Re: Retiring the sparc32 port
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:18:00 +0200, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 15 July 2007 03:53, Austin Denyer wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:57 -0700, Steven Ringwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] I, for one, will be sorry to see it go, as I actively use my SS10's and 20's. Anyone know of any other Linux distros out there that support the Sparc32 architecture, or am I going to have to look into something like NetBSD going forward? I too will be sad to see it go. I love my SS5... Hi Steven and Denyer, We are *also* sad to see sparc32 go, but these kinds of messages are only a repeat of similar reactions on earlier threads. What we need to sparc32 alive - not only in Debian, but in Linux in general - is not people who are sad, but people who are willing to invest time and energy to fix the issues there are, to make sure sparc32 is supported in the software (kernel, toolchain, whatever) and who are committed to _keeping_ it maintained. Being sad unfortunately does not help with that at all. As to alternatives, what you should be looking for is somewhere where there is a vibrant sparc32 community, including people who are not just sad, but who are actually doing work to maintain the port. I have no idea if NetBSD has such a community or not. I fully understand what you're saying. The problem is that it would appear that most of the people who USE the sparc32 port are not the people who have the skills to develop it. I count myself in that group. I am not a C hacker - I wish I was. I would give my right arm to be able to support the project with code. Oh well... Regards, Ozz. - -- Computers are like air conditioners... They stop working when you open Windows. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGmlo6FhXEj1ek1EMRArJdAKCE7OVA9CNxz8yMvhKF4rT2CIBS5gCeID6e 86mQZDFwTMUN5PjSzRk4GHc= =WLGf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Retiring the sparc32 port
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:57 -0700, Steven Ringwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jurij Smakov wrote: If there are no last-minute objections, I would like to make an official announcement on d-d-a that Debian is dropping support for sparc32 for lenny within the next couple of days. I, for one, will be sorry to see it go, as I actively use my SS10's and 20's. Anyone know of any other Linux distros out there that support the Sparc32 architecture, or am I going to have to look into something like NetBSD going forward? I too will be sad to see it go. I love my SS5... Regards, Ozz. - -- Computers are like air conditioners... They stop working when you open Windows. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGmX48FhXEj1ek1EMRAi5qAJ0UyG89kHEavMO0+dBCVuTCdIRkZgCgx3k+ lTTdI/R9Cxf7OMp//FBgC3g= =4p8v -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: sparc32 and sparc64-only packages
On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 17:08:08 +, Mark Morgan Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. SPARC-32 might still have its place as an introduction for people with no experience of Sun machines if that's all they can get hold of, but I can't see anybody in their right mind expecting to run fancy animated graphics on it. It all depends what you use the box for. I run IceWM on my 170MHz SPARCstation 5. I agree that it's not suited for watching movies, etc, but it's still a useful box. Regards, Ozz. pgp51AjsIa9dG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sparc developer machines
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:51:45 -0800 (PST), Jurij Smakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your offer. As the future of the sparc32 port is uncertain at best, the machines must most certainly be sparc64. Ouch - I use Sparc32 myself. If Sparc32 was ok, I could possibly provide access to such a box. The company I work for is, among other things, a local ISP, so we have plenty of bandwidth. Most of our hardware is AMD/Intel, but we do have some Sparc systems that I could possibly make available. Regards, Ozz. pgpQowCe0Dupy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Install to sparc 20 without video ??
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:03:44 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew M.A. Cater) wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:49:25AM +0100, Marc Coevoet wrote: Is it possible without a Sun monitor to install ?? I mean: I could login via the network ... Serial console onto serial port: use minicom at the other end Send 9600,8,N,1 data That should do it - I've done similar on an Alpha machine. I installed Debian on a SPARCstation 5 that way, too. Regards, Ozz. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sparc requalification for Etch
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 14:22:50 -0400, Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The page exists at http://wiki.debian.org/sparcEtchReleaseRecertification Someone should fill it in. I note that it only lists 89 sites using Debian-SPARC. How do we go about adding our own sites to it? We run it ourselves on quite a few servers (Fire v210, etc.), and want to migrate our remaining SUN boxen to Debian, but we have obvious concerns about the level of support for the arch. I even run it at home on my SS5. As long as we know the arch is not gonna go away, and will remain supported, it will be a lot easier to get more people using it. At the moment, I feel that many people are being put off by the existing issues with the port. At the moment, installing Debian on a v210 is painful. Regards, Ozz. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
