Re: AW: [sun]debian
On Thursday 14 June 2007 01:25, Jurzitza, Dieter wrote: Hi folks, in case of U60 I can only confirm what Steve said, U60 is a great box for installing Debian. To connect a normal PC-Style monitor to your system you might want to consider a Raritan Sun VGA-Converter 13W3- D-Sub 15. Saves lots of headaches (though you won't get it for free). It is called Adapter:1395. Hope this helps, take care Good day, Dieter's suggestion is a good extra option. I've also been able to use 13W3-to-HD15 adapters to make PC multisync monitors work on Suns. This was painful until I learned to set the Sun video card's resolution to 1024x768 at a 70-76 Hz refresh rate before trying the PC monitor. The Suns were sending a video resolution (1120x900 at over 75 Hz refresh?) that was outside the syncing capability of every HD15 multisync monitor I had. -- SP Dieter -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Steve Pacenka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Do 14.06.2007 02:59 An: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Cc: Betreff: Re: [sun]debian On Wednesday 06 June 2007 05:23, Eric Rapilly wrote: I have some questions, may be you wille be able to answer me. I will * *** Harman Becker Automotive Systems GmbH Geschaeftsfuehrung: Dr. Peter Geiselhart - Michael Mauser - William S. Palin - Edwin Summers - Regis Baudot Sitz der Gesellschaft: Karlsbad - Registergericht: Mannheim HRB 361395 *** Diese E-Mail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und loeschen Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the contents in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ***
AW: [sun]debian
Hi folks, in case of U60 I can only confirm what Steve said, U60 is a great box for installing Debian. To connect a normal PC-Style monitor to your system you might want to consider a Raritan Sun VGA-Converter 13W3- D-Sub 15. Saves lots of headaches (though you won't get it for free). It is called Adapter:1395. Hope this helps, take care Dieter -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:Steve Pacenka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Do 14.06.2007 02:59 An: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Cc: Betreff:Re: [sun]debian On Wednesday 06 June 2007 05:23, Eric Rapilly wrote: I have some questions, may be you wille be able to answer me. I will * *** Harman Becker Automotive Systems GmbH Geschaeftsfuehrung: Dr. Peter Geiselhart - Michael Mauser - William S. Palin - Edwin Summers - Regis Baudot Sitz der Gesellschaft: Karlsbad - Registergericht: Mannheim HRB 361395 *** Diese E-Mail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und loeschen Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the contents in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ***
Re: [sun]debian : setup
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 22:17 +0200, Eric Rapilly wrote: Hi there; For my Debian on sun, I need some informations, because I'm not familiar with debian; You might find that a general purpose Debian mailing list or guide is of more use for this kind of question. Debian is remarkably uniform across architectures, so what works on x86 will likely work on SPARC (with the obvious exceptions). 1 ° how to setup a fixed IP address ? 2° how to indicate the IP address of the gateway, which I use to go on internet See interfaces(5), the man page for /etc/network/interfaces. Or use $YOURFAVOURITENETWORKGUI. Cheers, - Martin
Re: [OT] [sun]debian : setup
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 22:17, Eric Rapilly wrote: Hi there; For my Debian on sun, I need some informations, because I'm not familiar with debian; 1 ° how to setup a fixed IP address ? 2° how to indicate the IP address of the gateway, which I use to go on internet Note that this question is in no way specific to sparc. As such it is really off-topic for this mailing list. Please use a general user mailing list instead next time (or even better, read some basic documentation first)! The short answer: 'man interfaces' As a slightly longer answer, this example config: $ cat /etc/network/interfaces # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 10.19.66.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 10.19.66.0 broadcast 10.19.66.255 gatway 10.19.66.1 Cheers, FJP pgpN46zfacJ0l.pgp Description: PGP signature
[sun]debian
I have some questions, may be you wille be able to answer me. I will receive soon a sun ultra 60; But there is few memory. I want to know which kind of RAM is installed on the motherboard: is it ECC SDRAM or NVRAM? What is the video connector : sub -D 15 or 13w3 ? where could I find the latest Debian ETCH for sparc ? many thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sun]debian
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 11:23 +0200, Eric Rapilly wrote: I have some questions, may be you wille be able to answer me. I will receive soon a sun ultra 60; But there is few memory. I want to know which kind of RAM is installed on the motherboard: is it ECC SDRAM or NVRAM? SDRAM and NVRAM are very different kinds of memory. NVRAM is a very small amount of non volatile (i.e. doesn't get wiped when the system powers down) memory used to save OpenBoot (like a BIOS but properly designed and well thought out) settings. It is completely different and separate from the system RAM. Note that the Ultra 60 takes 200-pin Sun RAM; not PC compatable RAM (owners of Ultra 5's and Ultra 10's claim mixed success in using PC RAM; like PCI USB cards, it can be made to work but YMMV). See: http://www.sunstuff.org/hardware/ What is the video connector : sub -D 15 or 13w3 ? Depends on what graphics card it has installed. Could be either. where could I find the latest Debian ETCH for sparc ? In a similar place to Debian for other architectures: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch01s04.html.en http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch02s02.html.en http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch04.html.en note that downloading all of the CDs is unlikely to be necessary. If you have a reasonably fast net connection, just download the net install CD and use that. Cheers, - Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sun]debian
Hello John, Am 2007-04-29 16:04:56, schrieb John Zbesko: BTW, your description of what is wrong with the CDROM doesn't sound quite right. I've used K3B to burn images for my Ultra 1 that work fine- but remember, the CDROM should be burned at the lowest speed possible. Don't exactly know why, but this has been written about time after time. If you burn slower (4x is optimal) you give the LASER more time to burn which increase automaticaly the quality of the burned CD. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
[sun]debian
Hi, ladies and gentlemen . I could'nt install Debian on my SUn SPARC ULTRA 1, because the crom has benn written with K3B under Fedora core 5, i.e with the ISO 9660 format, which unknown by the SUN OS ver 5.5.1. Thus, I believe the only thing to do, is to transfer Debian from fedora to the sun, but for this, I have to install an net between these two computerFor this, I nedd your help, because the ifconfig man page on the SUN OS is very confusing for me . The IP address (inet Address) is correct , and in the same net and subnet as the one of the fedora core machine. But nevertheless, I can't ping neither nmap the sun machine from my fedora machine; I believe in missed an option, like plumb which appaers to be used to associate hm0 device (i;e eth0) to the inet address; How to use this option ? and how to enter a gateway ?? many thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sun]debian
On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:51 +0200, Eric Rapilly wrote: Hi, ladies and gentlemen . I could'nt install Debian on my SUn SPARC ULTRA 1, because the crom has benn written with K3B under Fedora core 5, i.e with the ISO 9660 format, which unknown by the SUN OS ver 5.5.1. If you're looking to install Debian then you shouldn't need to go near Sun OS. Just get OpenBoot to boot from CD and install from there. Thus, I believe the only thing to do, is to transfer Debian from fedora to the sun, It is possible to install Debian from a running UNIX but I'd advise against it. I've seen some very smart people pull this trick and successfully install over the system they were running but I really wouldn't recommend trying it. Installing from CD is buch easier. but for this, I have to install an net between these two computerFor this, I nedd your help, because the ifconfig man page on the SUN OS is very confusing for me . The IP address (inet Address) is correct , and in the same net and subnet as the one of the fedora core machine. But nevertheless, I can't ping neither nmap the sun machine from my fedora machine; I believe in missed an option, like plumb which appaers to be used to associate hm0 device (i;e eth0) to the inet address; How to use this option ? and how to enter a gateway ?? many thanks Networking questions about Sun OS are a little off topic here; plus IMHO that's the wrong direction is you just want to do a basic install. Have a read of the rather spiffing install guide - it's pretty straight forward. Cheers, - Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sun]debian
This may be obvious, but make sure if you are directly connecting the two computers together that you use a cross-over ethernet cable. If you use a hub, switch or router between the two machines, regular ethernet cables are fine. But between two computers, one set of paired wires must cross-over to a different position, i.e. so the out signal from one computer communicates with the in set on the other. BTW, your description of what is wrong with the CDROM doesn't sound quite right. I've used K3B to burn images for my Ultra 1 that work fine- but remember, the CDROM should be burned at the lowest speed possible. Don't exactly know why, but this has been written about time after time. On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:51 +0200, Eric Rapilly wrote: Hi, ladies and gentlemen . I could'nt install Debian on my SUn SPARC ULTRA 1, because the crom has benn written with K3B under Fedora core 5, i.e with the ISO 9660 format, which unknown by the SUN OS ver 5.5.1. Thus, I believe the only thing to do, is to transfer Debian from fedora to the sun, but for this, I have to install an net between these two computerFor this, I nedd your help, because the ifconfig man page on the SUN OS is very confusing for me . The IP address (inet Address) is correct , and in the same net and subnet as the one of the fedora core machine. But nevertheless, I can't ping neither nmap the sun machine from my fedora machine; I believe in missed an option, like plumb which appaers to be used to associate hm0 device (i;e eth0) to the inet address; How to use this option ? and how to enter a gateway ?? many thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sun]debian
[Please try not to send HTML email to the lists] On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 12:23:11PM -0600, Wenton L. Davis wrote: For what (little) it's worth, when I came across a pair of E4500s last year, I compared Aurora with debian.nbsp; I had trouble with both installations, but the debian list was extremely helpful and supportive.nbsp; (Thanks all!)nbsp; The Aurora list never responded.nbsp; To date, I still have not accomplished a successful installation of Aurora, but both E4500s are running debian beautifully!!!nbsp; (Just wish I could pay the electric bill!)br If you are running etch on these machines, could you please comment on bug #417629? Does it really fail with the latest etch kernel? Is qla1280 the correct driver for the disks in these machines? Thanks, -- Jurij Smakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key: http://www.wooyd.org/pgpkey/ KeyID: C99E03CC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sun]debian
Am 2007-03-23 13:24:23, schrieb Jim: On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:59:27AM +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote: hello, I have problems to install debian on my SUN Ultra 1. Hi Eric, I think this was your first mistake: I downloaded on My fedora the images to install through the net, Fedora and Debian are different distributions of Linux, so if you want to install Debian then Fedora images are no use. Ehm, I thin HE HAS ad Fedora workstation and downloaded the Debian- CD-Images and burned it... and was not able to boot the Debian-CD-Images. AFAIK does RedHat not support SPARC. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: [sun]debian
All, I prefer GNU/debian solutins, but Aurora may be of interest to RPM lovers: http://auroralinux.org/ This may be an anti-debian comment, but GPL is GPL (well V.2 is :-) ). Cheers, Chris. On 04/04/07, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2007-03-23 13:24:23, schrieb Jim: On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:59:27AM +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote: hello, I have problems to install debian on my SUN Ultra 1. Hi Eric, I think this was your first mistake: I downloaded on My fedora the images to install through the net, Fedora and Debian are different distributions of Linux, so if you want to install Debian then Fedora images are no use. Ehm, I thin HE HAS ad Fedora workstation and downloaded the Debian- CD-Images and burned it... and was not able to boot the Debian-CD-Images. AFAIK does RedHat not support SPARC. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)
Re: [sun]debian
For what (little) it's worth, when I came across a pair of E4500s last year, I compared Aurora with debian. I had trouble with both installations, but the debian list was extremely helpful and supportive. (Thanks all!) The Aurora list never responded. To date, I still have not accomplished a successful installation of Aurora, but both E4500s are running debian beautifully!!! (Just wish I could pay the electric bill!) Wenton Chris Andrew wrote: All, I prefer GNU/debian solutins, but Aurora may be of interest to RPM lovers: http://auroralinux.org/ This may be an anti-debian comment, but GPL is GPL (well V.2 is :-) ). Cheers, Chris. On 04/04/07, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2007-03-23 13:24:23, schrieb Jim: On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:59:27AM +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote: hello, I have problems to install debian on my SUN Ultra 1. Hi Eric, I think this was your first mistake: I downloaded on My fedora the images to install through the net, Fedora and Debian are different distributions of Linux, so if you want to install Debian then Fedora images are no use. Ehm, I thin HE HAS ad Fedora workstation and downloaded the Debian- CD-Images and burned it...and was not able to boot the Debian-CD-Images. AFAIK does RedHat not support SPARC. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sun]debian
No wonder if I can't install debian on my SUN, neither with a cdrom containing boot by the net, nore with a cdrom containing the full OS, apparently, I don't have an SCSI CDROM working fine !! I give them the n° 6 id, I setup a treminator; but when I boot the system, no device with ID 6 appears !!! I don't know well at- all the SUN OS 5.5.1, thus, if someone could give me the accurate procedure to setup the SUN to go to the net, through the gateway whose I know the IP address, I will appreciate. Thanks anyway, and have a nice sunday -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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hello, I have problems to install debian on my SUN Ultra 1. I downloaded on My fedora the images to install through the net, , I wrote a bootable Cdrom with K3B wrietr software, but on the linux, when I type stop +A and then boot cdrom the answer is can't find any boot device So, I don't know how to install Debien on my SUn. Is tehre anyone who can help me ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sun]debian
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:59:27AM +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote: hello, I have problems to install debian on my SUN Ultra 1. Hi Eric, I think this was your first mistake: I downloaded on My fedora the images to install through the net, Fedora and Debian are different distributions of Linux, so if you want to install Debian then Fedora images are no use. I think that your first need to decide which distribution you want. If you decide on Debian, then this page has links to debian images: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ If you decide on Fedora, then this mailing list is no help - you need to find a Fedora mailing list instead. Good luck, Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If I can't boot from a Cdrom written on a fedora, is there a good way to install Debian on my SUN ? If no, what shall I do to install Debian on my SUN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sun]debian
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 03:36:01PM +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote: If I can't boot from a Cdrom written on a fedora, is there a good way to install Debian on my SUN ? If no, what shall I do to install Debian on my SUN Hi Eric, You should read on the web about doing a network install. In brief, you set up another machine on your network with a boot image, and then configure the Sun box to download this image instead of booting from the CD. This is done from the OpenPROM so there is no need to have a working OS on the machine already. You can probably find all the information you need with google, but this might get you started. http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/sparc/ In particular, section 4.4. Regards, Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sun]debian
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 15:36 +0100, Eric Rapilly wrote: If I can't boot from a Cdrom written on a fedora, What distro the CD is written on shouldn't matter - provided it is written correctly (you did check the md5sum). Note that some Windows burners `helpfully' pad iso images; thus always giving incorrect md5sum; even for correctly written CDs. is there a good way to install Debian on my SUN ? If no, what shall I do to install Debian on my SUN Judging by the least thread you posted here the problem is that OpenBoot (the firmware; kind of like what the PC's BIOS would be if it was properly designed) can't find the cdrom device. 'cdrom' is usually an alias (like a symlink) for the SCSI cdrom. It's possible the alias is missing or that a hardware change means that it's not in the expected place. Have a look at an OpenBoot reference for how to change the alias or how to specify where in OpenBoot's 'filesystem' the cd drive is. HTH Cheers, - Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sun]debian
Eric Rapilly wrote: If I can't boot from a Cdrom written on a fedora, is there a good way to install Debian on my SUN ? If no, what shall I do to install Debian on my SUN If you can't boot /why/? What version are you trying to boot, on what sort of machine, and what exactly is happening? In extremis I've been able to boot over a LAN when I can't from CD. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]