Re: AW: [sun]debian

2007-06-15 Thread Steve Pacenka
On Thursday 14 June 2007 01:25, Jurzitza, Dieter wrote:
 Hi folks,
 in case of U60 I can only confirm what Steve said, U60 is a great box for
 installing Debian. To connect a normal PC-Style monitor to your system
 you might want to consider a Raritan Sun VGA-Converter 13W3- D-Sub 15.
 Saves lots of headaches (though you won't get it for free). It is called
 Adapter:1395. Hope this helps,
 take care

Good day,

Dieter's suggestion is a good extra option.  I've also been able to use 
13W3-to-HD15 adapters to make PC multisync monitors work on Suns.   

This was painful until I learned to set the Sun video card's resolution to 
1024x768 at a 70-76 Hz refresh rate before trying the PC monitor.  The Suns 
were sending a video resolution (1120x900 at over 75 Hz refresh?) that was 
outside the syncing capability of every HD15 multisync monitor I had.

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AW: [sun]debian

2007-06-13 Thread Jurzitza, Dieter
Hi folks,
in case of U60 I can only confirm what Steve said, U60 is a great box for 
installing Debian.
To connect a normal PC-Style monitor to your system you might want to 
consider a Raritan Sun VGA-Converter 13W3- D-Sub 15. Saves lots of headaches 
(though you won't get it for free). It is called Adapter:1395.
Hope this helps,
take care



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Re: [sun]debian : setup

2007-06-12 Thread Martin
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 22:17 +0200, Eric Rapilly wrote:
 Hi there; For my Debian on sun, I need some informations, because I'm 
 not familiar with debian;
You might find that a general purpose Debian mailing list or guide is of
more use for this kind of question.  Debian is remarkably uniform across
architectures, so what works on x86 will likely work on SPARC (with the
obvious exceptions).

 1 ° how to setup a fixed IP address ?
 2° how to indicate the IP address of the gateway, which I use to go on 
 internet
See interfaces(5), the man page for /etc/network/interfaces.  Or use
$YOURFAVOURITENETWORKGUI.

Cheers,
 - Martin






Re: [OT] [sun]debian : setup

2007-06-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 22:17, Eric Rapilly wrote:
 Hi there; For my Debian on sun, I need some informations, because I'm
 not familiar with debian;
 1 ° how to setup a fixed IP address ?
 2° how to indicate the IP address of the gateway, which I use to go on
 internet

Note that this question is in no way specific to sparc. As such it is 
really off-topic for this mailing list. Please use a general user mailing 
list instead next time (or even better, read some basic documentation 
first)!

The short answer: 'man interfaces'

As a slightly longer answer, this example config:
$ cat /etc/network/interfaces
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 10.19.66.10
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 10.19.66.0
broadcast 10.19.66.255
gatway 10.19.66.1

Cheers,
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[sun]debian

2007-06-06 Thread Eric Rapilly
I have some questions, may be you wille be able to answer me. I will 
receive soon a sun ultra 60;
But there is few memory. I want to know which kind of RAM is installed 
on the motherboard: is it ECC SDRAM or NVRAM?

What is the video connector : sub -D 15 or 13w3 ?
where could I find the  latest Debian ETCH for sparc ?
many thanks.


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Re: [sun]debian

2007-06-06 Thread Martin
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 11:23 +0200, Eric Rapilly wrote:
 I have some questions, may be you wille be able to answer me. I will 
 receive soon a sun ultra 60;
 But there is few memory. I want to know which kind of RAM is installed 
 on the motherboard: is it ECC SDRAM or NVRAM?
SDRAM and NVRAM are very different kinds of memory.  NVRAM is a very
small amount of non volatile (i.e. doesn't get wiped when the system
powers down) memory used to save OpenBoot (like a BIOS but properly
designed and well thought out) settings.  It is completely different and
separate from the system RAM.  Note that the Ultra 60 takes 200-pin Sun
RAM; not PC compatable RAM (owners of Ultra 5's and Ultra 10's claim
mixed success in using PC RAM; like PCI USB cards, it can be made to
work but YMMV).  See:

http://www.sunstuff.org/hardware/

 What is the video connector : sub -D 15 or 13w3 ?
Depends on what graphics card it has installed.  Could be either.

 where could I find the  latest Debian ETCH for sparc ?
In a similar place to Debian for other architectures:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch01s04.html.en
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch02s02.html.en
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch04.html.en

note that downloading all of the CDs is unlikely to be necessary.  If
you have a reasonably fast net connection, just download the net install
CD and use that.

Cheers,
 - Martin



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Re: [sun]debian

2007-05-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello John,

Am 2007-04-29 16:04:56, schrieb John Zbesko:
 BTW, your description of what is wrong with the CDROM doesn't sound
 quite right. I've used K3B to burn images for my Ultra 1 that work fine-
 but remember, the CDROM should be burned at the lowest speed possible.
 Don't exactly know why, but this has been written about time after
 time. 

If you burn slower (4x is optimal) you give the LASER more time
to burn which increase automaticaly the quality of the burned CD.

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[sun]debian

2007-04-29 Thread Eric Rapilly
Hi, ladies and gentlemen . I could'nt install Debian on my SUn SPARC
ULTRA 1, because the crom has benn written with K3B under Fedora core 5,
i.e with the ISO 9660 format, which unknown by the SUN OS ver 5.5.1. 
Thus, I believe the only thing to do, is to transfer Debian from fedora
to the sun, but for this, I have to install an net between these two
computerFor this, I nedd your help, because the ifconfig man page on
the SUN OS is very confusing for me . The IP address (inet Address) is
correct , and in the same net and subnet as the one of the fedora core
machine. But nevertheless, I can't ping neither nmap the sun machine
from my fedora machine; I believe in missed an option, like plumb
which appaers to be used to associate hm0 device (i;e eth0) to the inet
address; 
How to use this option ? and how to enter a gateway ?? many thanks



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Re: [sun]debian

2007-04-29 Thread Martin
On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:51 +0200, Eric Rapilly wrote:
 Hi, ladies and gentlemen . I could'nt install Debian on my SUn SPARC
 ULTRA 1, because the crom has benn written with K3B under Fedora core 5,
 i.e with the ISO 9660 format, which unknown by the SUN OS ver 5.5.1. 
If you're looking to install Debian then you shouldn't need to go near
Sun OS.  Just get OpenBoot to boot from CD and install from there.

 Thus, I believe the only thing to do, is to transfer Debian from fedora
 to the sun,
It is possible to install Debian from a running UNIX but I'd advise
against it.  I've seen some very smart people pull this trick and
successfully install over the system they were running but I really
wouldn't recommend trying it.  Installing from CD is buch easier.

  but for this, I have to install an net between these two
 computerFor this, I nedd your help, because the ifconfig man page on
 the SUN OS is very confusing for me . The IP address (inet Address) is
 correct , and in the same net and subnet as the one of the fedora core
 machine. But nevertheless, I can't ping neither nmap the sun machine
 from my fedora machine; I believe in missed an option, like plumb
 which appaers to be used to associate hm0 device (i;e eth0) to the inet
 address; 
 How to use this option ? and how to enter a gateway ?? many thanks
Networking questions about Sun OS are a little off topic here; plus IMHO
that's the wrong direction is you just want to do a basic install.  Have
a read of the rather spiffing install guide - it's pretty straight
forward.

Cheers,
 - Martin



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Re: [sun]debian

2007-04-29 Thread John Zbesko
This may be obvious, but make sure if you are directly connecting the
two computers together that you use a cross-over ethernet cable. If you
use a hub, switch or router between the two machines, regular ethernet
cables are fine. But between two computers, one set of paired wires must
cross-over to a different position, i.e. so the out signal from one
computer communicates with the in set on the other. 

BTW, your description of what is wrong with the CDROM doesn't sound
quite right. I've used K3B to burn images for my Ultra 1 that work fine-
but remember, the CDROM should be burned at the lowest speed possible.
Don't exactly know why, but this has been written about time after
time. 

On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:51 +0200, Eric Rapilly wrote:
 Hi, ladies and gentlemen . I could'nt install Debian on my SUn SPARC
 ULTRA 1, because the crom has benn written with K3B under Fedora core 5,
 i.e with the ISO 9660 format, which unknown by the SUN OS ver 5.5.1. 
 Thus, I believe the only thing to do, is to transfer Debian from fedora
 to the sun, but for this, I have to install an net between these two
 computerFor this, I nedd your help, because the ifconfig man page on
 the SUN OS is very confusing for me . The IP address (inet Address) is
 correct , and in the same net and subnet as the one of the fedora core
 machine. But nevertheless, I can't ping neither nmap the sun machine
 from my fedora machine; I believe in missed an option, like plumb
 which appaers to be used to associate hm0 device (i;e eth0) to the inet
 address; 
 How to use this option ? and how to enter a gateway ?? many thanks
 
 
 


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Re: [sun]debian

2007-04-05 Thread Jurij Smakov
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On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 12:23:11PM -0600, Wenton L. Davis wrote:

 For what (little) it's worth, when I came across a pair of E4500s last
 year, I compared Aurora with debian.nbsp; I had trouble with both
 installations, but the debian list was extremely helpful and
 supportive.nbsp; (Thanks all!)nbsp; The Aurora list never responded.nbsp; 
 To date,
 I still have not accomplished a successful installation of Aurora, but
 both E4500s are running debian beautifully!!!nbsp; (Just wish I could pay
 the electric bill!)br

If you are running etch on these machines, could you please comment on 
bug #417629? Does it really fail with the latest etch kernel? Is 
qla1280 the correct driver for the disks in these machines?

Thanks,
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Re: [sun]debian

2007-04-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-23 13:24:23, schrieb Jim:
 On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:59:27AM +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote:
 
  hello, I have problems to install debian on my SUN Ultra 1.
 
 Hi Eric,
 
 I think this was your first mistake:
 
  I downloaded on My fedora the images to install through the net, 
 
 Fedora and Debian are different distributions of Linux, so if you want
 to install Debian then Fedora images are no use.

Ehm, I thin HE HAS ad Fedora workstation and downloaded the Debian-
CD-Images and burned it...  and was not able to boot the Debian-CD-Images.

AFAIK does RedHat not support SPARC.

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Re: [sun]debian

2007-04-04 Thread Chris Andrew

All,

I prefer GNU/debian solutins, but Aurora may be of interest to RPM lovers:

http://auroralinux.org/

This may be an anti-debian comment, but GPL is GPL (well V.2 is :-) ).

Cheers,

Chris.

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Am 2007-03-23 13:24:23, schrieb Jim:
 On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:59:27AM +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote:

  hello, I have problems to install debian on my SUN Ultra 1.

 Hi Eric,

 I think this was your first mistake:

  I downloaded on My fedora the images to install through the net,

 Fedora and Debian are different distributions of Linux, so if you want
 to install Debian then Fedora images are no use.

Ehm, I thin HE HAS ad Fedora workstation and downloaded the Debian-
CD-Images and burned it...  and was not able to boot the Debian-CD-Images.

AFAIK does RedHat not support SPARC.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Re: [sun]debian

2007-04-04 Thread Wenton L. Davis




For what (little) it's worth, when I came across a pair of E4500s last
year, I compared Aurora with debian. I had trouble with both
installations, but the debian list was extremely helpful and
supportive. (Thanks all!) The Aurora list never responded. To date,
I still have not accomplished a successful installation of Aurora, but
both E4500s are running debian beautifully!!! (Just wish I could pay
the electric bill!)

Wenton

Chris Andrew wrote:
All,
  
I prefer GNU/debian solutins, but Aurora may be of interest to RPM
lovers:
  
  http://auroralinux.org/
  
This may be an anti-debian comment, but GPL is GPL (well V.2 is :-) ).
  
Cheers,
  
Chris.
  
  On 04/04/07, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  
  Am
2007-03-23 13:24:23, schrieb Jim:
 On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:59:27AM +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote:


  hello, I have problems to install debian on my SUN Ultra 1.

 Hi Eric,

 I think this was your first mistake:

  I downloaded on My fedora the images to install through the
net,


 Fedora and Debian are different distributions of Linux, so if you
want
 to install Debian then Fedora images are no use.

Ehm, I thin HE HAS ad Fedora workstation and downloaded the Debian-
CD-Images and burned it...and was not able to boot the
Debian-CD-Images.

AFAIK does RedHat not support SPARC.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network

Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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[sun]debian

2007-03-25 Thread Eric Rapilly
No wonder if I can't install debian on my SUN, neither with a cdrom
containing boot by the net, nore with a cdrom containing the full OS,
apparently, I don't have an SCSI CDROM working fine !!  I give them the
n° 6 id, I setup a treminator; but when I boot the system, no device
with ID 6 appears !!! 
I don't know well at- all the SUN OS 5.5.1, thus, if someone could give
me the accurate procedure to setup the SUN to go to the net, through the
gateway whose I know the IP address, I will appreciate. Thanks anyway,
and have a nice sunday



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[sun]debian

2007-03-23 Thread Eric Rapilly
hello, I have problems to install debian on my SUN Ultra 1. I downloaded
on My fedora the images to install through the net, , I wrote a bootable
Cdrom with K3B wrietr software, but on the linux, when I type stop +A
and then boot cdrom the answer is can't find any boot device So, I
don't know how to install Debien on my SUn. Is tehre anyone who can help
me ?



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Re: [sun]debian

2007-03-23 Thread Jim
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:59:27AM +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote:

 hello, I have problems to install debian on my SUN Ultra 1.

Hi Eric,

I think this was your first mistake:

 I downloaded on My fedora the images to install through the net, 

Fedora and Debian are different distributions of Linux, so if you want
to install Debian then Fedora images are no use.

I think that your first need to decide which distribution you want.  If
you decide on Debian, then this page has links to debian images:

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

If you decide on Fedora, then this mailing list is no help - you need to
find a Fedora mailing list instead.

Good luck,
Jim


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[sun]debian

2007-03-23 Thread Eric Rapilly
If I can't boot from a Cdrom written on a fedora, is there a good way to
install Debian on my SUN ? If no, what shall I do to install Debian on
my SUN



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Re: [sun]debian

2007-03-23 Thread Jim
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 03:36:01PM +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote:
 If I can't boot from a Cdrom written on a fedora, is there a good way to
 install Debian on my SUN ? If no, what shall I do to install Debian on
 my SUN

Hi Eric,

You should read on the web about doing a network install.  In brief, you
set up another machine on your network with a boot image, and then
configure the Sun box to download this image instead of booting from the
CD.

This is done from the OpenPROM so there is no need to have a working OS
on the machine already.

You can probably find all the information you need with google, but this
might get you started.

http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/sparc/

In particular, section 4.4.

Regards,
Jim


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Re: [sun]debian

2007-03-23 Thread Martin
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 15:36 +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote:
 If I can't boot from a Cdrom written on a fedora,
What distro the CD is written on shouldn't matter - provided it is
written correctly (you did check the md5sum).  Note that some Windows
burners `helpfully' pad iso images; thus always giving incorrect md5sum;
even for correctly written CDs.

  is there a good way to
 install Debian on my SUN ? If no, what shall I do to install Debian on
 my SUN
Judging by the least thread you posted here the problem is that OpenBoot
(the firmware; kind of like what the PC's BIOS would be if it was
properly designed) can't find the cdrom device.  'cdrom' is usually an
alias (like a symlink) for the SCSI cdrom.  It's possible the alias is
missing or that a hardware change means that it's not in the expected
place.  Have a look at an OpenBoot reference for how to change the alias
or how to specify where in OpenBoot's 'filesystem' the cd drive is.

HTH

Cheers,
 - Martin



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Re: [sun]debian

2007-03-23 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Eric Rapilly wrote:
 
 If I can't boot from a Cdrom written on a fedora, is there a good way to
 install Debian on my SUN ? If no, what shall I do to install Debian on
 my SUN

If you can't boot /why/? What version are you trying to boot, on what sort of
machine, and what exactly is happening?

In extremis I've been able to boot over a LAN when I can't from CD.

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