused you that the example is very simple, you were expecting
something overly complicated? :)

 I think I can probably write this one off to experience: don't
 do stuff without good 'Net access, don't do stuff in a relative hurry
 on a Friday afternoon - ASK THE EXPERTS _FIRST_ :)

:)

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Re: Etch installation on Sun Blade 100 - magic for /etc/silo.conf needed

2007-05-08 Thread Emanuele Rocca
Hi Andrew,

* Andrew M.A. Cater [EMAIL PROTECTED], [2007-05-08  6:12 +]:
  The OpenPROM is not immediately obvious - and not very well documented
  if you do a random Google search. 

That's true, here's a couple of pointers:

OpenBoot 3.x Quick Reference
http://sunsolve.sun.com/data/802/802-3240/pdf/802-3240-10.pdf

OpenBoot 3.x Command Reference
http://sunsolve.sun.com/data/802/802-3242/html/TOC.html

OpenBoot 3.x Supplement for PCI
http://sunsolve.sun.com/data/802/802-7679/pdf/

ciao,
ema


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smlnj on sparc

2007-05-08 Thread Kari Pahula
Please CC me, I'm not subscribed.

smlnj-110.62-1 should be buildable on sparc, but it's still in
dep-wait state.  Could someone please check on the package?


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The 'Illegal instruction' problem occurs unless ...

2007-05-08 Thread Geert Stappers

For your information

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On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 01:08:33PM -0700, dat wrote:
 As requested ( section 3.2 of 
 http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/sparc/release-notes/ch-installing.en.html#s-sparc_illegal_instruction
  )...
 
 You can add Enterprise 220R boxes to the list. The 'Illegal instruction'
 problem occurs unless system is powered down and then booted directly
 from cdrom without allowing solaris to begin to boot.

Thanks for the info.

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Re: The 'Illegal instruction' problem occurs unless ...

2007-05-08 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:25:45PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote:
 For your information

Oh yeah... I thanked him and added to the file in CVS which generates:

http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/sparc/release-notes/ch-installing.en.html#s-sparc_illegal_instruction

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Re: Java for Iceape

2007-05-08 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
 
 What package should I be using to tack Java onto Iceape in an off-the-shelf
 Etch for SPARC?

Apologies for answering my own question, but just in case it's ever useful to
anybody else.

sun-java5-jre appears to be broken by an ia32 dependency. I backed out of Kaffe
after spotting java-gcj-compat-plugin which appears designed for the job, i.e.
no fiddling with manual symlinks. Runs the VNC viewer applet,
http://mindprod.com/applets/unicode.html and wassup.html

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